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Dried opium powder
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rachamim
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Klowns: I am a HS Bully? After the kid Pmd me I though this was the end but I see the fun hasn't stopped.
Do youknow how old I am? By the way, I use my rela name topost, how did your mom convince the hospital to put Klown on your birth certificate? That must have been some conversation, right?
Look , I do not pick cyber fights. Since I use my rela nme, have pposted my actual adress here countless times, my employer and job site info, my army info, and so on I would have to be insane. I have already had internet tough guys try to get me evicted by calling Housing, etc. and yet I am alive.
Instead , I try to educate. This may seem like something from another universe to you but I sssure you it is quite painless. Instead of critiquing what you imagine my personality is like, try challenging facts I provide. I promise that this forum will be a much better place.
If you are able to comprehend what you read, you will see that the poster called me everyhting from "faggit" (sic) to "fuc#ing Jew" and he did not dot out part of the curse. I merely responded to his comments.
If you have a problem with flaming, then obviously you would have been apalled at whaat he did. Insrtead, using some cereal box name you try to antagonise me further. One can only imagine that you somehow receive gratification from such things.
Llake: Out of respect to the kid's PM, I will not demeanim further, maybe he just lost it for a bit. I tellyou this because I do not want him to think I still have it in for him because of what I say next:
Instead of asking for photrtos that do not prove anythin, you should ask for photos of the colored response on a field test or homemade Marquis aplied to the powder.
Truth is, one can fake that as well but at least it is better than an unsubstaniated claim, etc. Even were it to be opium, why would the man be selling Kilo plus bags at affordable prices? You and others are not really using common sense and that is the whole idea behind this site, for users to utilise their common sense.
Garuda: I wish I had customers when I used to see stuff. I would be rick right now. This is the net, that is why I use my real info. I wish for all people to be honest online and elsewhere. His being of the same ethnic group is really inconsequential. In NYC you can walk into a Chinese owned shop and buy dried pods of a few varieties no matter what you look like. Profit is profit, but then so is jail which makes a sane person consider why kilo plus bags of a highly illegal substance are being sold OTC to anybody with the same accent. it just does not add up.
Phrozen: On Khat, you sure can buy it nomatter your color. The thing is, they only have dried Khat in the States and it is relatively worthless. Interestingly, dried Khat is not yet illegal. Instead of persecuting a whole plant the govt. has decided to prosecute an alkaloid which degrades after harvest rather quickly.
Some might not trust a person of a different group but from personal expereince I have found that knowing what you are talking about combined with greenbacks works wonders.
Brainbug: Before you talk about "not proven" please at least, for your own integrity, do een a cursory search of this little site! I have provided many references opn it as well as others having done so. Seeds are absoltely devoid of ANY alkaloids. They can sometimes have a residual coating. It is not difficult to prove. All you have to do uis an assay on a wide control grup of seeds. It was done in the 19th Century so you indeed have some catching up to do.
I never try to sound cool. In fact, I try to sound the opposite. I use proper English and trust that people are at least intelligent enough to find out what soemthing means when they do not already know. Were I to talk ebonics and shuffle and jive, it would have zero to do with what I do and do not know. Try disputing the facts and not my personality.
Mulberryman: Did I not say that the only way you would have opiated hash was if a person opiated their own hash? Please read my post again, slowly.
I have been to Detroit and amazingly I did not see it as you portray it. I did not see cops only caring about locking up minorities.
Sicko: Placebos will also make people nod. Ever hear of junkies shooting cottons or even plain water? Anyway, from our talk you seem like an ok person, if still seeing things differently, so as I posted earlier here, all the matters is if it works for you.
Do youknow how old I am? By the way, I use my rela name topost, how did your mom convince the hospital to put Klown on your birth certificate? That must have been some conversation, right?
Look , I do not pick cyber fights. Since I use my rela nme, have pposted my actual adress here countless times, my employer and job site info, my army info, and so on I would have to be insane. I have already had internet tough guys try to get me evicted by calling Housing, etc. and yet I am alive.
