kidklmx
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Those >200ug blotters aren't really what the masses get their hands on, and 1 hit of that is more than enough for most. Hell, 2 of those is a hefty dose already. Wouldn't you imagine there being a ton more freak outs if every single blotter would be >200ug? That's a good chunk of the NBOMe problem right there, >1mg blotters being sold as if that's a normal dose.
Also, 1mg too much is a slight overdose? Returning to my 4-Aco-DMT analogy, if I accidentally took 40mg instead of 20mg then regardless of being experienced, I'm going to have a bad time (or a really good one depending on a multitude of factors)
Again, not saying the NBOMes are as safe as LSD, but you're expecting this chemical to be safer than LSD. Most of my experience has been with 25C, and 500ug is really different from 300ug. 700ug is really different from 500ug. I don't see why 200ug increments with a potent psychedelic gives a dangerous dose-response curve.
Anon: Yeah, but 2C-B is still structurally similar to Mescaline. It's not that the compounds aren't "natural", that's some of the biggest bullcrap in drug culture right now, but that the vendors have to stray further from known safe structures to circumvent the law. E.g 2C-B is benign on the body, Bromo-Dragonfly is definitely not.* Not saying no good ones will pop up, but the chances of a good one popping up are getting slimmer. Which is why I said "until we figure out the human body", because once we do that, then sure as hell we're going to have strange compounds that are much better than what we have right now.
And you can't deny that the general trend with newer chemicals is that they're getting shittier and shittier. But let's leave this discussion at that because 1) I agree and 2) this discussion has been made a gazillion times before
*No, Bromo-Dragonfly was not designed for the market, but vendors will pick up on those chemicals because of analog acts and all
Also, 1mg too much is a slight overdose? Returning to my 4-Aco-DMT analogy, if I accidentally took 40mg instead of 20mg then regardless of being experienced, I'm going to have a bad time (or a really good one depending on a multitude of factors)
Again, not saying the NBOMes are as safe as LSD, but you're expecting this chemical to be safer than LSD. Most of my experience has been with 25C, and 500ug is really different from 300ug. 700ug is really different from 500ug. I don't see why 200ug increments with a potent psychedelic gives a dangerous dose-response curve.
Anon: Yeah, but 2C-B is still structurally similar to Mescaline. It's not that the compounds aren't "natural", that's some of the biggest bullcrap in drug culture right now, but that the vendors have to stray further from known safe structures to circumvent the law. E.g 2C-B is benign on the body, Bromo-Dragonfly is definitely not.* Not saying no good ones will pop up, but the chances of a good one popping up are getting slimmer. Which is why I said "until we figure out the human body", because once we do that, then sure as hell we're going to have strange compounds that are much better than what we have right now.
And you can't deny that the general trend with newer chemicals is that they're getting shittier and shittier. But let's leave this discussion at that because 1) I agree and 2) this discussion has been made a gazillion times before
*No, Bromo-Dragonfly was not designed for the market, but vendors will pick up on those chemicals because of analog acts and all
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