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LSD Purity and Effects

DrumTripper said:
Wondering about what we all don’t know about . .
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I think it makes logical sense to assume there are others kept quiet still, held back in reserve.

Like 1cP-LSD, which was I believe created at the same time as all the others, kept back as a trump card, and a very clever and useful one at that.

So for us to assume that there are no others already lying in wait which we don't know about would be ignorant I feel. And to think also, by the sounds of it how 1cp LSD sounds to be the pick of the bunch possibly in terms of being most resembling of LSD itself....

So it is not even like the best have been dished up in order necessarily. What is obvious is that 1cp LSD was kept back because of its chemical categorisation and definition differentiation.

Maybe there are some more to be released in time.
 
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Xorkoth said:
Even the 1p/1a/1cP/1b-LSD analogues are pricier than LSD.
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True for the most part, but it depends where and how you shop of course.

I have just ordered 250 from Germany, at £2.16 per 100ug.
My ideal target is 1 penny per microgram, in the just world of which we are so deliberately and cunningly deprived on every level.

I know lsd is available at those sort of prices now.
But also if you you calculated the mean average cost of LSD across the world from all sources and quantities etc I expect price would be at least 2 English pennies per microgram.

If I can take 200-250 ug for about £5, Im pretty happy with that. I would not be happy paying double that and for most people they are paying more for their 1plsd & co.
 
Update on that- the buggers are returning my bank transfer suddenly. Only bitcoin now, I just missed out clearly because they still offered transfer when I ordered and I paid.

I dont have bitcoin, or even any valid ID. Before I placed this (final) order, I was going to go with the new Dutch who are branched from the manufacturers, but even cheaper at literally €2 a pop on 250.

The only reason I didn't is because I contacted them and was informed that they don't ship tracked to the UK. They offered to send in 2 separate shipments, in case of a loss.

So I decided to go with the Germans again who haven't let me down so far and have been sending tracked signed for shipping 1 or 2 days after payment.

Part of my reasoning here was the whole brexit situation with the UK allegedly due to leave the European Union on the 31st of October. But seeing as that has now been delayed until January I have more time I'm so I may go back to the Dutch and accept the two split untracked envelopes.

They told me:

"I understand your concern. There's a reason why we don't ship tracked to the UK. It's also best for the customer as he/she keeps the right of plausible deniability, which is important considering your local restrictions."

All I know is one way or another I'm determined to get my tabs while the opportunity is still there. My gut was telling me not to take it for granted being able to pay by bank transfer and receive products in the UK from the very limited options I have discovered.

Hence my recent stockpiling for future sake.
 
kinkyjohn said:
Probably a dumb question answered earlier on the thread (I did read most of it .. and sorry if it was) .. but given the super low dose range in which LSD is active and assuming LSD is the target, are there actually many analogues / by products that would also be active in that range?

Of course .. you can get a lot on a blotter .. but that's not what I'm asking.
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the activity of LSD isomers will affect a trip even at present ranges of 20 micro grams. These things will block some of the receptors from binding with the full active LSD leading to various effects including body load mental cloudiness. LSD requires careful purification that is time consuming and tedious for bigger batches which means a majority of LSD that people have tried is not the ultra clear LSD-25 magic make you at the level of albert eistein smart for the trip. LSD also many mystical energies involved in synthesis that the universe flows with but this is very complex and beyond anybody understanding but what i say is the truth. LSD batches are routinely blessed during synthesis and rituals and music are played while the first waves of LSD hit the chemists during manufacture taking them on a godhead ultimate LSD trip to the fundmental truths while the chemist channels the alchemical spirit of chemistry to transmuate consciouness to a higher level for all those willing to take the trip.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
the activity of LSD isomers will affect a trip even at present ranges of 20 micro grams. These things will block some of the receptors from binding with the full active LSD leading to various effects including body load mental cloudiness. LSD requires careful purification that is time consuming and tedious for bigger batches which means a majority of LSD that people have tried is not the ultra clear LSD-25 magic make you at the level of albert eistein smart for the trip. LSD also many mystical energies involved in synthesis that the universe flows with but this is very complex and beyond anybody understanding but what i say is the truth. LSD batches are routinely blessed during synthesis and rituals and music are played while the first waves of LSD hit the chemists during manufacture taking them on a godhead ultimate LSD trip to the fundmental truths while the chemist channels the alchemical spirit of chemistry to transmuate consciouness to a higher level for all those willing to take the trip.
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These Dutch chemists making all the homologues, I have a strong feeling about them having genuinely positive intentions for Humanity and running a very clean and honorable business. Intentions are very powerful and never to be underestimated, in relation to what you say here. We take a lot for granted and so much is flying over our heads the entire time.

I like knowing where my tabs have originated, having confidence in the producers, their skill and commitment to making the product perfectly consistent always to keep everybody happy, oh, and get rich no doubt.

They do good prices as well to be fair to them. 1 cent per ug wholesale, 2 cents retail.
 
AutoTripper said:
These Dutch chemists making all the homologues, I have a strong feeling about them having genuinely positive intentions for Humanity and running a very clean and honorable business. Intentions are very powerful and never to be underestimated, in relation to what you say here. We take a lot for granted and so much is flying over our heads the entire time.

I like knowing where my tabs have originated, having confidence in the producers, their skill and commitment to making the product perfectly consistent always to keep everybody happy, oh, and get rich no doubt.

