Amsterdam: Magic Mushrooms Banned!

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Of course that's going to happen. This will just drive the mushroom trade underground. That will surely lead to more problems. Not to mention upholding that law will be a waste of law enforcement services...
 
Just pikem urselves if ya really want them. I wonder if you can sue a company after having a bad trip? Reguardless i will never have shrooms again. Last time i was curled up in a fetal ball holding my nuts breathing heavily waiting for it to end. Haha good times.
 
dada said:
Just pikem urselves if ya really want them. I wonder if you can sue a company after having a bad trip? Reguardless i will never have shrooms again. Last time i was curled up in a fetal ball holding my nuts breathing heavily waiting for it to end. Haha good times.

Im sure there are miles is disclaimers and documents preventing them from getting in trouble
 
alphamonkey said:
its not about the facts... its about the agenda of the US

we don't outright ban aspirin because some dipshit goes braindead after railing 20 pills
the same applies to everything that is "potentially" dangerous ....some mental girl jumps off a ledge on shrooms, how dare the parents blame the mushrooms.... its shame.... this case really biolls my blood


every drug sold at the local streetcorner pharmacy has a list of possible side effects and brief overview of the effects and proper usage..... if the user is not responsible than any death resulting therafter lies solely with the user....period

sadly... dutch politicians have been bought and are kept nice and pacified in the pockets of american right....... no respect left for your sorry asses

bye bye tourism..... bye bye
It has nothing to do with the French goverment or the parents of the French girl who jumped from the viaduct, and it certainly has nothing to do with America. The reason it was banned was due the pressure of the media and a large part of the Dutch citizens.

center said:
Doesn't effect me. Good for Amsterdam in joining the century.

Are you kidding me? Bye tourism for placing psilocybin mushrooms as controlled?

Who gives a shit in all honesty? It effects probably 1% of the people here, even then only in their dreams.
It does effect me, as well as a lot of other people from the Netherlands, as well as other members of BL who like to go to the Netherlands and enjoy a portion of shrooms here. You dumb ignorant fuck. When I did shrooms I always bought them at a smartshop, I didn't dream about it, dumbass. Ow well, I still have the comfort of knowing you live in a country where you'll practically get executed if your caught in possesion of drugs, while I don't.

dnbmassive said:
ah that's horrible that's one of my main attractions to going! Go get some mexican cubensis, and go to Holland Cow's 3d movies, they have 3d alien attacks with moving chairs that go with the 3d adventure and on shrooms, wow, omfg

They also sell DMT there last time I went, I know they used to sell 2cb at smart shops and other RCs but I don't know it;s been 2 years since I've last lived there.

theyre prob still be a way, they have a place, I can't remember the streeet but they put shrooms ground up and put into hershey like candy bars that u can break off into pieces and one just one, gets 2 people FUCKED and is only around 15 euros or so, I bet that will still be available, oh, and they had skunk weed ground into chocolate, omfg, so good, and the space cakes, oh shit


a sad sad day.
They used to sell a Acacia(DMT containing herb) extract , but because it was a DMT containing preperation instead of a unprepared natural product, it was a offendment of the Opium law, so they did a huge bust on all smartshops in the Netherlands, all the Acacia extract was seized and some smartshops were closed for good due to vialation of the law. You can't get it anywhere anymore now. The era of selling psychedelic RC's at smartshops has been an even longer while ago, a decade or so since it was put on list 1. The only RC which has been sold in smartshops in the recent while was methylone, but has also been banned now.


rm2x said:
Why was a 17 year old GIRL sold mushrooms to begin with?
Cannabis is 18+, so why was'nt any ID asked for when the mushrooms were sold? Or are'nt there any age restrictions on mushrooms?
If not, then that's pretty bloody stupid and probably should be banned then.
You don't need a license to start a smartshop, or sell those products, that's why a lot of tourist shops also sell shrooms and why there isn't always age restriction on selling those products. Official smartshops take much more care in selling it, giving instructions and often only selling it to 18+ people. Unfortunenately the tourist shops are only out on making money, and sell it to anyone, and often don't have any knowledge of their products either. This is indeed a very dangerous thing, which should have been regulated from the start, instead the goverment still isn't doing anything against it. The sail of mushrooms by shops lacking expertise should be banned, not the sail of shrooms themselves.

GoddessLSD-XTC said:
There was an article in the New York Times a year or so ago stating that many people who were born in Holland were leaving because they didn't like all the immigrants. (I disliked the ones from Africa 'cause they were rude and selling bad drugs.)

The government is giving videos to all immigrants showing prostitutes and gay men telling them they must accept this in their society.

When I was there (and in London) I offended at least 5 Moslems 'cause of my prostitution and transsexualism.
You actually believe that? There certainly aren't many people leaving the Netherlands, they are much better of here than in practically any other country.

melange said:
do the dutch hate americans


because i dont hate the dutch
Yeah, a lot of them do, the things we see in the media about th US(The war of terror, bombing innocent people, their conservative christian goverment and often their ignorance), and ofcourse people like "center" don't make a nice image. I'm sorry for people like you who aren't broadminded and selfish and are the victim of fellow countrymen, but that's just generally the image we have of the US because of the rotten apples. If you are still going to visit the Netherlands though, I'm delighted you give you a nice stay here, and show you around and stuff. In that case PM me.

melange said:
Just pikem urselves if ya really want them. I wonder if you can sue a company after having a bad trip? Reguardless i will never have shrooms again. Last time i was curled up in a fetal ball holding my nuts breathing heavily waiting for it to end. Haha good times.
You can sue them, but it will result in nothing. We don't have that claim culture in the Netherlands fortunenately. If you plan on doing mushrooms than it's your own obligation to prepare for it as well as possible, and so you should know that it can turn out mentally nasty.
 
