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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only

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WOLTERP said:
i'm trying to quit or at least use only rarely. Only problem is I have a girlfriend who always wants to do it and I simply loose my willpower when i'm around her. She is constantly begging me to do it with her, cries when i don't and I feel weak because i let it get the better of me every time. I'm constantly breaking promises with myself about not using, and I can generally keep these promises when I'm not around her.
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mate, harsh as it sounds, u cant let a girl b the reason u go on being a slave to a drug
not a drug that - as gorgoroth said quite truthfully - can and will cripple or kill u
and meth takes u down fast
it only took 8 yrs and i was so close to death i had my parents writing out funeral plans
i cudnt get out of bed without at least 1/2G
towards the very end my hands shook so bad that i cud no longer inject and had to go back to the pipe - and heres the worst bit.....my mum had to load the pipe for me in the mornings cos i was too shaky to load the straw
dont let that b u
any of u
if u hav any paraphernalia, throw it out
get help
go to any lengths (rehab, counselling, 12-step programs)
meth = death
 
Well...I just smashed my pipe. Now the hard part... flushing the shit down the toilet.... Is it even a good idea necessarily to flush it? I feel like a relapse is possible whether or not I have the stuff, and that if I do relapse, it's less risky to go out and buy it and risking getting arrested. I also have a feeling of empowerment over the shit when i know it's around yet i remain strong in face of it. I just don't know how to go about this whole process...
 
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Well...I just smashed my pipe. Now the hard part... flushing the shit down the toilet.... Is it even a good idea necessarily to flush it? I feel like a relapse is possible whether or not I have the stuff, and that if I do relapse, it's less risky to go out and buy it and risking getting arrested. I also have a feeling of empowerment over the shit when i know it's around yet i remain strong in face of it. I just don't know how to go about this whole process...
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Don't even think about it, just do it without thinking, otherwise you won't be able to flush the speed fast (no pun intended) enough.
 
ahh it's so hard to do flush it... it's almost easier to have it and not do any than it is to flush it.....
 
good job man! I'm so proud of you, you did something that's EXTREMELY hard to do.
if you need anything, PLEASE pm me! I CAN help you beat this.
 
thanks gogoroth :)
i know im better than the meth, heck everyone is better than the meth! a chapter in my life is coming to an end, its a scary thought but i cant do this to myself anymore, my kidneys and bladder are absolutely fucked up..
ive gotten to the point where im only doing it for the last few days before i quit..im waiting for medical advice b4 i quit 'cos I have depression & general anxiety disorder im paranoid coming off them cold turkey and freaking myself out cos i dont have any medical support and going back to it..i just think it'll ease my mind..
im thinking of starting a blog on this starting from day 1 of my detox..this will start next tues in the blog section 4 anybody who wants 2 follow my progress..if u dont i dont mind its more for me to get things out and possibly get some advice etc. i thought it might motivate me more.
but u better read it guys, hahaha only kidding :) im sure theres more interestin things to read than about me on here lmao :)
its so inspiring to hear the stories of others who have quit on here - makes me more determind to join the "ex-meth heads" group hehe, got a little one going here hey?
i told my mum in a rare occasion of communication that im quitting..she rolled her eyes and said "how long is that gonna last". blah, i'll show her!
WOLTERP if your girlfriend is crying about it she obviously has a problem with it..if you're crying 'cos your boyfriend doesn't have meth then thats more than likely leading into an addiction..not certain but that aint a good sign..
if it continues ..just dont let her bring u down and maybe reconsider your choice in partners..just talk to her say you dont want to do it i guess, but dont let her do that that's really fucked up considering you're only doing something good for your body and soul, take it from me!
and wow congrats on flushing it..i dont think i could ever do that..that takes willpower!!!!
as that poem goes, more precious than diamonds
if anyone hasnt read that poem look up 'meth poem' it should be the only one, bloody scary shit, and very true, makes me cry when i read it. once a younger girl asked me for a puff and i read it to her, she quickly changed her mind about the puff!
that poem was actually the thing that made me realise i had a problem..my friend sent it to me and i cried for hours and i KNEW i had to do something about it or else i'd end up like that empty and alone..
anyway, have a good day everyone :D love love! you're all fantastic :)
 
Naw I read it, glad to see yer in a good mood claire ! :)
I get sooo happy when people get off the tweak!
add me to msn if u got it, if you ever feel like relapsing pm me or msn me, that's what I did when I am fiend meth, I talk to BL people and it works!
 
Ya I'm starting a blog thingo for that reason, see if anyone can give me any ideas/tips
Ill prob miss a day or two being in bed sleeping though
I'm angry at myself for starting in the first place, ah well what doesn't kill me only makes me stronger!
I shall be PM'ing lots of people I believe, considerin none of my real life mates who are users seem very interested in getting off it, 99% still deny they have a problem. sigh.
but they will only want help when they realise they need it, no point trying to change their mind .. it'd be like talking to a brick wall whos in denial
 
you can no longer associate with those people if you truly want to get clean, IMO.
It was fucking brutal for me to distance myself from the NFLD thrash scene but it's full of meth and i was using for years when i was in it.
 
yeah i know i've sorted out which ones to keep and which not
they have promised not to discuss their use or use in front of me or any paraphernalia, nothing
plus they have to come ovr here im not going there
'cos some of my best best ever friends are..but i also have clean mates so its all good
i've been getting shitloads of support from both the clean/dirty parties
hahaha dirty.. god im funny :|
 
Thanks so much for the support gorgoroth, claire, and stella, I'm here for any of you if you ever need someone to talk to. I have AIM or your can PM me.