Instead , I try to educate. This may seem like something from another universe to you but I sssure you it is quite painless. Instead of critiquing what you imagine my personality is like, try challenging facts I provide. I promise that this forum will be a much better place.
If you are able to comprehend what you read, you will see that the poster called me everyhting from "faggit" (sic) to "fuc#ing Jew" and he did not dot out part of the curse. I merely responded to his comments.
If you have a problem with flaming, then obviously you would have been apalled at whaat he did. Insrtead, using some cereal box name you try to antagonise me further. One can only imagine that you somehow receive gratification from such things.
Llake: Out of respect to the kid's PM, I will not demeanim further, maybe he just lost it for a bit. I tellyou this because I do not want him to think I still have it in for him because of what I say next:
Instead of asking for photrtos that do not prove anythin, you should ask for photos of the colored response on a field test or homemade Marquis aplied to the powder.
Truth is, one can fake that as well but at least it is better than an unsubstaniated claim, etc. Even were it to be opium, why would the man be selling Kilo plus bags at affordable prices? You and others are not really using common sense and that is the whole idea behind this site, for users to utilise their common sense.
Garuda: I wish I had customers when I used to see stuff. I would be rick right now. This is the net, that is why I use my real info. I wish for all people to be honest online and elsewhere. His being of the same ethnic group is really inconsequential. In NYC you can walk into a Chinese owned shop and buy dried pods of a few varieties no matter what you look like. Profit is profit, but then so is jail which makes a sane person consider why kilo plus bags of a highly illegal substance are being sold OTC to anybody with the same accent. it just does not add up.
Phrozen: On Khat, you sure can buy it nomatter your color. The thing is, they only have dried Khat in the States and it is relatively worthless. Interestingly, dried Khat is not yet illegal. Instead of persecuting a whole plant the govt. has decided to prosecute an alkaloid which degrades after harvest rather quickly.
Some might not trust a person of a different group but from personal expereince I have found that knowing what you are talking about combined with greenbacks works wonders.
Brainbug: Before you talk about "not proven" please at least, for your own integrity, do een a cursory search of this little site! I have provided many references opn it as well as others having done so. Seeds are absoltely devoid of ANY alkaloids. They can sometimes have a residual coating. It is not difficult to prove. All you have to do uis an assay on a wide control grup of seeds. It was done in the 19th Century so you indeed have some catching up to do.
I never try to sound cool. In fact, I try to sound the opposite. I use proper English and trust that people are at least intelligent enough to find out what soemthing means when they do not already know. Were I to talk ebonics and shuffle and jive, it would have zero to do with what I do and do not know. Try disputing the facts and not my personality.
Mulberryman: Did I not say that the only way you would have opiated hash was if a person opiated their own hash? Please read my post again, slowly.
I have been to Detroit and amazingly I did not see it as you portray it. I did not see cops only caring about locking up minorities.
Sicko: Placebos will also make people nod. Ever hear of junkies shooting cottons or even plain water? Anyway, from our talk you seem like an ok person, if still seeing things differently, so as I posted earlier here, all the matters is if it works for you.
I always enjoy reading your posts because I am assured it will be something of value and interest instead of useless fluff like most of the forum, but I think here you're just being too skeptical. Why would someone make this up? What is there to gain except exposing a immigrant shopowner to legal problems?
And that bag doesn't look like a kilo, it looks like a ounce or two to me. And he never said how much he paid for it, and there really is no evidence it is real actual opium. It could very well be ground pods who knows.
Every few years some Hmong immigrant farmers in the US are caught growing big fields of poppies that are scored, what are they doing with all that opium and poppy straw? I have no doubt its sold among their expat communities, probably below real market value.
And that bag doesn't look like a kilo, it looks like a ounce or two to me. And he never said how much he paid for it, and there really is no evidence it is real actual opium. It could very well be ground pods who knows.
Every few years some Hmong immigrant farmers in the US are caught growing big fields of poppies that are scored, what are they doing with all that opium and poppy straw? I have no doubt its sold among their expat communities, probably below real market value.
