Hows Your Diet Lads ? And Any Goals For The Summer ?

now we getting into the nitty gritty neo! great discussion and you prompted me to think deeper and explain myself more, so here we go:

genetics; its a bullshit in the sense that, its not what people first think genetics means.

we are all human, we all have 99% the same genetics. what sets us apart are a few key points, that ultimately IS our genetics, but not considered what people think is.

what makes us fat or not is not our genetics. its a product of our environment.
we are a product of what we've done the last 8-10 years. if you been marathon run training for 8-10yrs, your muscle fibres will adapt to whats best for those long, hard runs.
They will be totally different muscle composition from a eg. 100 metre sprinter for 8-10yrs, their fibres will be explosive and the energy system feeding them will have adapted to be different.
You can be either, or none. Its what you've been doing all that time that will determine where you are now.

Its not a genetic makeup, oh this person was destined to be a runner. No, not at all. they just applied themselves! for 8-10 solid years to build the foundation. this does indeed change our genetic make up, as we age we change, a product of our environment.

Another form of genetics is the ability to cope. this is what i call true genetics. its outside our control for the most part, we can't really train for it (although you CAN train for anything).

Take for example drinking alcohol, some people's genetics gives them more liver enzyme production, that breaks down the toxins. This is the true genetics. this is the factor that makes pro bodybuilder that true 1%. The average person would die from the anabolics they take, their genetics allows them to take copious amounts and not excessive liver problems, not cascade into severe depression etc etc.

The idea that your physical body is "good" or "bad" genetics is a lie. its to make people feel better about themselves, for NOT achieving their goals. well thats a very big mistake right off the bat.

Not everyone can be mr olympia, because not everyone can cope with the stress the body undertakes to do that.

But that has nothing to do with our physical appearance. its the biological functions that our true "genetics" is determined by.

Another reason why, when using steroids, going high doses first without introducing them to your body and letting its genetics learn how to process said molecules will only lead to disaster.

Do you rock upto the gym and just put your working set straight on the bar?
Or do you pyramid up, so your body gets warmed up, the joints get lubricated and adequate stress fires muscles responses preparing for the onslaught.

Then why would anybody approach anything else in life different. Gear as an on topic example.

Would you just start with 500mg a week? or would you think 200/300mg for first few weeks is actually adequate to saturate and then upping to 400, then 500 over another few weeks actually be a smarter idea.

I say thats a great idea. others say just load up the bar...
I have previous injuries ive learnt from, i hope others learn from my mistakes, start light and build up, instead of loading up the bar.

Use your genetics to your advantage! don't destroy that learning machine by overdoing it too early.

Talking about genetics, i probably shouldn't mention clen. someone remind me in a month or so and i'll give my 2 cents on rna/dna and clen :)
 
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No mate I agree with you on that. Whether your body can cope, and for that mater whether you can train your mind to cope with really hard adverse conditions is the true test. I know you can train your body and mind to ignore and or do a lot of really crazy shit. That is a lesson learned curtsey of uncle Sam. That begin said some people have some genetic gifts, whether that is their body can just suck up the damage done to it, or that it happens to produce more of a given enzyme or less of a given enzyme ect ect think Belgian blue bulls, and height if you are talking pro bodybuilders, lest face it height is a factor so are things like arm/leg/torso length but this all applies to that very very specific ratio of 1:1.618 for determining the perfect aesthetic look.

But the rest, is totally right any one given the proclivity can train to be pretty much any thing. We are at the core a very adaptable creature, and if we stay in the situation long enough we will adapt, same goes if you train to run you will slowly become a runner, or a climber or hell a guitar player. But genetics do factor into the very top tier of pro any thing. but you are right I could say lessen genetics % but then you would have to ad say the x-factor percentage. That would cover things like soul, and personality. Much like if a player can be technically proficient but lacking the soul to be truly connected to his chosen sport/instrument/ or outlet for what ever art form. A great example would be Arnold vs Colombo - Arnold beat Franco because of his height and his personalty, the man had a just sheer force of positive thinking thing going, but in reality Franco was just built better then Arnold, lats, lower back, abs,all better then Arnold,but Arnold just towered over Franco, Arnolds size and force of personality blew Franco out.

