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New (and less new) RCs - Alphabet Soup

Although it's obviously been around for yonks- MXE. I seem to be reading very conflicting reports on what makes a good dose.

Been away from the RCs for months and I heard it's to be banned soon, so thought I'd get some to test 'er out. I've sifted through quite a bit of info but can't find much of a "near-definitive" answer.
Recommendations would be much appreciated chaps. :)

From what I recall from around the time it was first hitting the scene is that an M-Hole is very hard to reach, so I'm interested in both the low dose wobblies and potential twisting of time and space.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
yeah sorry to cause any concern, i can report that i am alive and well.

Allbeit severely disapointed with new substance, its slightly less jittery and easier on the heart compared to ethyl, (no palpitations) but makes your nose run like fuck. If it was any good you'd have seen me making a long post in the 'what are you litening to thread'. But I dont feel like listening to music atall + got no 'enhancement' of porn/hornyness atall.

Ive just been firing off a few job applications hoping that ive done enough to comply with their requirments when i sign on tomorrow. This substance is a big FAIL imo, I'm glad i only ordered 250mg. I might as well have had a strong cup of coffee really for all the good that its done me. I guess i was expecting too much, perhaps it'll work ok as a low dose functional stim. But there's no fireworks or anything elecrtifying to be found here.
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You knew it was going to be shite, didn't you? :D
 
Argh, anotherone bite le dust eh.
Damn, looks like we ll jist have to resort to snorting caffeinne...
 
Does anyone know of an RC that mimics coke in any way? Also, do vendors still market things in the same way as they did with Meph aka Plant Food?

A bar by me apparently has this drug knocking around in it and its referred to as Fish Tank Cleaner :? I dont know if someones just made that name up or what the deal is but thats what ive heard..

My dead friends now dead sister was in this bar when she collapsed and im wondering if this has anything to do with it? It could be completely unrelated but its fairly rare young people just drop down dead.. The police are treating is as suspicious, which it is..
 
mydrugbuddy said:
I suppose i am noticeably sped up, doing everything 4 times quicker than normal, but feel a bit scatty with it, cant settle on any one thing, there's no nice clean calm intense focus feeling like you can get with decent stims. I had 3 small lines over the space of 3 hours or so.
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How would you compare it to the other stims legally available in the UK? I don't buy stims that often (very occasionally for help with motivation, prefer other drugs for parties/raves etc) so what I have tends to last a while, just finished the last of the eph I bought earlier this year and considering checking this out when I order something for replacement. I like eph for the added motivation and focus but dislike the jitteriness and anxiety that can come from high doses/repeated doses. Will probs either get this or MPA which isn't spectacular but does the job...
 
ScotchMist said:
Does anyone know of an RC that mimics coke in any way? Also, do vendors still market things in the same way as they did with Meph aka Plant Food?

A bar by me apparently has this drug knocking around in it and its referred to as Fish Tank Cleaner :? I dont know if someones just made that name up or what the deal is but thats what ive heard..

My dead friends now dead sister was in this bar when she collapsed and im wondering if this has anything to do with it? It could be completely unrelated but its fairly rare young people just drop down dead.. The police are treating is as suspicious, which it is..
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Also (sorry to double post just saw this) there are some sites selling the Phenmetrazine analogue mixed with benzocaine/lidocaine and 2AI as a branded product, the one I know sells it as Phenzacaine so I presume there's at least slight similarities to coke with the mix? Ethylphenidate or MPA mixed with numbing agents are common as well. Very sorry to hear about your friend's sister, I hope you're okay.
 
StreetHalo91 said:
How would you compare it to the other stims legally available in the UK? I don't buy stims that often (very occasionally for help with motivation, prefer other drugs for parties/raves etc) so what I have tends to last a while, just finished the last of the eph I bought earlier this year and considering checking this out when I order something for replacement. I like eph for the added motivation and focus but dislike the jitteriness and anxiety that can come from high doses/repeated doses. Will probs either get this or MPA which isn't spectacular but does the job...
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not even as good as ethyl.:\
 
StreetHalo91 said:
Also (sorry to double post just saw this) there are some sites selling the Phenmetrazine analogue mixed with benzocaine/lidocaine and 2AI as a branded product, the one I know sells it as Phenzacaine so I presume there's at least slight similarities to coke with the mix? Ethylphenidate or MPA mixed with numbing agents are common as well. Very sorry to hear about your friend's sister, I hope you're okay.
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Cheers Halo..

Yeah, im ok.. Just trying to find out what happened to her :? Cant imagine what that family are going through, it was only a couple of years ago my mate died, now his sister.. Tragic :(
 
DrGreenthumb said:
Likely GBL.
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I very much doubt any high street vendor would risk selling GBL. It's almost certainly one of the gazillion and two random mixtures of random white powders with snazzy packaging.

There's not really anything currently on sale which is anything like cocaine but less well-informed folk would probably describe any stimulating white powder as being "like coke". Could be anything to be honest.
 
I did think that after i posted it, about it mimicking cocaines effects.. Most folk these days havent a clue what real coke is like anyway, especially the yoofs.. If its a white powder, stimulates you and the guy who sold it you said it was coke.... it is coke:?

Id imagine the toxicology report will be out soon and ill find out..

By the sounds of it there is plenty of people round by me doing it, so it sounds like she may of had an underlying issue.
 
Shambles said:
I very much doubt any high street vendor would risk selling GBL. It's almost certainly one of the gazillion and two random mixtures of random white powders with snazzy packaging.

There's not really anything currently on sale which is anything like cocaine but less well-informed folk would probably describe any stimulating white powder as being "like coke". Could be anything to be honest.
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It's totally legal to sell it as cleaning fluid & no high street vendor was mentioned. 'Alloy wheel cleaner' , 'Fish tank cleaner', etc, are common names for GBL. Not heard of any other drug sold as fish tank cleaner.

As for the one "like coke", there's a branded rc mix called synthacaine, could be any stimulating white powder cut with a numbing agent, MPA & 2AI seems one of the common ones. It's a mix of whatever RC stims they have overstock of, cut with lidocaine and/or benzocaine.
 
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DrGreenthumb said:
It's totally legal to sell it as cleaning fluid & no high street vendor was mentioned. 'Alloy wheel cleaner' , 'Fish tank cleaner', etc, are common names for GBL. Not heard of any other drug sold as fish tank cleaner.
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I was under the impression that GBL was completely banned in the UK, whether you intended to use it for cleaning your wheels, fish tank, or for adding 1ml to a glass of drinkable liquid and downing it:?
 
mydrugbuddy said:
I was under the impression that GBL was completely banned in the UK, whether you intended to use it for cleaning your wheels, fish tank, or for adding 1ml to a glass of drinkable liquid and downing it:?
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AFAIK it's only banned for that last purpose, but it's fine for cleaning your fish tank or alloy wheels with...

wikipedia said:
United Kingdom: Because of their legitimate uses, regulation 4B of the 2001 regulations makes it lawful to import, export, produce, supply, offer to supply or possess GBL and 1,4-BD. Except where a person does so knowing or believing that they will be used for the purpose of human ingestion.[4][27]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Butyrolactone
 
The implication was that this was a high street vendor or headshop as the person was buying branded RCs offline. I don't know of many other types of establishment that sell snazzy-looking packages of white mystery powder with stupid names and those are not the type of places that would have a hope of getting away with sellilng "Alloy Cleaner".
 
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