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Neo-Doves test results

doooofus -

For the SCs I had one, followed by another an hour later. As previously posted they knocked me for 6, and gave scary sexual powers and a great rush.

The Nds I have had one, and then an SC later... NDs were cool too.

The Spirits same dose as SCs.

These symptoms are mild, and are what you might find if you are sensitive to substances and bodily changes like myself... Most people probably wouldn't notice them too much.
 
I found that double dropping the ND's did not dilate my pupils much at all. The jaw clenching was also very mild. It's interesting that it was so different for '3 to the 3'. Mind you, I have not tried the SC's yet and am a bit scared to take any more of either at this stage.
 
Morissey said:
I found that double dropping the ND's did not dilate my pupils much at all. The jaw clenching was also very mild. It's interesting that it was so different for '3 to the 3'. Mind you, I have not tried the SC's yet and am a bit scared to take any more of either at this stage.

The clenching was worse with the SCs to be honest. The NDs are quite mild as far as after effects. Becuase I have tried three diff products in the space of a few weeks my info is a little less specific, more broadly focused on the (company name's) range.

I think that most regular users of MDMA would find the NDs to be more like 1/2 a clean pill, and perhaps find them a little weak... I am in my 30s so for me it is a good compromise. I'm not prepared to fuck up a whole week from one big night very often these days...
 
3 to the 3 said:
I think that most regular users of MDMA would find the NDs to be more like 1/2 a clean pill, and perhaps find them a little weak... I am in my 30s so for me it is a good compromise. I'm not prepared to fuck up a whole week from one big night very often these days...

Exactly my thoughts.
 
On what grounds could a product like this be made illegal. excuse my ignorance
I hope its not the ''scary sexual powers" that get these banned8o
 
On what grounds could a product like this be made illegal

Take your pick.

Does it produce an effect similar to an illicit drug? (yes if it gets you high it will be considered undesirable by definition).

If it structurally similar to an already scheduled product?

Is it abusable?

It may be toxic or produce unwanted affects

It may have no medical value (made illegal rather than just regulated)

Will it be considered untested? i.e. no clinical trials have been carried out in Australia.
 
^ I think the laws in relation to banning of products are absurd.

I believe enough thorough testing and a proven fact that something is unfit for human consumption should be the only grounds for prohibition, that and undesirable effects (nausea, sickness, psychosis etc.) - or proven long term damage.
 
Just adding my feedback as promised
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On Saturday night I consumed two of the neo-doves. I'd just come off a 6 week break from drinking/drugs. Had a bit to drink the night before, but had a reasonable amount of sleep. The setting was a house party of around 30+ people.

After reading the experiences here and on the company's website, I decided to take the two together, so this happened at 10.30pm. Within about 30 minutes I could feel it coming on. The next 45 - 60 min was the peak of it. I felt more euphoric than I have on a pill in a long time, but probably less of a body load. No urge to dance ( although there was someone djing some pretty funky tunes), but I rarely dance on MDMA anyway. Felt quite animated and uninhibited in conversation with several close friends, just sitting on the couch. Touch also felt nice - was just tracing patterns on a friends back. I didn't feel much like hugging, or touch that was not initiated by me.

After that, it sort of died down to a pleasant feeling that lasted til around 2am or so. During that time, I actually felt a little more heavy and noticed that I'd been tensing my muscles a little. Didn't notice too much jaw clenching, though I don't do it all that much on MDMA either. During that part of the night, I felt less like socialising and spent a lot of time just lying on the couch listening to the music. I could feel mild after effects for another few hours... felt a little sketchy, but not overwhelmingly so. Got to about 6am and the party was dying out. I wasn't really sure whether I'd be able to sleep comfortably (especially not being in my own bed) so had half a xanax. I ended up sleeping all day without a problem and felt 100% when I woke up around 4pm in the afternoon... surprisingly clear-headed. Actually, I was pretty amazed that I slept that well, as I wouldn't normally after pills. I could eat with no problems too. Can't really comment on the after effects in the following days, as other things were consumed on the sunday night
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It's been a long time since I've just left the night at one pill... I would normally have 2 - 2.5, topping up as the peak starts to die off, so it's a bit hard to compare to this experience. I'd probably say it's comparable to at least a medium strength single MDMA pill. If I get them again, I'd probably want to have the two to start and top up with one more at maybe the 1 - 1.5hr mark. I'd really, really like to know what's in them though so I'm feeling a bit cautious about ordering any more. Still yet to try the SCs and Spirits that came in my mix pack.
 
From Vic:

Mate placed order over 2 weeks ago for us, used special order and orded ND & SC2 finally got into Sydney Australia today at 2:54PM using EMS post and this is what has happened:

The EMS item has been held in customs in AUSTRALIA since 07/06/2007. Notice was sent to the addressee. For additional information regarding the EMS item, please call customer relations at 02-6290079


Looks like i dont get to try any...
 
Waiting for the letter i guess to see what it say's. If Customs has held them then we will get intouch with the supplyer to see why it got held when they state that these are legal in Australia...
 
Would appreciate if you keep us updated the_rabbi, either what the customs letter says or if you guys call the number what you're told.

From my understanding, in the short history of these things, only a small number have been taken by customs and it was during a short period where the supplier used labelling that immediately set customs off, since that was addressed maybe a month or so ago I haven't heard anything else about mail confiscations. If customs have changed their approach to these things I'm sure many people will want to know.
 
yeah mate pls keep us posted thanks !!!

it will be interesting to know why yours got held while others get through easy .
 
Cos they're pricks. I've been hearing from a big vitamen supply chain store, that their bulk orders for MSM and other stuff are being held, just out of suspicion, and if they want it they have to get it tested which costs money, then get it back costing more money.
 
I had one batch seized. a pack of 50 NDs. The packages were actually two sepparate packages of products from the company, one was SC an the other ND, both inspected by customs, and only one was seized.

The company promptly resent my items, but to my dismay when it arrived, it was SC instead of the ND that i had seized, i was very upset - as SC really didn't do all that much for me at all :(

I actually had quite alot of communication with the main customer service rep from the company over IM. Thus the labeling was changed to prevent any further confiscations.
 
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Well i got mine in melbourne today, with a nice little "inspected by customs" sticker on them. No pills were missing.
But got the greatest surprise of my life when i found 2 packages, opened the first and counted 18 just what i ordered, looked at the second package that looked identical to the other and a huge smile came on from ear to ear.
Opened it up and wow another 18!!
Wooohooo!!
Must have sent the same order twice! I aint complaining.
 
Quite a reasonable munt from the 2 Neo Doves. Like a mid-strength bickie. No eye rolls.. just a pleasant feeling, talking heaps, jaw jitters, nice rushes... very pleasant - nice buzz.

Will be buying more.

Edit: 3.5hrs later - effects wearing off. - These really are quite good, real munt feeling but able to function normally without your eyeballs going north.

Just had another 2.
 
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