They do good prices as well to be fair to them. 1 cent per ug wholesale, 2 cents retail.
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The people who synthesize such psychedelics are extremely smart with phds in chemistry from some of the top European universities. Drug use in rampant in alot of chemists daily life as the stress of the job takes it toll. LSD is usually mentioned in most undergrad final year organic chemistry classes as a example of certain indole structures. and is in most of the best organic chemistry textbooks. A chemist who makes psychedelics was born into it it was their desitny that alchemical spirit possesses them to save the world with psychedelics and make a hell alot of money aswell.
 
How an end product is sourced makes all the difference. You have to consider that isomerically a molecule could take infinite forms which would affect the way it interacts with neuronal receptors.

I have an unnatural ability to feel the slight variations in drugs. I can recall the many, many different gel tabs, blotters, liquid and xtal over the years, all which had curious idiosyncrasies which separated that general feel.

Once again, the materials used play an integral role in how the final product will interact with its user. It is haphazard to state that difference in batches/cooks to placebo, dosage, setting or age. The brain knows, and that plays out for the super-observatory-types to non-discriminate-users.

There are entire compendiums on this site with myriad users detailing the variations in various drug effects. Yes, saffrole MDMA contains the magic, newer forms that have ended up in my hands do not. It is not foolish to assume that making a pie with generic store brand butter and quality sourced margarine would produce a different texture, taste and resulting likeness/dislikeness compared to other preparations.

Without a doubt in my mind, the last five years has been a shitshow for LSD in these parts. The fuzzy brain fog and body load make it a farshot from the lucid Leary-ean perfection of former synths.
 
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Yea dose has been so good and clean around here lately too. But to be fair I’ve also stumbled upon more low quality impure batches these days than ever before too.

For instance just hung and tripped with some friends recently, they were blown away by how deep they could get into the trip yet how “there” they were.. I was like “yup this is how good clean LSD feels, you can trip hard AF while not having an edgy feeling and your mind feels like it’s expamded to 10x it’s size and capabilities.”

I gave em a tenner for future experiences and then he just gave me all his dose cuz he felt it was “too pointy.” They said even at a small dose it had an uncomfortable “I just want this to stop” feel to it. Not sure what I’ll do with it lol.

-GC
 
G_Chem said:
Yea dose has been so good and clean around here lately too. But to be fair I’ve also stumbled upon more low quality impure batches these days than ever before too.

For instance just hung and tripped with some friends recently, they were blown away by how deep they could get into the trip yet how “there” they were.. I was like “yup this is how good clean LSD feels, you can trip hard AF while not having an edgy feeling and your mind feels like it’s expamded to 10x it’s size and capabilities.”

I gave em a tenner for future experiences and then he just gave me all his dose cuz he felt it was “too pointy.” They said even at a small dose it had an uncomfortable “I just want this to stop” feel to it. Not sure what I’ll do with it lol.

-GC
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You should test it for sure.

Friend of mine got ahold of some weird ass liquid a while back, was like a light tan color and had almost a sugary sweet taste.... Made me trip, but had an uncomfortable edge to it with none of the sparkle of the real deal.
 
We reagent test everything around here. I suppose it could be a LSD analog but as has already been said, those often cost more to make than LSD itself.

I was also given a tenner earlier this year as a sample, also tested legit and actually really strongly, but the feel of it was dirty. Like I felt confused, uncomfortable and it lingered much longer than I would have liked. Also had that penny/metallic taste/feel that people talk about with impure LSD, usually I taste nothing but paper. This paper was also half the price and from fairly reputable people.

It’s around, you gotta think with this psychedelic renaissance someone’s gotta be sybthing shitty L out there.

-Gc
 
G_Chem said:
We reagent test everything around here. I suppose it could be a LSD analog but as has already been said, those often cost more to make than LSD itself.

I was also given a tenner earlier this year as a sample, also tested legit and actually really strongly, but the feel of it was dirty. Like I felt confused, uncomfortable and it lingered much longer than I would have liked. Also had that penny/metallic taste/feel that people talk about with impure LSD, usually I taste nothing but paper. This paper was also half the price and from fairly reputable people.

It’s around, you gotta think with this psychedelic renaissance someone’s gotta be sybthing shitty L out there.

-Gc
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When i tried some 150 ug acid from a random old hippie who claimed him and his friends managed to pull a small synth off it was very dirty but still LSD heavy body load very confused but also kind of loving and warm and quite trippy. They had obv not done any form of purification.

My last batch of acid i tripped on it wasen't the highest quality but very fucking potent hits was a bit too much some stomach load and mental edginess during the come up at a hour and 30 min mark i could no longer make out the room really it was just heavy melting and fractal visuals of multicoloured every object morphing into another one tripped on it 5 times was also ultra cheap for the area. Got a new batch to test out dosed potent back to to very high purity from a pro sadly its always made in small batches artwork is def unique to the local area. NZ LSD chemists are on their own level with the amount of dosage they put into their tabs. One just needs to watch psychedsubstance and sees all his trip reports here and why people had bad trips with him for first timers (taking 350 ug local blotters here is ruthless)

The best blotter i try always dissolves in the mouth fully within 10 minutes very nice paper no stuck around there like thick blotter lesser lsd is put on.
 
heatlessbbq said:
What kind of LSD? Tabs or liq?
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Usually tabs, sometimes liquid. Doesn't matter either way, being tabs or liquid has no effect on its quality, it's just how it's stored/dosed.

I mean I literally haven't seen bad/weak acid in years. I've traded for some hits at festivals or been given liquid, and it's always clean and strong.
 
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