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In my line of work I deal with ALL sorts of people. Including young kids and young girls approaching teenage years. They come in dressed like little tarts and I ask them "How do you get away with wearing that as far as your parents go?"
And they would say "Mum goes shopping with me"

Girls have even said to me whilst I am dealing with them that they find it funny how the older men keep staring at them so they will deliberately wear short skirts just to see the looks on the mens faces.

Now I am sorry but that is FUCKED UP. I was infuriated when this was said to me and I will never forget it, nor ever have any respect for the little tarts.

They like to tease as they find it 'funny'...... But they are taking one hell of a risk with their safety but they tend to think it wont happen to them ...

THIS is where the parents step in and fucking educate them. My parents did. To the point where as soon as I was of age i went and learnt mu thai!

Every time there was a murder report or a report on a missing girl on the news, mum would make me come into the lounge and watch it. She made me very aware of what happens in this world. It seems to me a lot of the young girls of today are not aware of all the bad shit that can happen.
 
Yes. We should all walk around expecting men to attack us at any moment.

On that note, I'm adopting the hijab, and I expect you'll be deleting all your pics from the gallery, dfrs.
 
Beatlebot said:
Yes. We should all walk around expecting men to attack us at any moment.

That is what you guys are more so saying, not me.

And no i wont be needing to delete all of my pics because A) they are just pics on a screen without a address or anything typed under them and B) They are all pretty much just face shots. A lot less appealing than the nude pics floating around this site thats fur sure.

Try again.
 
What I mean to say is; Clearly you are an attractive woman, Chik. And by posting your pics here you are advertising that fact, aren't you? So if somehow some crazy motherfucker found out who you were and where you lived because of all that, it would still somehow be your fault because you should've known better in the first place, right? RIGHT?
 
If i was female i would resent being labeled a 'tart' because of how i dress. In my experience negative female stereotypes are perpetuated much more by other females than men. Guys are generally built pretty simple (if somewhat emotionally retarded) : "are you hot? are you into me? will my retarded mates think im a legend for screwing you?".

Females are much more likely to pull the insecurity card and do a lot more damage: "OMG, what was she thinking!? She looks like a slut! I'd never wear that. I cant believe she thinks she is anything"

Remember, if you have respect for yourself then everyone else will.

Sorry, back off topic.
If the girl was raped ...
while being at school : its the teachers fault
by <whatever racial creed>: <insert racial slur>, lets go fuck them up
while in a shopping mall: its the police, what do we pay them for?
while at a friends place : its the family friends fault
while walking home : its the neighborhood watchs fault
while in a country town: its those damn inbreds
while eating iceream : its Darrel Leas fault

Sorry, but I really get fucking ticked off at the blame masturbation game. Especially when its so mind boggling obvious there is a deranged psychopath running around who really should be institutionalised because he is completely unable to understand the magnitude of the emotional carnage he is inflicting on some poor little girls life for a few measly minutes of personal gratification.

... yeah, mum really is partially to blame ... ffs, sense of proportion
 
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My god.... i actually don't even think you guys have even read my replies properly. I am not bothering anymore. You think what you want and I will think what I want alright.

You guys are going completely off track just to try and prove your points. Clearly you cant see where I am coming from so lets just agree to disagree.

Not once have i said it is ALL the fucking mothers fault. I am not playing the friggin blame game. I am just saying it is a parents job to educate their kids and try to stress to them just what can happen if certain things are worn etc. It's a real fucking shame that there are so many maniacs out their and a young girl can't just do as she pleases. It's in the same context as if the girl went out at night time and caught a train all by herself ... on a weekend night too. That is also a bloody stupid thing to do considering she is on her own and a young female.

After the Frankston killing in Frankston/Melbourne, all the young girls in the town no longer went out of a night time. I remember it on the news - the young blokes were saying how it is very frustrating as they will go out and hope to meet girls but fuck all will be there to meet.

If you swim out to the middle of the sea with a bleeding leg .... don't be surprised if a bloody shark attacks you.

All I am saying is that women DO need to be careful! Maniacs go on the hunt. If people wanna go off and make themselves more desirable bate then good luck to them.
 
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a bit of a `te`he yes? [wig-horm] yes?

drugfukkdrockstar said:
My god.... i actually don't even think you guys have even read my replies properly. I am not bothering anymore. You think what you want and I will think what I want alright.

You guys are going completely off track just to try and prove your points. Clearly you cant see where I am coming from so lets just agree to disagree.

^LOL 8( =D

...lol `HA !​
 
LOL. Sorry MD but you havent said anything of merit, *what so ever* (as per usual)

Mate if i thought sexual assault would dissapear from society just by smiling and nodding itd be fucking great but the fact is that is not the case; of course young girl have the RIGHT to wear WHATEVER SHE WANT but is it sensibile? fucking of course not -

There will always be "deranged psychopath running around who really should be institutionalised because he is completely unable to understand the magnitude of the emotional carnage he is inflicting" - these men will not dissapear over night - the onus rests on SOCIETY to build adequate protections against these monsters, and dressing properly and taking some fucking parental responsibility is the first step, simple as that

To suggest that parents have no responsibility in this matters is fucking ludicrous at best and i soundly reject any your elitist cock suckery
 
drugfukkdrockstar said:
A lot less appealing than the nude pics floating around this site thats fur sure.

Obviously you haven't seen all the nude pics on this site...

As for the notion that young girls wearing revealing clothes are somehow partially responsible for inducing men to sexually assault them... that is ridiculous. On the other hand, women should start being more aggressive in preempting sexual predators, because let's face it, they are everywhere. Especially Bluelight.

