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Neo-Doves test results

There's lots of products that say no ingredients now and its getting really shit house. Probably going to end up more enurotoxic than a single dose of 80mg of MDMA.
 
so has anybody had any exceptional, memorable moments on these things?
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Personally I love them, but on one condition: benzos required. If I've been up all night smoking speed I know I wont be able to sleep anytime soon but I'm happy to just chill out, watch tv and just relax. Spirits, sub cocas or neo doves it doesn't matter, once the euphoria wears off its like 4 hours of hell where nothing is enjoyable.

But besides that I've had some awesome times on them, because I normally take stuff I can rely on for big nights (pills, speed etc) I usually leave my Israeli drugs for just plain random nights (or days), much like yours in terms of pure euphoria would be coming home from a nice dinner all dressed up in a hired suit, sniffed a few lines, put on the ipod and just wandering around melb till the sun came up :) gotta order more before they end (as they no doubt will).
 
Hopefully they will not end for a while time to stock up.
but people have been thinkin this since the start of the year.
i find these things go well with meth and e.
going to try more combos soon. yeah can stay up all weekend with these.
hope i haven't already loss the magic. had over 30 mixed.
found some are more potent than others andweight different.
i am going to get order more powder its seems alot cheaper and more reliable.
these things are great for the price.
what is NZ up with neo and like drugs?
 
Preliminary findings indicate there is one compound, maybe more in at least one of these products, which could cause health problems. This is due to the possibility of it being metabolised into a toxin which is known to accumulate in the body.

Keep in mind these are preliminary findings only at this stage. I feel however, that to exercise good HR, we need to view these products as potentially dangerous unless results are forthcoming that indicate otherwise.

I have not relayed this information until now merely because the results aren't yet conclusive in regards to all compounds that may be present. However, due to the increasing popularity of these products, I feel it's prudent to reveal these concerns. I would rather have to withdraw such a comment later than feel something should have been said when we became aware of this.

When conclusive results are known, they will be released along with anything that can be dug up on the pharmacology/ toxicology of these compounds. Until that time, I'd advise a strong HR approach, and to exercise that, you either need to know what you're dealing with and develop a strategy that reduces potential harms, or abstain completely.
 
Is there word on that this toxin may be?

There are now re-sellers popping up for this company, also out of Israeli, or a completely different company/chemicals, it's getting a bit much.
 
Thanks for the heads up p_d, I had been thinking about ordering some more of these but it seems steering away from them until more is known would be the best approach.
 
Any idea on when conclusive results will be known?
PS thanks for the heads up :)
 
anyone ordered the powders and tried them?

there is also similar sites to sellin simlar products as well anyone tried any other different sites.

i think the caps are a bit dodge but looks like its a bit cheaper to get caps.
think i going with powder
so far the whole neo range seems to be very well tolerated.
no bad reports from my friends yet?
i hope when we get the test results i will be for all the pills not just neo's
the sub c ones keep u up from long time.
also anyone know the dose with the powder?

[EDIT: No questions or discussion about ordering/packaging please. hoptis]
 
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Splatt said:
If you were on the money J_S, look at a bunch of other things it could be..


BK-2C-TFM (legal worldwide?) - 1-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-aminoethanone
BK-DOTFM (legal worldwide?) - 1-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-aminopropan-1-one
DOTFM - 1-(2,5-Dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-aminopropane
3-hydroxyphenethylamine - 1-(3-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-aminoethane
3-methoxyphenethylamine - 1-(3-Methoxyphenyl)-2-aminoethane
4-hydroxyphenethylamine - 1-(4-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-aminoethane
4-methoxyphenethylamine (MAO A+B inhibitor, maybe active?) - 1-(4-Methoxyphenyl)-2-aminoethane
N-benzyl-2C-B - 2-Benzylamino-1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-ethane
n-methyl-BK-DOTFM (probably not very active, worldwide legal?) - 2-Methylamino-1-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)propan-1-one
n-methyl-BK-3,4-dihydroxyamphetamine - 2-Methylamino-1-(3,4-dihydroxyphenyl)propan-1-one hydrochloride
n-(4-chlorobenzoyl)-4-hydroxyphenethylamine - N-(4-Chlorobenzoyl)-1-(4-hydroxyphenyl)-2-aminoethane
N-Acetyl phenyl-2-aminoethane
N-Benzyl phenyl-2-aminoethane
n-benzyl-2C-TFM - N-Benzyl-1-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-aminoethane
n-benzyl-DOTFM - N-Benzyl-1-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-methylaminopropane
n-benzyl-2,5-DMA - N-Benzyl-1-(2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-2-aminopropane
n-benzyl-4-methoxyamphetamine - N-Benzyl-1-(4-methoxyphenyl)-2-aminopropane
n-ethyl-4-methoxyamphetamine - N-ethyl-1-(4-methoxyphenyl)-2-aminopropane
2C-TFM - 1-(2,5-Dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-aminoethane


Some may be active, at low or high doses, some may not even be active above, but active when put all together..

