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Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 2.0

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Can I ask an off topic question...... how am I a good contributor to this site? I agree I used to be but I feel like ive lost it so id really like to know what areas im good at contributing towards as I used to be so intelligent but the drugs and changed me so much.
 
Oh shit. I had a mate who was on meth once who told me to visit because he had some of what I like. Man, when I got there, he took literally an hour to find it. I was sick as fuck, sweating, shaking, the lot. He was trying to just talk like I was fine. I couldn't even get the word in that I was too sick to give a shit about his midnight internet game antics, and he wasn't picking up on the vibes. I had to, after 20 minutes or so, just flat out say "I'm really fucking sick man, can you find that shit you said you had, the reason why I'm here?", and he had completely forgot about it. He knew he was looking for something, while talking to me, but he'd forgotten what.

Fuck I hate it when meth binges turn normal people into complete imbeciles.

Yeah sometimes you just gotta tell them straight! I never had a problem with paranoia and I used heavily on and off for 10 years ( still have all my pearly white teeth thank the Lord for that! ) but one time I threatened to kill some older dyke bitch who fucked up and tried selling me some Meth that was cut with drywall. her friends ratted her out and warned me not to buy anymore of her shit.. which was a damn shame because she had good shit and then she and her girlfriends would get together and do a little too much and think of ways to fuck us all over! I hated that cunt man.. bitch that I was too much of a pretty boy to be straight.. fuck you whore! Just because I take care of myself doesn't mean I'm gay.. damn I seriously still think about killing her sometimes!
 
The fact that you care enough to be concerned about being a good contributed is a pretty good indicator.

^ this.
Don't be so hard on yourself, Ketaman.
You don't stir shit, or get caught up in bickering, you have wide experience and even if you fuck up sometimes - who doesn't?
You have been around long enough to know the difference between a troubled soul and a nuisance poster. Having said that, serious depression - and addiction - really fucks with your perception of self worth.
Be well, k-man.
 
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I don't know why im here intensely reading page after page. Such a trigger, I cannot convince myself life is better this way. Im almost 2 months off. Stay safe everyone.
 
Ket - I am the prime example of a nuisance poster lately ;-) You are not :-)

Questions - How long is it 'safe' to go without food? And whats the longest you personally have gone? Just curious.
 
Ket - I am the prime example of a nuisance poster lately ;-) You are not :-)

Questions - How long is it 'safe' to go without food? And whats the longest you personally have gone? Just curious.

Safe? There's a lot of variables there, but all other things being well (healthy, good weight, lots of water) - I think most people can fairly 'safely' go a week or more without eating. Not pleasant though.

Very early into my drug abuse I learn't the value of forcing myself to eat at least one decent meal a day. That said - due to chronic stomach issues, there has been times (on opiates, not meth) when due to vomiting I've gone 4+ days without eating or being able to keep down water, fucking awful - last time landed me in hospital and prep'd for a blood transfusion; luckily the internal bleeding (from vomiting) stopped just in time and I got to keep my own blood.
 
Food lasts about 8 hours (give or take)
After about 3 days your body starts to convert a small amount of muscle into energy, if you do strength training you can stop this.
After a few more days your body will rely solely on fat.

There are risks of cardiac problems. If you're not getting the electrolytes/vitamins/minerals/potassium

Another risk from not eating for extended periods is the first feed (lactic acidosis can be lethal)

So long as you keep the times short (nothing over a week) you won't have any major problems (unless you're otherwise unhealthy)

You could not eat for months with medical supervision. At the same time, eating at least once every 48 hours would be better than anything longer.
(i'm not so sure 3 meals a day is all that healthy, i've been going on a 2 hour feeding period [per day] for over a month and I feel better when I'm not eating)
 
Not eating during a stimulant binge greatly increases the severity of the side-effects, after effects and general harm associated with methamphetamine consumption. Depletion of vital minerals and nutrients cause a lot of the health problems associated with heavy stimulant use, especially in combination with dehydration and sleep deprivation.

You know that whole "faces of meth" bullshit (and the other, recently released one)?
To me, those people look malnourished (and dehydrated) as much as anything else.
Yeah, speed can eliminate your appetite - but that doesn't mean you don't still need to eat. It doesn't have to be a huge 3-course meal, or anything that sits too heavily in your stomach.

