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[MEGA] Cannabis Quitting Thread aka I need a break

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Getting close to the end of this bag, going to set a goal of at least another two weeks off.

Going to be starting grad school and gotta save some money. Plus I find that often when I start smoking herb I will soon start to smoke cigarettes as well.

Anyways I do not get many physical withdrawal symptoms (just agitation and a slightly lessened appetite). My main thing is I defiantly notice an effect the day after smoking. As I have aged this has become more noticeable and more of a hinderance.
 
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in what way at all does cannabis affect dopamine?

its not meth, mate

Brain reward cascade' it is pleasurable' hence fires the dopamine reward cascade' just like tobacco and anything you learn from or find pleasurable'
Why do you think it is called "Dope" no because it makes you "Dopey"

Methamphetamine releases dopamine and is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, it increases dopamine by 1200%'
Hence that firing of the brain reward cascade and Meth is the only thing you can get a learning/pleasure reward off of!

One very small hit of JWH 018 and the withdrawal is gone for nearly 3 days' so we can now see of what years of blowing high grade weed does to your brain'
N' I love weed :)))' so it obviousley fulfills my reward cascade and I keep going back for a toke to hit it again' so dopamine plays a very big role in the process of blowing weed'

Bliss!

Blackeye +
 
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I think the counterpoint is, "I don't believe cannabis withdrawl exists, and if it does it has no worse symptoms than say television withdrawls or withdrawl from not masturbating, etc etc" we all enjoy our habits but physical withdrawl is a different thing.

not Heroin withdrawl is much worse therefor you don't know pain.

I fall in between categories, been there done that, its tough to sleep for awhile I guess you could call it slight discomfort? . . . But who knows maybe I was just lucky, and I definitely didnt have no 35 years of daily use...my experience is anectdotal.

I have never even heard an anectdotal experience of someone using anything physically addictive every day for 8 years than stopping and not experiencing withdrawl.....So what about all the people who vouch theyve done it and not experienced w/d?.

Its a toss up in my book.

Idk at any rate best luck to the OP.

:))) Pain off heroin withdrawal lasts 3 days' then you are goosed and freezing for the best part of 2 weeks all in'

Weed withdrawal leaves me freezing cold' goosed and aggitated full of anxiety for 2 weeks plus'

I am no stranger to pain' I took all the shit known' I am well versed in opiate detox' from short acting to methadone and subutex'

Other than being clear of mind' weed withdrawal leaves my body in the same state as short acting opiate withdrawal would after the initial 3 days of pain'
Rushing psychic energies' aggitated' cold' sweating and goosed'

Bliss!

Blackeye +
 
^This argument you guys are having is stupid. It's a matter of opinion, that's all, chill out. Different people have different reactions to different things.
 
I've noticed something pretty common among all of you lovely stoners, you have trouble not smoking dope when it's in your possession. Buy the absolute smallest amount possible (a five buck), and smoke it all in 1 night/day. This really helps stave off habitual use.
 
any 1 else here get bad old sweats and real bad sleeping problems after not smoking ne green for 2 days?
 
:))) Pain off heroin withdrawal lasts 3 days' then you are goosed and freezing for the best part of 2 weeks all in'

Weed withdrawal leaves me freezing cold' goosed and aggitated full of anxiety for 2 weeks plus'

I am no stranger to pain' I took all the shit known' I am well versed in opiate detox' from short acting to methadone and subutex'

Other than being clear of mind' weed withdrawal leaves my body in the same state as short acting opiate withdrawal would after the initial 3 days of pain'
Rushing psychic energies' aggitated' cold' sweating and goosed'

Bliss!

Blackeye +

Have u ever thought that your use and experience and previous withdrawal have attributed to your opiate like withdrawal symptoms?

Cause i sure as fuck do.
 
any 1 else here get bad old sweats and real bad sleeping problems after not smoking ne green for 2 days?

if u smoke alot before bedtime, or for bedtime, then you will DEFAINTLY have issues sleeping if you continue the exact same routine. You need to reset your sleeping patterns, various techniques work, and working out/getting yourself dead tired is one of them. There are many more, including stretching, baths (the cooling down after a bath triggers sleep), teas and and alot more that can be found throughout the internet.

Since MJ is not addictive, your need for MJ comes from physological addiction.

Weed for the most part is about habit and rituals... Learn you triggers, learn your habits, break them, and you will break the hold weed has. Dont smoke to sooth emotional pain, dont smoke to hide problems, dont smoke to cover up indadicies unless u are prepared to work through the consiquences.
 
I've noticed something pretty common among all of you lovely stoners, you have trouble not smoking dope when it's in your possession. Buy the absolute smallest amount possible (a five buck), and smoke it all in 1 night/day. This really helps stave off habitual use.

This is a good point. Self control - reclaim it.

Getting close to the end of this bag, going to set a goal of at least another two weeks off.

Going to be starting grad school and gotta save some money. Plus I find that often when I start smoking herb I will soon start to smoke cigarettes as well.

Anyways I do not get many physical withdrawal symptoms (just agitation and a slightly lessened appetite). My main thing is I defiantly notice an effect the day after smoking. As I have aged this has become more noticeable and more of a hinderance.

I think you are limiting yourself with these 'next bag' thoughts. Think about cutting back on the situations, then cutting back on the bag will come naturally.

Ie. if u like to smoke before doing housework, then do housework and then smoke. If u like to wake n bake, give yourself a 4hour amnesty then bake. Small steps if u are having trouble.
 