This is just a small list of stuff that can be synthed or sourced very cheapily and easily. Who knows WTF is in these things.
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I would love to try bk-2c-tfm. 2c-tfm was one of my favorites, its up there with 4-ho-mipt and 2c-e in my mind. 2c-tfe (1-(2,5-Dimethoxy-4-trifluoroethylphenyl)-2-aminoethane sounds damn good to me as well. I hope the source didnt just stick a benzyl group to pma:\
 
tadfish said:
anyone ordered the powders and tried them?

there is also similar sites to sellin simlar products as well anyone tried any other different sites.

i think the caps are a bit dodgey and a rip off
think i going with powder
so far the whole neo range seems to be very well tolerated.
no bad reports from my friends yet?
i hope when we get the test results i will be for all the pills not just neo's
the sub c ones keep u up from long time.
also anyone know the dose with the powder?
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Hi

Just be aware with the powder that you are not paying to get the actual chemicals, what you get is a blend of the active ingredients with all the vitamins and amino acids and so on blended together.

This means that if you wanted to snort the equivalent of two capsules worth, that you are going to have to put half a gram of vitamins and crap up your nose.

When I ordered powder for neo-doves this is what I got and when I asked what the dose was I was told 4 caps to the gram, so a two cap dose is half a gram of powder up the nose.

(not sure which emoticon to use for that experience - )
 
Hopefully they will not end for a while time to stock up.
but people have been thinkin this since the start of the year.
i find these things go well with meth and e.
going to try more combos soon. yeah can stay up all weekend with these.
hope i haven't already loss the magic. had over 30 mixed.

found some are more potent than others and weight different. Like i had a neo one night after having the weekend before and it was much stronger. neo's seem to so far be like mdma as you up the dose.

i am going to get order more powder it doesn't seem alot cheaper but maybe more reliable.
these things are great for the price.
what is NZ up with neo and like drugs?
been told you can have like 2 g in a night; this shouldn't kill you. i don't know but.
but i have had alot of RC's and drug that are well tolerated and don't poison u or do serious damage that have felt like it is worse for the body. So far it seems like you can munch down a fair few without any worsing side effects. u know some drugs too much = nausea, twiches, aches and sore muscles etc.
thats a nice list of chems u got there Splatt
 
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theyre not what I have but some of a very short list that could be used to mix into party pills that say no piperazines or ephedra, legal etc..
 
phase_dancer said:
Preliminary findings indicate there is one compound, maybe more in at least one of these products, which could cause health problems. This is due to the possibility of it being metabolised into a toxin which is known to accumulate in the body.
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does this mean that even if it is toxic, you would still need a fair bit of it in your body for it to be a real issue?

i'm not really sure about what a 'toxin' is or what it does, or what qualifies it as 'dangerous'. could someone please explain?

just getting a bit worried, as i've consumed quite a lot of this over the past few months, roughly 30 - 40 caps worth. :\
 
Hope we get some a chance to buy some of those chems some time. Gee i wish the US didn't go after all those research company's online and stop the trade with a world policing way.
we can at least hope maybe some NZ company looking to do what they did with piperazines start synth some chems up like neo and analogs. might be a lot of chems that are as good or better than neo range.
2c-tfm is that legal?
I really hope we get some more psychedelic ones
 
does this mean that even if it is toxic, you would still need a fair bit of it in your body for it to be a real issue?

i'm not really sure about what a 'toxin' is or what it does, or what qualifies it as 'dangerous'. could someone please explain?

just getting a bit worried, as i've consumed quite a lot of this over the past few months, roughly 30 - 40 caps worth.
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Please understands that until final results are forthcoming I cannot answer your questions with any degree of certainty. What I will say is that the toxic nature of this group of compounds is still somewhat controversial, although some variations are likely to be much more toxic and have been associated with reproductive endocrine disorders in animals and humans. Some are also suspected of causing cellular resistance to insulin which may result in type II diabetes. There has also been some concern that structural variations (not associated with these products) may be human carcinogens as one variation caused cancer in rats and mice when they were fed large amounts over 2 years.


What we don't know as yet is how much of the compound is present i.e. a trace or an amount relative to concentration of the active. At the end of the day, there may be little risk, but until final results are known I'd suggest erring on the side of caution.
 
Friends seem to think that the Spirits are the winners so far out of the SC/ND/Spirits

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