Fruit and nuts are very good sources of the kinds of nutrients that your body needs to maintain good health, especially with the stresses amphetamine put on the body. Making an effort to consume some of these sorts of vitamin/mineral/protein rich foods will decrease the negative physical impact meth will have on your body.
Certainly in my experience, the days following stim use are be less unpleasant if you've eaten while high; even if you have no appetite.
Eating might not appeal, but so long as you don't eat complete shit (I'd avoid anything too fatty, personally) it shouldn't be too difficult, especially if you drink plenty of water at the same time, if a dry mouth makes eating/swallowing difficult.

My understanding is that not eating can increase the potential damage to internal organs such as your kidneys and liver as well, though I'm not sure if this is medical fact or just something I read somewhere (most likely bluelight...)

I think eating food is far healthier - and better absorbed - than taking vitamin and mineral supplements, as well as presumably being healthier for your kidneys and liver.

This thread from the Neuroscience and Pharmacology subforum is full of extremely well researched and referenced amphetamine harm reduction tips.
 
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My story is I've smoked since mid 2011. The first 6 months I was addicted, trying my best to use everyday. I got over that hump thankfully and ive narrowed my use to when i have a week off work which is every few months or so I'd say... Problem is my next week off is next week and im so aching to get amongst it. I believe I can control my addiction as ive proved for years now I can spread it out to only a few times a year... that isnt my question though... I worry enough to wonder if its all worth it? after 24 hours im over it bad and just sick for days. But those 24 hours... mannn its tempting.
 
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Cheers for the food advice :-)

Concerned for a friend of mine who has tingling hot arm 22 hrs after last dose normal? 3 or 4 doses were had over about 19hrs (up to 3 points all together) new iv user. Never had that much in that time. Not really alot though right? That would have lasted 2-3 days smoking it though. Time between shots were much further apart. Days at least :-/ The last shot gave a huge rush, in throat etc. Never had that much rush before. Never had a 3rd shot in that time.

Concerned - could her arm actually be burning and tingling or could it be in her head? Is this the beggining of physical addiction rather than mental? Shes been semi regulary using for 4-5mths mostly smoking. Has had 10 shots total.

Has had bongs and red wine since last dose to help sleep. Still wide awake. Kinda still high but not really but lots of side affects still experiencing mostly tougue chewing/sucking (hasnt chewed it that bad for awhile) dry mouth, eyes still big, tired and yawning lots. Hasnt been able to sleep for hours. Really wants to. More red wine maybe?

Does iv make it last longer in system? As in when should she expect to be able to sleep? She has work in 10hrs. Last dose nearly 24hrs ago. Hot arm. Cant sleep. Advice please. Pointed threads etc you know, so i can point them to her o_O
 
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In my experience, iv tends to build up for longer periods than smoking. So, you think you are not as high as you are, and think that you are due for another shot, when in reality, you are building on the body's baseload , and so, yea, it will take longer to flush it for the system, and this is what it sounds like here.
Depending on tolerance and strength, three points may take a day or three to wind down. That's the thing about it, is that one tends to measure quantities more so than with piping and they may have been using heaps less over that period in a pipe than they thought.
 
Whats the safest and the max safest amount you should have in a dose and in a 24 hr time frame for example? It is poison after all so just wondering. Guess it depends on the person and their experience and tolerance?

Worried about the hot arm tingling thing though.
 
If it's been 24 hours since her last shot she's not going to need any attention.
Get a hypnotic into her and encourage her not to go so hard.

Alcohol is a poison which will make her worse. She doesn't need further dehydration, mineral/electrolyte imbalance, and a hangover..

Her best medicines right now are sleep, nutrients, and hydration.
 
But if you havnt had any and are about to whats the maximum you should have in a 24 hr period? How much at most in one shot? How many shots is too many etc?
 
Monitor your heart rate (easiest way to do this is count your pulse for 20 or 30 seconds, and multiplying that by 2 or 3 respectively) if it is erratic or strenuously abnormal you're now taking a risk (tightness in the chest is also obvious, but I will say it anyway), blood pressure, rate of breathing (>25 breathes a minute is bad.)
Things like abnormal body temperature, tremors or intense twitching/spasms, sore muscles, and trouble urinating are obvious signs you've overdone it.

The only way for you to answer your question is to start low, go slow and find your comfortable spot.
Not the only way really, but the smartest.
 
swallowing meth in a capsule not only is less harmful but works sooo much better.

me personally , kicked it 6 months ago, completely. I've had an adderall script my whole life though
 
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