I'm not making anything up nor is it placebo I'm high off it rite now. This stuff is real. Wheter it is opium powder or opium poppy pod powder, most likely the latter its really really potent and i can feel the affects within 5 mins and they last for a good 5-6 hours. I'm going to go have a smoke. I'll be back tommarrow with some more goodies from the shop. I know we're not supposed to list prices but I got both bags for 20 as far the weight I havn't weighed it.
PS. I've done opium on serval occasions like I told you before my father, uncles, and other elders in the community love to enjoy opium the majority of them own large amounts of real estate throughout out Canada including rural Canada and when summer time comes they grow Opium on their property never have any of them had problem aswell my father grows opium on our property aswell as thier truck yard. So don't say I'm feelin placebo because placebo doesn't last hours and affect your abilty to eat aswell placebo doesnt mimic effect for effect and also taste and look the same.
PS. I've done opium on serval occasions like I told you before my father, uncles, and other elders in the community love to enjoy opium the majority of them own large amounts of real estate throughout out Canada including rural Canada and when summer time comes they grow Opium on their property never have any of them had problem aswell my father grows opium on our property aswell as thier truck yard. So don't say I'm feelin placebo because placebo doesn't last hours and affect your abilty to eat aswell placebo doesnt mimic effect for effect and also taste and look the same.
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Zagenth
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^ I'm not hating on the fact that you have the real deal. I don't know that one way or the other. But your opinions on placebo effects are completely wrong. If you are well versed in the normal effects of the drug, then a placebo effect can effectively mimic that dosage curve damn near exactly. Your brain is very implemental in how you experience a drug, and a placebo can feel exactly the same. I do not doubt your position, but I do doubt your disrespect for the placebo effect.
You very well could have the real thing, but don't throw out a placebo effect; it very well can produce the same effects.
You very well could have the real thing, but don't throw out a placebo effect; it very well can produce the same effects.
Zagenth said:^ I'm not hating on the fact that you have the real deal. I don't know that one way or the other. But your opinions on placebo effects are completely wrong. If you are well versed in the normal effects of the drug, then a placebo effect can effectively mimic that dosage curve damn near exactly. Your brain is very implemental in how you experience a drug, and a placebo can feel exactly the same. I do not doubt your position, but I do doubt your disrespect for the placebo effect.
You very well could have the real thing, but don't throw out a placebo effect; it very well can produce the same effects.
Yeah my bad placebo is a very powerful thing for example people with headaches automatically cure their headaches the very second they swallow some tynenol, like my mother haha. I also wanted to include that I doubt placebo could mimic tolerance, could it?
rachamim
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Uh, yes it can. Look, the human mind is amazing thing. People can will themselves into dying simply because they truly believe a person using witchcraft has cursed them. Look at Tantric methodology...look at sadhus...and many other things. Placebo Theory is wellfounded and studied continuosly. Tolerance is a physiologic process but as I just stated, the mind can effect your physiology so...
But...As I said...As long as you find it helps you,etc., that is all that matters.
But...As I said...As long as you find it helps you,etc., that is all that matters.
rachamim said:
Yes I've been high since 10:30 pm, it is now 7:30am. I've kept redosing every hour, this is not placebo, because I feel soo damn good and soo damn high. Man just give up it works for me and my friends. Are all of us experiencing a placebo affect? This is sold for the purpose of making tea and gettin high. Do you know how many people would have gone in there and beat the fuck out of the owners if this shit was fake trust me ALOT. This is also not the only stores theres a few and there always full of people (brown people, majority of them immigrants). Its called "dodaya de chaa" (poppy tea). Again people buy it and sell it for the sole purpose of getting high, not because they enjoy drinking some nasty tasting bunk powder. Honestly can you say everyone is fucking experiencing a placebo effect, are you sayin we're a bunch of retards or that placebo is automatically iniated when you consume some powder. This shits the real deal baby, get over it.
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phr
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If it's sold for the purpose of making tea, I'm more inclined to believe that it's ground up poppy pods as opposed to opium powder.
phr
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Yeah I read that in the original post. I was just picking the one I'm leaning towards.
