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eating Nurofen

drinky_mcbeer said:
i took 12 halves at the start, being my first time i didnt want to take too big a dose without exeriencing what was about to happen, half an hour later i took another half then half an hour later i took the panadiene fortes. next time should i jsut take 24 halves at once?

thanks evryone for quick replies
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From Erowid:
*CYP2D6
The body converts codeine into morphine (~10% ) by using the so called P450 cytochrome pathway, especially cytochrome 2d6 (cyp2d6). Unfortunately, cyp2d6 is missing in about 7% of the white population, and its manifestation is quite variable in the rest. Individuals who inherited a cyp2d6 deficiency will get many of the adverse effects associated with codeine but little euphoria. If codeine just doesn't work for you, this may be why.

Some drugs also interfere with cyp2d6. Prime among these are the SSRIs, with the exception of Zoloft (if I remember correctly). The most potent inhibitor is paroxetine (paxil), followed by fluoxetine (prozac). If you are taking an SSRI, you will probably experience a markedly decreased euphoria when using codeine. (Paxil has a half life of only 24hrs, so not taking it for a few days will do miracles; the half life of prozac is 7 days.)

Finally, codeine itself is a cyp2d6 inhibitor. This means that taking the whole dose as quickly as possible will probably give you the biggest high (ie. its a waste to redose in 30 mins).
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Perhaps you didn't feel anything because of the redose problem?
 
Took 12 N+ halves for the first time last night (tested with marquis just in case).
Felt good, fell asleep after nearly 2 hours.
But felt very nauseas for a few hours this morning, not sure if it's related.


Batch: 8A
Expiry: 9/2007
Splittable: Yes
 
Perhaps you didn't feel anything because of the redose problem?
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Agreed, I have found redosing codeine to be rather ineffectual too. Can make you feel ill, however :P
(But the nice effects are greatly reduced!!)

So dont bother. Munch em all at once with some benzo's and a big frosty glass of Berri grapefruit juice.

Yum!
 
Please people, listen up. I am in a lot of deep water over using Codeine. :(

Codeine is very addictive along with benzo's and just as bad as alcohol addiction. I recommend those people who have addictive personalities, do not to go near the stuff. I have my reasons for using it, but I am now stuck with an addiction I have to battle through. I have tried to give up numerous times, only to keep going back.

I can't stress enough, Codeine is not a 'toy'. Sorry if that all sounds dumb, but I can't find the correct words righ now.
 
I can now say im addicted to codeine. But when I think about it whats the harm? you can't go to wild as only 400mg is motoblised at once, you can't redose, it costs pittens and it doesn't do damage to your body.

The only problem is now I generally want to stay homes high on Mr.C than go out with my friends.
 
h-90: Perhaps a little brainstorm is in order. Wiegh up the negative aspects and the positive ones for you. In my case it would be something like this:

Negative:
Daily usage->side effects
High cost @ $16/day (or more)
Loss of fittness
Lack of social interaction
Sleeping for 14+ hours/day

Possitives:
Nicely toasted on a daily basis
Forget about whatever is going on in life (good or bad)
The ability to add at least another 5 pages to this thread (jk)
 
mongman said:
h-90: Perhaps a little brainstorm is in order. Wiegh up the negative aspects and the positive ones for you. In my case it would be something like this:

Negative:
Daily usage->side effects
High cost @ $16/day (or more)
Loss of fittness
Lack of social interaction
Sleeping for 14+ hours/day

Possitives:
Nicely toasted on a daily basis
Forget about whatever is going on in life (good or bad)
The ability to add at least another 5 pages to this thread (jk)
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Yeah, I definately agree with the sleeping 14 hours a day remark. Not good, particularly if you have a job...

Also, if you are taking everyday, how the hell do you take a dump?? Doesn't that get to you after a while?
 
h-90. Take this mans (mongman) GREAT advise and think about it again.

Since I started using Codeine I have been labeled as a hermit, loner, lazy, and more. Even by my one real friend, who I thought would never speak to me again at one point.

You may think it is doing no damage to your body, but I know for a fact I have less energy than I have ever had in my whole life. I feel twice my age :( and if you are prone to depression, it WILL make it worse in the long term when you try to deal with your life without that 'warm & numbing codeine' feeling we all know.
 
I'm not so much concerned with the social implications as with the effect on my bowel movements. The constipation alone is enough to force me to moderate my use.
 
comf0rtably numb said:
I'm not so much concerned with the social implications as with the effect on my bowel movements. The constipation alone is enough to force me to moderate my use.
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Use Metamucil, works a treat for me :). (But take it well after dosing).
 
The_Great_Refusal: Read my lowdown on the Panafen Plus a few pages back. I have photo's as well, just watch your liver....
 
mongman said:
The_Great_Refusal: Read my lowdown on the Panafen Plus a few pages back. I have photo's as well, just watch your liver....
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I guess if you wanna do CWE Panafen plus would be fine, but yeah...those tests you did would have to rule it out for splitting.
 
A Few Tips for the N+ Padawan

>Chemist
These places tend to be a little stark and bewildering for some1 that doesnt spend a lot of time in them, so don't act too familiar and practised, ie dont scan the place and approach the prescriptions counter in one smooth motion (where youll presumably have to ask for the n+).