The most sterling example of this kind of female strength and unity are the ruthless hookers from the movie Sin City. I have never seen a more empowered gang of murderous prostitutes in my life, and I think more women should strive to achieve that kind of sexy violence. I salute those bitches. Damn I love women.
 
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^ Thank you.

Edit: That was for ValeTudo! lol

Benefit - are you for real? Like... are you being serious? Sin City if a fucking movie dude. Yes a very awesome one, but it isn't at all realistic. Oh don't get me wrong there have been many times i wish i could have the law on my side and be given the ok to fuck over certain males i have come across and make sure they can never hurt a woman ever again in their low lives... but unfortunately... we can't. Hell, isn't it against the law to own a can of mase spray? Yes it is.

Be realistic guys.
 
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drugfukkdrockstar said:
Benefit - are you for real? Like... are you being serious? Sin City if a fucking movie dude. Yes a very awesome one, but it isn't at all realistic.

Oh yeah? You mean it's not realistic for women to finally get fed up and tired of taking shit from a male-centric society and fight back? It's not realistic to expect women to finally cast off the oppressive shackles of male domination and say "I will no longer be a victim!" I think that's a perfectly plausible scenario. Women shouldn't be afraid to wear whatever they want. We live in a culture of fear, as evidenced by the following:

Every time there was a murder report or a report on a missing girl on the news, mum would make me come into the lounge and watch it. She made me very aware of what happens in this world.

It's tragic and it needs to stop. I love women. I want to see them prosper and dance. A man can go to work wearing nothing but a trash bag and he will get a promotion. It's unfair. It's time to take a stand against injustice.

And by the way, mase is legal in the US baby.
 
Benefit you are clearly going on a rampage so we'll let ya go with it.


Benefit said:
And by the way, mase is legal in the US baby.

So? Thats the US dude. This is a Aussie forum where mostly Aussies are so who gives a crap what the US has legal. It is not legal HERE.
Besides - so it bloody should be legal in the US. :/ That doesn't surprise me at all.

And I agree with you that women are a loud to be fed up. I even stated that I am fed up. What I am saying is no we can't pull out the Sin City styles and live out your fantasy!

Can you imagine? Guy grabs girl and tries to drag her into he bushes. Girl pulls out sword and slices guys head off. Yeah .... like that'll go down well with the laws of today.
 
Personally I dont think clothing has a great deal to do with it. If someone is capable of rape and wants to do it they are gonna rape regardless of what their target is wrapped up in. Rape and child sexual abuse has been happenig long before Brittany Spears/ little girls dressing up as women/insert other child sexualising trend here ever came about.
 
If you are female do you identify as a feminist? to a point.

What does this word today mean to you? A woman who is independent, aware of her sexuality, femininity and rights.

Why do you think (apart from above) it comes with neagtive images?
I think most men anyway think of feminist movements in the sixties burning bras and not shaving their armpits.


Do you think there is a need for feminism? yes, in this age i believe feminism is needed in most modern day religions, as they all have been designed by men to suppress women.. apart from the pagan faith- which actually celebrates women-



Are women "equal" with men in society?
In most aspects in *western* society yes, apart from the fact that if a man sleeps with a load of girls he's respected amongst other men- but if a girl does the same -she's a whore.


Is there a gender reversal?

I think in some respects yes and in others no.. for instance it is far more acceptable nowadays for a man to be 'metrosexual' -i.e - look after his appearance etc.
Where as if a woman let herself go, and didn't wax or anything, people would find this unfeminine behavior and she would be criticized for it- maybe not to her face.

I still think society has double standards when it comes to men and women, but I also agree that some women use there sexuality as a tool for manipulation etc.

But if a women used her sexuality to get ahead at work.. would this be seen as modern day feminism?
If a man did the same, would he be so harshly judged?
 
Valetudo: hee hee, its amusing what it says about people when they need resort to personal attacks in a debate
But you’re more than welcome to it, you seem to need it more than i

I’ve taken the liberty of distilling your entertaining content to the ‘sound’ rebuttal part:
If we dress our kids responsibly we will have less child rape
(Please, let me know if there was any reasoning beyond this assertion)

I believe that the decision to commit the rape is not spontaneously decided and acted upon when they see someone, psychologically an act of this magnitude would already been decided unon well beforehand and the monster is merely a ticking bomb.

Secondly, a child molesters fantasy is more likely to revolve around youth, innocence and vulnerability which would make the ankle-length-dress pervert-defense-strategy backfire.

Lastly, its irrelevant either way as they will always settle for someone, there is no prevention through fashion. Whoever that happens to be I cannot see how the parent could be at fault any more than society at large.
 
Some people here seem to think that paedophiles are stimulated to rape by "slutty" clothing. This is ridiculous. People with this sort of view should really seek to educate themselves about the subject they're so loudly expressing their opinions about.
 
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Oh man lets just agree to disagree and just drop it!
Lets put it this way, people have their own reasons for their opinions and if you guys want to judge people because they have certain opinions then thats your problem.

Vanth I think you need to get some education on how to deal with people full stop. Stop being so judgmental and accept we share different opinions. In this sort of argument people can really only go by their own experiences and reasons in why they see things a certain way.

Let's move on shall we and quit recycling the same crap over and over. Lets all build a bridge.
 
Exactly (edit: agreeing with vanth's point)... paedophiles get off on the Big W infants catalogue. :( Having said that, surely people see that it's not right for a pre/pubescent child to be wearing g-bangers and t-shirts saying "my boyfriend is out of town". IMO, totally inappropriate, but that, IMO has nothing to do with the case everyone is speaking about. I just don't think that little girls should be dressed up like painted babies, there is something about a 9 year old dressed like a 20 year old that offends me to the core and saddens me to no end. :(
 
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