Oh yeah alright, it's real convenient, potent, cheap compared to ordering pods off the internet. Usually I grow my pods but I missed the season as I was busy with school. Although its been raining for the past week here in Vancouver near the end of July haha it sucks but I bet I could plant some now and get away with it since we have a three more days of rain left.
danalprazolam
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i'm going to have my friend take me to one of these places. They shop there all the time for food. I'll see what I can find.
mulberryman
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^^^^ lolololoshitlolmypantslololol
I hesitate to ask, rachimim, what part of Detroit did u visit, certainly not Delray or Mack & Chalmers areas?? Downtown is completely different, The suburban bus system has buses that go there, and they lock their doors and won't stop between 8 Mile and Grand Blvd.
For anyone who doubts the alkaloid content of poppy seeds:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_testing.shtml
http://poppyseedtea.com/
http://www.poppies.org/2001/07/03/poppy-seed-bagels-and-urine-tests/
I hesitate to ask, rachimim, what part of Detroit did u visit, certainly not Delray or Mack & Chalmers areas?? Downtown is completely different, The suburban bus system has buses that go there, and they lock their doors and won't stop between 8 Mile and Grand Blvd.
For anyone who doubts the alkaloid content of poppy seeds:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_testing.shtml
http://poppyseedtea.com/
http://www.poppies.org/2001/07/03/poppy-seed-bagels-and-urine-tests/
CloudyHazeD
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My point is the seeds do not CONTAIN enough actives to do anything. But outside the seed itself can be a fair amount of actives.
The reason, as I stated before, you can get a buzz off seeds and the reason the kid ODed in the link you just posted, is due to residue on the OUTSIDE of the seeds.
Maybe saying the seeds contain zero alkaloids is semi-misleading, but you wont find any seed with more that 50ppm of seed weight worth of anything active and even that is probably just residual alkaloids showing up on the spectrometry.
here is a breakdown of what is IN a poppy seed:
(http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/Papa_som.html)
The reason, as I stated before, you can get a buzz off seeds and the reason the kid ODed in the link you just posted, is due to residue on the OUTSIDE of the seeds.
Maybe saying the seeds contain zero alkaloids is semi-misleading, but you wont find any seed with more that 50ppm of seed weight worth of anything active and even that is probably just residual alkaloids showing up on the spectrometry.
here is a breakdown of what is IN a poppy seed:
(http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/Papa_som.html)
phr
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The kid on poppyseedtea.com had a bunch of other shit in his system. Hydrocodone, THC, and aprazolam(Xanax) was also found in him. It doesn't say anything about alcohol, but who knows maybe it wasn't tested for.
I'm not saying it's impossible to OD on poppyseed tea, but I find it highly unlikely. He'd have to use kilo's of the seeds. Also, the site a little too overzealous, on the same page with oxyabusekills.com.
I'm not saying it's impossible to OD on poppyseed tea, but I find it highly unlikely. He'd have to use kilo's of the seeds. Also, the site a little too overzealous, on the same page with oxyabusekills.com.
mulberryman
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Yes, I agree that site is overzealous, but I ony posted it to show that the seeds do contain opiates, although not within them. They ususally do have opium residue on them, however, and saying that just because this is on the outside, that they don't contain opiates, is like saying that trees do not contain bark. It is possible to have opiate-free seeds, either if they've been washed in chemicals, which would probably seriously alter their flavor, and thus not usually done, or nearly opiate-free seeds, from pods that have been scraped well, and harvested for opium, but since seeds grown for culinary purposes are probably less likely to have been have been harvested for opium, its likely that these seeds will have traces of morphine and other opiates, and will cause positive results on drug tests if enough are consumed, and large quantities can be extracted en-mass to make opium tea or further evaporated into dried powder. I have even heard of people spraying seeds with morphine in order to smuggle it through customs, although I don't know how practical this woud be.
RorerQuaalude714
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^Hey mulberryman, if what you said on a previous post was true about opium in Detroit, I guess I'm going to have to take a hop over the Ambassador and check that shit out.
CloudyHazeD
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Trees don't contain bark :D
They are covered in bark.
Just as poppy seeds dont contain actives but have a residual covering of them.
They are covered in bark.
Just as poppy seeds dont contain actives but have a residual covering of them.