I haven't browsed CD much lately, so I just found this thread, but I'm glad I did and just HAVE to bump this. What a great idea :)
I am a very heavy cannabis user. Since my love affair with cannabis began some 7 years ago, I have unfortunately had to take some short, and sometimes not-so-short breaks. It is for myself a very difficult task, and the support I had during these times helped a lot.
I just wanna say to any of you regular cannabis users out there who are currently not using that I wish you all the best and please stay strong. If I could do it, you can do it :)
 
so i just started a break myself after 4/20 so im on my third day being clean. the main changes ive noticed are that i have more energy and am more sociable (i have been in a great mood too). I don't need to smoke yet though before bed would be nice... Though i think a good way to take a break is to set a time limit for yourself and force yourself to stop for that time; you can do it, i smoked minimum three time a day and quit pretty easy. i think the key is to not give yourself excuses and just go cold turkey and not do anything else to replace weed ether. And if worse comes to worse and you slip up just don't do it again.
 
Same here, I quit on 4/20.

My goal is at least 3 months but I'm going to try going for a year (Next 4/20).

I quit because I'm short on cash and I need to find a job, also because I'm still living with my folks and they're not really cool with me doing it(yes it sucks), and tolerance. So far, it sucks. I can't fall asleep easily anymore, can't eat, I get random headaches, nothing is fun anymore, life just seems dull.
 
Recrystallization

I'm sorry if any of the following sounds like half-baked, metaphysical nonsense, but it rings true in my mind. It's relevant to this thread, I assure you :)

Last night I had an epiphany of sorts. For years an idea has been floating around in my mind. Pot, like some other drugs, can interfere with the "thought lattice," a fine structure of thoughts and ideas which we always build up in our minds. It's a kind of crystallization, and drugs like cannabis can cause irregular growth in this structure, leading to disordered thinking. It's like melting a snowflake while it's still growing. If allowed time to grow, a little melting of the crystal can result in new and beautifully unique shapes, but too much melting and you get nothing.

DXM, of all drugs, brought this idea into full light, showing me that the process of crystallization is a real phenomenon. At least it seems real to me. Of course, I've given up on DXM because it's really not a good drug.

So last night, while high on the kind herb, all these ideas came crashing down and I came to realize that I've been melting back the fine lattice too often, never giving myself time to build up bigger structures... and the result? None of my ideas and projects have come to completion, and my dreams are now only half-remembered, shady things, a mere shadow of what my mind is truly capable of. I've been living in a spaced-out, jumpy state and have been getting less and less accomplished. All of this on one hit of pot and three hits of 018 a day.

Cannabis can be a useful tool for getting things flowing, for changing the way I perceive the world and think about things. But too much, and my mind becomes a writhing mass of false starts. I have lots of good ideas, but no ability to carry anything out.

It's time for a break! Maybe the process of crystallization is real, maybe it's not, or maybe it's more like jungle growth. The point I'm trying to make is that there's a building up of thoughts, ideas and personality. It's going on all the time, but some drugs can interfere with it. Some of can use a little more interference, and some of us have had enough. Being a member of the latter category, I'm fortunate enough to realize it!

Not that I'll quit forever, but I'm aiming to quit for as long as it takes to start taking my ideas to completion again. Wish me luck, as I wish all you the same!
 
mecaib good post man. i like the idea of a thought lattice, makes alot of sense to me. thoughts build upon other thoughts. previous thoughts shape current thoughts, and current thoughts will shape your future thoughts. I feel like i've been stuck on the same page for days because of all the pot and alcohol i've been consuming. smoking all day everyday and drinking till i pass out 3-4 days a week has made it hard for me to recall even the events of yesterday. Tired of feeling so reckless and aimless, I want to be able to remember things again.

going to take a week long break and see how i feel, if i decide to keep smoking im going to have to limit myself.

any advice for dealing with the social situation? with the exception of a few, all my friends blaze, and most smoke it up pretty fat. I dont want to stop hanging out with them, but if i keep doing the same shit im not going to change.
 
Mecaib, good luck man!

Mafioso, I'm sort of in the same position as you, pretty much all my friends smoke. What I would recommend is first delete all of your dealers' numbers and tell them to stop contacting you (ie: sending you txts about the new shit they have). You don't have to stop hanging out with your friends that smoke, but just try not to see them for at least a week to help you get your mind off the herb. I heard after about a week or two, it gets a hell of a lot easier and you're much less likely to slip up.

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Good luck to you.
 
Serious, Thanks for the support! I'm trying to fill the void with exercise, which is easier now that the snow is *finally* melting.

Mafioso, I don't have much advice for you. Half the people I communicate with are either smokers or drinkers, so the influence is definitely always there... Just try to take a short break, maybe encourage your friends to do the same. Tell them sobriety is a kind of high, which it is ;)
 
OK, so I'm on Day 3. It feels a bit like the afterglow from a 2nd or 3rd plateau DXM trip! Smoking a cig out under the sun, it felt like the sunlight was shining through my head. A cool experience if you've never had it.

Imagine that you could perceive more of the subconscious processes going on in your brain, with the more important thoughts near the forefront. It's like looking through a dozen or more sheets of transparent cellophane, lit with blessed light. It feels like how consciousness is supposed to be. It's not as pronounced as it has been after coming off DXM in the past, but it's getting close. I wonder how long it will last?
 
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