But yeah starting with a high dose of any thing not particularly bright you would not start with a heavy dose of Heroin or LSD and then work your way to loser doses. But yeah City glad you have been staying around, like I said adding to the conversation and making people think is a good thing.
 
my approach is different than most. its more modern and less bodybuilding. more elite athlete who happens to train bodybuilding, so looks like a bodybuilder. but trust me i'm still learning every day!

just sharing what ive learnt so far, and soaking up what others out there can teach me too :)
 
Pretty similar to what I do. I keep up a lot of the training I was doing in the service, as well as how I would typically train for a given mountaineering expedition. Add in some martial arts and that's how I train. I am the same way though I throw my shit out to any one that wants it and absorb every thing I can and any thing that might give me an edge. We have a few cats like that here. It is an odd mix of ages, education. and backgrounds as well as training styles, we have our selves a nice little think tank brewing.
 
and this is how real progress is made. i don't think other bb sites will like the truth :P
 
@NEO , Can I ask you what labs and dosage you cruise your test on and you typical blast mate?

As I've mentioned a few times I'm going on for good soon so I am asking guys who are already doing it what they're labs of choice are, I will figure my own blasts out no bother but still like to know what others do,

BTW :):) Today for the 1st time after finishing deca about 2 months ago I got horny hey hey :) Sex drive is back , just thought I'd share that hehe
 
My curent cruise is as follows:

250mg/Test Cyp a week
200mg/Deca/Week
300mg/Eq/week

It is all high concentration gear except the Test which is pfizer. As for the rest of the gear, it is all Zyklon Pharmaceuticals I love em nice and clean, 25ml jugs that are filler right to the damn stopper. My orals are Kalpa, or one of a few UGLs I trust other then that I try to keep all of my gear Pharmaceutical at all costs. Little more money but hey in the long run it is worth it. BTW the Test comes as 200mg/ml from Pfizer so I have to pull a full 1.25 ml for the weekly injections. For me that sucks because I could use the Zyklon at .5,l for the full 250mg. So when I do a blast, I am only doing like 1.5ml of the three compounds per injection( twice a week) for 500mg/400mg/600mg respectively. I wont get too much into the labs as I don't want to tread on the line of what could be considered sourcing. I should say periodically I drop to just the Test to give my body a bit of a break yearly, this is usually on vacation, as I have an RX for the test and can travel with it.

I started running my HGH last week, it is Norditropin Pens 4IU a day divided into two daily injections early morning ( pre work out) and then later after noon. I am already getting all the signs of HGH little annoying as this will be with me till well this time next year but well worth the small fortune and discomfort. From time to time on cruise I will add in Ostirine @ 25mg/day and GW @ 10mg/daily adds a little boost and I like them when I am pushing to drop a little weight or body fat run for 90days and then let it go fro the next minimum of 90 days but usually longer like 406 months. I only really run traditional orals on a blast, though I have in the past run orals fro a short time during my cruise. I tend to only run one blast a year but they are long runs 24-30 weeks at a shot.
 
I cruise on endogenous test and endogenous hgh ~2iu daily as im young :P

back to the diet thing. I been doing a dirty bulk so far since the weather got cold. And by dirty I mean fast food 3x a week. I got stuck at 167 pounds while dry (first thing after morning piss) so I figured ramp up the calories and cut in the spring. Also added in GW and twice weekly cardio and ive actually LOST body fat lmao. Ive never done a full on dirty bulk as junk food (candy, cake, ice cream, etc) isnt very appealing to me. My dirty is just moderately high fat red meat (god I love hamburgers).

I must admit my fiber was suffering which led to me suffering on the shitter. Well it had been probably 5 months since I had taco bell (I was craving it bad last night, like stoner food craving) and ended up gorging on a steak quesadilla, beefy 5 layer burrito, and cheesy fiesta potatoes (no sour cream on any of that shit yuck). Well I just cleaned out my colon! Huzzah! Taco bell, laxative in a bag. I feel loads better though being empty.
 
lol so I take it the GW is working lol. It will work well for a dirty bulk as it will stave off the fat a good bit, but as long as yoru active and keep the junk with in reason you will be kosher mate. How is the GW treating you? That is aside from the fat loss lol.
 
Doing well actually. Been on for about 2 weeks now. Cardio has always been a weak point for me and its getting easier. Recovery from working out between sets is incredibly short. Yesterday I did a mile as fast as I could and was ready to run again after about 1-2minutes of stopping. Ridiculous. I see why wada banned this stuff.
 
haha Yeah it is a nice boost. And the extra bonus of, changing the bodies preference to fats as an energy source, plus it helps with blood pressure, and lipid profiles. Glad to see it is doing its thing mate. Next time try adding some Ostirine to it will give you the real push for the lean mass gains. What is your daily dose currently?
 