When you ask for it, you dont want to give the 'codeine junkie' impression, i find the "I'll have a pack of N+ thanks", (Theyll then ask what size) "Uhh.. what sizes do they come in??, how much are the 48's?? etc" works best, you really want to focus on that ignorant look.

They'll then give you the "Do you have asthma, allergic reactions, codeine causing drowsiness" spiel. At this point they might also try some nosey smalltalk, so i find a vague "wisdom teeth causing me pain" better than the "They're for my g/f". A lot of this drama can be avoided by memorising all the chemists in a few km's radius and just rotating.

>At Home
In terms of dosage, start off small (Under 10 or whatever) and build up in 2's or 4's if you enjoy it enough to continue. Your tolerance will increase _rapidly_ so bear that in mind, and spread out each session to maximise enjoyment. After you get past the level where you need the full 48 pack/ 400mg to get the buzz your kinda maxed out.

In my opinion, the whole batch number, odds or evens thing is a crock. I dont think theres any rythme or reason to which ones are splittable. Think its probabaly got more to do with the conditions under which the packs are stored/temperature/time kept. This is also supported in the fact that ive definitely got more splittable packs from the big chain chemists that have a higher turnover. (with the pack sitting on the shelf for shorter periods) Could be wrong through *shrug*.

When your splitting them, use either a pill splitter or a knife that goes to a point but isnt too sharp. Once you have an eye for where the sweet-spot split is, dont think in terms of 'cutting' it in half.. you want to more of 'pop' it off in one smooth tap. Youll have much more success, particularly in the half-splittable cases, where a sharper knife will shear and crumble a pill but a duller one will seperate it cleanly.

Weed and codeine combine very well, so be safe and have fun!
 
Wormwood said:
A Few Tips for the N+ Padawan

>Chemist
These places tend to be a little stark and bewildering for some1 that doesnt spend a lot of time in them, so don't act too familiar and practised, ie dont scan the place and approach the prescriptions counter in one smooth motion (where youll presumably have to ask for the n+).

When you ask for it, you dont want to give the 'codeine junkie' impression, i find the "I'll have a pack of N+ thanks", (Theyll then ask what size) "Uhh.. what sizes do they come in??, how much are the 48's?? etc" works best, you really want to focus on that ignorant look.

They'll then give you the "Do you have asthma, allergic reactions, codeine causing drowsiness" spiel. At this point they might also try some nosey smalltalk, so i find a vague "wisdom teeth causing me pain" better than the "They're for my g/f". A lot of this drama can be avoided by memorising all the chemists in a few km's radius and just rotating.

>At Home
In terms of dosage, start off small (Under 10 or whatever) and build up in 2's or 4's if you enjoy it enough to continue. Your tolerance will increase _rapidly_ so bear that in mind, and spread out each session to maximise enjoyment. After you get past the level where you need the full 48 pack/ 400mg to get the buzz your kinda maxed out.

In my opinion, the whole batch number, odds or evens thing is a crock. I dont think theres any rythme or reason to which ones are splittable. Think its probabaly got more to do with the conditions under which the packs are stored/temperature/time kept. This is also supported in the fact that ive definitely got more splittable packs from the big chain chemists that have a higher turnover. (with the pack sitting on the shelf for shorter periods) Could be wrong through *shrug*.

When your splitting them, use either a pill splitter or a knife that goes to a point but isnt too sharp. Once you have an eye for where the sweet-spot split is, dont think in terms of 'cutting' it in half.. you want to more of 'pop' it off in one smooth tap. Youll have much more success, particularly in the half-splittable cases, where a sharper knife will shear and crumble a pill but a duller one will seperate it cleanly.

Weed and codeine combine very well, so be safe and have fun!
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Sound advice. Whenever my friend or I go into the chemist to pick up some nurofen or robitussin we always feign ignorance and humour the chemist. People like to believe they're smart, and chemists are no exception - just play to them. As WormWood said, just walk in, look around, feign confusion and then go up to one of the employees/pharmacists and ask if they stock nurofen plus. It's always better to use the "it's for my mum" line, as it doesnt directly implicate you and means that you can umm-and-ahh in response to the tricky questions. E.g Pharmacist: "You know this is the strong one? What exactly do you want it for" Reply: "I dunno, it's for my mum. I think it's for backpains" Sometimes the chemists will like to wax lyrical about the various chemicals and whatnot and I just feign ignorance and humour them. Makes them happy that they've got something over you, makes you happy because you really know that you've just had one over them.
 
Wormwood ^^

Just the way you described a 'usual' visit to the chemist here is almost too close to my own experiences, it scares me!

Remember, larger boxes only make you want to dose more often, and you will be back for more before you can say the word Codeine!

I am still trying to kick my habit, it's hard, but the fact is it is just so simple to just say 'I have wisdom teeth which are causing me strong pain, should I try N plus? I've seen ads on the TV, they say it works for strong pain, like bad toothache?". *Hands over well earned money, and takes a 48 pack home to consume all night*. Easy. VERY EASY, :(

I am almost a week without any codeine or benzos! the bad news is I am constantly feeling sick, it's worse than if I had a flu or something:( Believe me , it's just no fun when you have to kick it.

I could have saved so much money.
 
This 400 mg 'plateau' has been mentioned a few times on here .. is there a reference for that?
 
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