It's a shame. But the stuff you need to grow them will still be sold, so people who really want to trip can just grow them themselves easily with a growkit.
Also I've heard from two shopkeepers that they'll just move on to other drugs (research chemicals) to sell. They've sold 2C-B, 2C-T-2 and methylone in the past.

Maybe something good will fall out of it :)
Or if doesn't and people die all over the place from od'ing on unknown RC's, maybe the goverment will realize that mushrooms are actually a really safe drug, unlikely to be abused(can't say that about 2C-x's, methylone etc), they'll relegalize it.
 
They're banning mushrooms growing equipment at the same time when the new law takes effect, and I think mushroom spores will become illegal as well. The sale of research chemicals is just a threat to the goverment. A while ago, the smartshop branche made an agreement with the goverment not to sell any research chemicals in the future, and in return the goverment promised to keep mushrooms legal. Now the mushrooms are going to be banned, the goverment broke their promise, that's why the smartshops treathened to sell research chemicals in the near future.

I don't hope so though, cause it will only raise unwanted attention to at the moment still pretty unknown chemicals, which could lead to the ban of a whole list of research chemicals, and could possibly lead to a analogue act in the Netherlands, the last thing I want.
 
sorry for the bump but here is a bit of info


What is happening with the Magic Mushroom ban?


At the moment there are big discussions in the government on how to execute the new law.
Minister Klink (The Jerk behind the ban) assumed that the police would be in charge of executing the ban on magic mushrooms. But the minister in charge of the Police said that this is not possible because they have more important things to do. Then they were talking about maybe setting up special mushroom Police teams because, another politician says: we just don’t know enough about these mushrooms. Ok so NOW suddenly they say they don’t know anything about mushrooms, they did claim to know enough to ban them, so what’s that all about? And this is the government we are talking about, these people are supposed rule our country!?!

In Amsterdam, the smartshops are still selling magic mushrooms, as long as their supply will last. The Mayer of Amsterdam, Job Cohen, said that, for now, there wouldn’t be any consequences for those still selling magic mushrooms. He says that it is impossible to execute a law on such short notice and more clarity is needed on how to execute this law.

For as far as growkits go, we are not sure, but recent press releases says that they will not be included in this ban.
The reason for this is that people buying these growkits are doing this for private use. Because it takes around 3 weeks for the mushrooms to grow, it is not impulsive consumption of mushrooms. We do wonder how our suppliers are going to be able to make these growkits, as the law says you can’t cultivate them.


We anxiously await more details on this whole situation.
 
Minister Klink (The Jerk behind the ban) assumed that the police would be in charge of executing the ban on magic mushrooms. But the minister in charge of the Police said that this is not possible because they have more important things to do.

Yeah, 4 sure! -- GoddessLSD-XTC-Psilocybe
 
Good to know it isn't really being enforced yet. I'll be in Amsterdam for a few days this summer and I want nothing more than to eat a couple grams and spend a day in the Van Gogh museum :)
 
have none of you ever flipped out and done something insane and unpredictable while shrooming? now imagine someone much stupider than you shrooming. now imagine theyre in public, or driving, or doing othetr drugs too. its a scary thought.
No. Never. Not on any drug. Ditto for my friends.

...although I have seen a lot of people do stupid things while drunk.




erm... I am pretty sure there is/was an 18+ limit on shrooms in The Dam.



No drug is totally predictable and 'safe' is such a subjective word, it shouldn't really be used when talking about drugs either.

While I would like to state that I have never ever done anything dangerous on any drug, not have my friends, we take precautions.

I also know just how motivating a good dose of THE FEAR can be. In capitals for a reason. Long story short I went into my house where my mother was (fucking up my setting) and then out into the backyard and stepped in dog shit. I ran to the gangway gate and there was a moment where I felt like running for it.

So I know how hard it was for myself to calm myself down. And I did talk myself down and then later on after we left because the environment (mother) was giving us bad vibes, we got pulled over for a curfew check (young like 17) and I held it all together just fine. But that moment there man, it was intense.

It was utterly irrational, and half my brain was screaming 'run run run before she comes outside' and the other half is going 'shut the fuck up you are tripping this will be over in an hour or so' etc.

Now my mind is the most healthy and strong of anyone I know. If it was that hard to push the fear back for an experienced psychonaut who prepares set, setting, and soforth then imagine how hard it would be for a drug virgin to push away the fear.

Mushies have a dark edge man, they have a PUSH to them.

But I love them anyways. Shame this, I rather wanted to trip there some time without having to find a connec in a country whose language I don't speak.
 
NEWS of the mushroom ban dating of mid-april 2009 ??

Any dutch-cosmic-explorer on line ??

How is the implementation of the mushroom ban now ??

Is there always hawaian available ??

Do philosopher stone concerned by the ban ??

What about san pedro, do the ban made all the crops sold out ??

THANKS for ANSWER - A south pacific boy planning to trip in holland soon
 
This isn't the place to ask for that, legal or not. Please stay on topic. -phrozen
 
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this is horrible news, ive heard rumors but im sad to find out they are true. im planning to go to Amsterdam in Nov. for (or so ive heard) the FINAL CANNABIS CUP.

i was hoping to get a few boxes of mushies while i was there and trip some balls. oh well :(
should still be a kick ass trip. ive also heard theyv been cracking down and closing cafe's where you can get herbs and shit. is this true?
 
mushrooms shouldnt be illegal... they are one of the most natural drugs in the world and they grow out of the ground where i live 4 fucks sake how can u make them illegal. ur right i dont think people could wind up addicted to mushrooms...
 
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