Im using 15mg/daily and doing well. Thinking of seeing what 20mg will do. Its odd though. I dont really get hungry, but when I eat I can eat so much... melanotan will be arriving soon so I can be tan, constant boners, and suppress my appetite. Got 30mg of it on the way patrickstewartfullofwin.jpg
 
my approach is different than most. its more modern and less bodybuilding. more elite athlete who happens to train bodybuilding, so looks like a bodybuilder. but trust me i'm still learning every day!

just sharing what ive learnt so far, and soaking up what others out there can teach me too :)

Well... What is your different approach, more modern and less body-building, more elite athlete.... ??

The suspense is killing me......!!
 
its shorter cycles so as to not get negative sides like insane muscle pumps or cramping which stops you training.

its 2-3 weeks on, 2-3 weeks off, repeat 2 then break for a month then start again. dosage is enough to stimulate every process in the body but not enough time for water bloat to hinder workouts. its a shorter, more functional approach. And alot healthier for your blood pressure, alot less ancillaries used. basically the less you put in the body the better. just enough to get the results.
 
I am so incredibly pissed that I have dipped to 220lbs. Bollocks I am eating, like a bloody horse but I need to tone down some of my activities. The up side to this is I know I am dropping body fat % I am low @ 7% atm need to have my monthly hydrostat weighing done, because I am visibly more cut, all I can say is this will allow me to blow up lean as all hell this winter but man I thought I had stopped the weight loss and hit a nice cruising weight so to speak. But I digress.

You know I am going to blame the loss on the Melanotan II- it has been leading to more late night cardio.
 
You're only 220 right now? I think I can take you now.

I have studied prison boxing for 4 years LOL
 
AHHHH grashopper son is your Dragon style good enough?

LOL prison boxing? so dirty ass fighting? lol I have 22 years in JKD and 12 in Aikido, and I have been studying Krav Marga fro a few months now with my woman.
All seriousness though do you box?

Serotonin- with the bad boy yardy shankz. Hid them niggas in your rectum eh? Rectum damn near kill em.
 
My take on Genetics.................. its genetics 100%!

Why 100% you may ask? Because if you dont have the genetics that the top pros have no amount of drugs or training or supplements will get you to that level. I dont care how dedicated you are, or how many grams of test and 20 million other drugs you take each week, if its not in your DNA your pushing shit up hill with a toothpick if you think you are ever going to look like a pro.

And just because you start out as a skinny guy before you start lifting dosent mean you dont have the genetic potential to be a top pro. That potential could be sitting there laying dormant and you may never know. And equally important just because you a naturally big lean guy without training dosent mean you have the genetics required either. The truth is this and it may be hard for some people to hear, if you have been regularly training for a year or more and you dont know if you have the genetics to be a top pro...............guess what, you dont. If you didnt know due to your limited understanding of the sport you would soon know by the reaction of other people in the gym, as was the case with Dorian when he was a teenager doing time in a juvenile detention centre and was forced to do weight training as part of his "rehablitation". After a few short weeks he easily surpassed the boys that had been training for years and the correctional officers were astounded and told him he should take up bodybuilding, so of course he did.

In my 35 years in the gym world and after witnessing literally tens of thousands of gym members I have seen these genetics twice, just twice, and it is the most incredable experience to witness first hand. Its the sort of thing you have to see with your own eyes as you would never believe it if someone else told you.

People go on about how much the gear the pros use and what magical drugs they are on. But as much as you would like to think to the contrary steriods do not make pro bodybuilders pro bodybuilders, let me say that again STEROIDS DO NOT MAKE PRO BODYBUILDERS PRO BODYBUILDERS!!

There are literally millions of steroid users around the world and thousands that are wannabe pros who are taking as much if not more gear than the pros in order to try to become "the next big thing", yet you will never know they exsist as they just dont have the genetic ability to back it up.
With the pro bodybuilders I have worked with during my career I am amazed at how little stuff they are on. The simple truth is they dont need to take much in order to get amazing results. I dont know what this is due to but I suspect that these individuals have so many genetic traits in thier favour that narrowing it down to a single reason like having more androgen receptors or extremely low myostatin levels would not provide an accurate explanation of exactly what is going on here.

So the next time you look a top pro and think "I could look like that if I was on all the shit he is on!" think again, because unless your are a genetic god you wrong, dead wrong.

Oh maybe with Kigtropin....!!! :)
 
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