I am already kicking myself for flushing it... uugggh!!$!(!@#*$^&!! It was over a gram!

As for my girlfriend.... She's just as bad as I am. Of course she was all apologies for her behavior as soon as she got high.... seems that is the only time she is rational these days. I told her that if she isn't going to be supportive of my recovery I can't be with her. While she agreed with that statement and said she was willing to do anything to help me stay off it, the fact that she was high at the time undermines her legitimacy in my eyes....I'd like to see her say the same thing when she's craving.

Stella... I forgot to include that I did some right before i flushed it... in fact, that's how I was able to finally flush it. "one last time" right.... I'm dedicated though.
 
WOLTERP watch out for her use, thats def how an addiction starts, progresses slowly(or some others its quite a fast process) .. she will deny having a problem but i suggest talking to her about it, u dont want her getting any deeper into it. it aint glamorous at all. show her this if u havent seen it already...

I destroy homes. I tear families apart.
I take children and that’s just a start.
I’m more valued than diamonds, more precious than gold.
The sorrow I bring is a sight to behold.
If you need me, remember, I’m easily found.
I live all around you, in school and in town.
I live with the rich, I live with the poor.
I live just down the street, and maybe next door.
I’m made in a lab, but not one like you think.
I can be made under the kitchen sink, or in your
Child’s closet, even out in the woods.
If this scares you to death, it certainly should.
I have many names, but there’s one you’ll know best.
I’m sure you’ve heard of me. My name’s Crystal Meth.
My power is awesome. Try me. You’ll see.
But if you do, you may never break free.
Just try me once, I might let you go.
Try me twice and I’ll own your soul.
When I possess you, you’ll steal and you’ll lie.
You’ll do what you have to, just to get high.
The crimes you’ll commit for my narcotic charms
Will be worth the pleasure you’ll feel in my arms.
You’ll lie to your mother, you’ll steal from your dad.
When you see their tear, you must not feel sad.
Just forget your morals, and how you were raised.
I’ll be your conscience. I’ll teach you my ways.
I take kids from parents. I take parents from kids.
I turn people from God. I separate friends.
I’ll take everything from you, even your good looks and
Pride. I’ll be with you always, right by your side.
You’ll give up everything. Your family, your home.
Your money, your friends, you’ll be all alone.
I’ll take and I’ll take till you’ve no more to give.
When I finish with you, you’ll be lucky to live.
If you try me, be warned. THIS IS NOT A GAME.
If I’m given the chance, I’ll drive you insane.
I’ll ravage your body. I’ll control your mind.
I’ll own you completely. Your soul will be MINE.
The nightmares I’ll five you when you’re lying in bed,
And the voices you hear from inside your head.
The shakes, the sweats, and the visions you’ll see.
I want you to know, these are your gifts from me.
By then it’s too late, and you’ll know in your heart,
That you are now mine, and we shall not part.
You’ll regret that you tried me. They always do.
But you came to me. Not I to you.
You knew this would happen. How many times were you told?
But you challenged my power. You chose to be bold.
You could have said “no” and just walked away.
If you could live over, now what would you say?
My power is awesome, as I told you before.
I can take your mother and turn her into a whore.
I’ll be your master, you’ll do as I say,
Even when I tell you to go to your grave.
Now that you’ve met me, what will you do?
Will you try me or not? It’s all up to you.
I can show you more misery than words can tell.
Come, take my hand. Let me lead you to hell.

Scares the fuck outta me, reminds me too much of my life.
 
The amount of cravings I have right now are really fucking awfull.
I'm thinking of just smoking alot of dope and eating some benzos, because I can't take it it's fucking agony.
 
ah well thats to be expected
it shall pass
sure you'll think about it..for a long time..
but its a chapter in your life thats now closed and never to be re-opened
 
I did something dumb tonight (IVd a ritalin) : /
I was in a miserable state and was fiending a powerfull stimulant and used the only thing I had on hand,When I should have used a better coping technique. it had an INSANE kick to it and was very euphoric yet I totally regret it and if i had my time back, never would have done it, iving pills is dangerous and i knew that from the start yet I still did, I guess I had a slip you could call it. but it's not gunna be a full blown relapse.
I will not let this happen again!
 
I'd also like to say to the people that thinks that meth withdrawal is 'easy' because it 'isn't physical' you'd be so wrong haha. The majority of stimulants can be extremely psychologically addicting, inc.meth. But a few have physical withdrawal, INC METH.
The symptoms in my withdrawal have been :
Severe depression
Severe muscle weakness
Lack of energy
Insomnia
Severe craving
SEVERE weight gain
severe mood swings
nausea
lack of motivation to do anything
food cravings
rage
mania
restless extremities
and anxiety.


it's miserable, i haven't been through opiate withdrawal but I know it's fucking horrible but sheesh I can't see it being as bad as meth withdrawal, then again i havent been through it. Temazepam was still the worst to w/d from (5 seizures in 2 weeks :/ )
 
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