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Ad seen 'NZ Herbals' "now available in Australia" wtf?

no worries. You weren't arrogant. the pills can be enjoyable. Its all about finding the right ones. or the right combination.
 
why is l-tryptophen is better than 5htp?
so dark angles are not good ca anyone compare them to the "good stuff" pills
I was thinking about getting some Mash,devils or JAX any advice?
 
Well, right pills is upto personal preference. Depends what your looking for. I always thought the euphoria from mdma feals fake, or reasonless. Still love that 'lovey' fealing though. So I was never that disapointed with what these pills offered. Mainly the spiels by the company were exagerated. But the music enhancement from md was always sweeeet. Same with acid, music enhancement even sweeeeter. So I take every (party) pill looking for three things, in this order.

Music enhancemt - happiness/anxiolytic effects - psychedelic perspective or visuals.

But I've found about every 1 out of 5 people I've had these with have an unusually high tolerence to piperazines. Despite age or size.

Anyway I g2g so i'll post back later.

I have found tryptophen to be better in that I just feel better now that I'm taking it instead of 5-htp. hard to explain, just feels a bit smoother. maybe the body doesn't like skipping the conversion to 5htp.
 
I had 2 Dark Angel pills, one at 9:00 the other at 10:00. I started to feel the effects at 11:00 which was 2 hours after the first pill. I ate beforehand so maybe that’s why.

The effects were mild at best. I noticed a slight lift in mood, I was more talkative and I felt a bit heavy like dancing was too much effort. These pills are alright if you want to sit down and talk otherwise don't bother. I also felt very slight nausea the whole night. There were also some very mild closed eye visuals, basically unnoticeable. I felt pretty worn out the next day but not too bad. I didn't bother taking the 'recovery pills'.

I drunk water the whole night.

Stick to MDMA, these do not compare.
 
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I also had 2 of those 'x extreme energy pills' last week. Nothing special at all. They are basically No-Doz but better.
 
chopped_chimp said:
^^^Why didn't you take the recovery pills?
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There was almost no comedown at all so I didn't bother. Next time I have MDMA i might take the recovery pills.
 
i still want some idea what mash and twisted pills are like.
anyone?
haven't hear any bad reports about the good stuff yet
 
I'd take the recovery pills anyway. As well as helping your comedown, they also aid in repairing some of the damage the chemicals did to your brain.

Maybe this is why everyones getting bad comedowns over BZP?
 
chopped_chimp said:
I'd take the recovery pills anyway. As well as helping your comedown, they also aid in repairing some of the damage the chemicals did to your brain.

Maybe this is why everyones getting bad comedowns over BZP?
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The comedown for me was so minimal... infact it was probably just lack of sleep.
 
tadfish said:
i still want some idea what mash and twisted pills are like.
anyone?
haven't hear any bad reports about the good stuff yet
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Hi, I can't let this comment go without being addressed.

I try to be impartial with these things but if you asked around in NZ you'd hear that GOOD STUFF are generally regarded as not being so hot - the problem lies in the dosage being around 80mg bzp to 40mg tfmpp, so one pill is a reasonable body load, but taking just one is not quite as "high" as you could be, however, escalating the dosage to more than one pill (remember they are in packs of 40) puts you into a space where you've had too much TFMPP, reports of vomitting are common, the support formula is minimal and these pills were sold as "$2 dancepills" which didn't impress anybody - a lot of retailers refuse to stock them.
 
3 x Dark Angels
2 x Recovery Pills
3 x Xtreme Energy pills

The packaging reads the ingredients as:

Dark Angels: 105mg BZP, 120mg additional Piperazine & antioxidant booster, also contains phenylalanine.

Recovery Pills: Vitamins B, C & E, Amino acids, 5-htp (rumour I heard is that the 5-htp dose is 500mg, which is a hefty whack of it if true :S).

Xtreme Energy Pills: Amino Acid Blend, Vitamin B complex, green tea, Cayenne Pepper, Piperazine blend, Vitamin C, Magnesium, minerals, ginkgo, phenylalanine.
 
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2 questions I do have though is, are these pills in any way cross tolerant with MDxA (given the fact that they are "replacement ecstasy" and even come with recovery 5-htp pills)? and do they deplete serotonin levels at all?
 
He|ix said:
Recovery Pills: Vitamins B, C & E, Amino acids, 5-htp (rumour I heard is that the 5-htp dose is 500mg, which is a hefty whack of it if true :S).
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I think 5HTP content will be closer to 50mg.
 
^^ You would want to hope so! I know people who struggle to not chunder after only 200mg.

Another reason for me asking if these pills are cross-tolerant wityh MDxA comes from this line..

"There are animal studies indicating that it blocks the putative neurotoxic effects of MDMA and possibly the enactogenic effects as well."

Sourced from: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/piperazines/piperazines_info1.shtml
 
starboy said:
I think 5HTP content will be closer to 50mg.
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I just found this on the relevant website regarding the "recovery pills"

"You receive 12 x 500mg 5-HTP and mega vitamin capsules.

Dosage: Take 3 caps and drink plenty of water prior to bed."

Surely that's a typo.. 3 x 500mg 5-htp pills. 1500mg of 5-htp, that's absolutely insane! Makes me think there's something a little dodgy about this company :S

Also, one of my earlier questions has been answered, this website says that these do deplete serotonin.
 
Beware marketing bumf and tricky wording - the total weight of the capsule is 500mg, including the vitamins and fillers.
 
i spent some time in NZ in 2005 and consumed quite a few BZP pills. Like just about everyone that has reported back on them, i have to say they have the worst come down of anything that i have ever consumed.
 
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