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Phenethylamines [2C-E Subthread] Comparisons to Other Substances

In my experience with 2C-E, I have run the gamut of the psychedelic experience just about ! Usually, my 2C-E trips are on par with that Xorkoth says about it: logical and analytical. But this one has surprises ! For me it does anyways. I have had moments of hysterical gut wrenching laughter ala mushroooms on it, I've mad moments of LSD-style time slowing confusion, It's helped me explore my emotions, albeit in a distant and detached way, not like MDMA...

But, all I will say is that yes 2C-E might be cold and analytical, but it is also a multifaceted, unpredictable, well rounded, multi purpose, nice and friendly but watch out because it can turn around and bite you in the ass psychedelic. Be prepared for surprises if you ingest any amount of 2C-E, this one truly puts something on the table for all of us explorers of human consciousness.

2C-E can really be two faced. I've had moments of sheer muscle tension agony, and other trips at higher doses, I've had moments of full body orgasmy bliss. I've had intense mental trips with not a lot of visuals, I've had intensely visual trips without a lot of mental performance. I've had both. If you take too much 2C-E too often in a familiar setting, be prepared for it to become boring. If you do a bit of 2C-E every now and then in a totally trippy environment, it will start rearing its head in all kinds of places you wouldn't expect.

2C-E is hands down one of my favorite psychedelics of all time, alongside LSD, 4-XX-DMT and it's various forms, natural or synthetic, and 2C-T-7.
 
I had felt this effect from a number of serotonin/dopamine drugs. Once, I ground up 8 grams of mushrooms and stirred it into organge juice. I chugged it down, and then in like 20 minutes i felt the urge to shit quite intensely.

This has happened with amphetamines as well.
 
2c-e vs. LSD what do you guys think, especially when it comes to "life changing experiences"?

I've got a bunch of both (relatively) and am still not sure which one I should take first, guess it's a good problem to have :D. Leaning towards LSD atm because I'm using Grof's psychotherapy book with it...

Tripping tommorow 8o
 
Many people find 2C-E "deeper" than LSD but I like LSD a lot more than 2C-E. Everyone's different of course.

They both have good capacity to cause a transformative experience. Take whichever one you're leaning towards. LSD is a fine choice. :)
 
So I've acquired 2 doses of 15mg of 2c-e. A friend and I are planning to take it around 10-11am this coming Thursday.

We both have experience with Mushrooms..I have only done it twice, he has done it a few times, but I am not sure if the doses he has taken were enough to give him visuals.

Here's what we have planned.

Go to my moms house (she already knows about 2c-e because I talked to her about it today), and we are going to take it and wait out the comeup there. If there is any nausea involved, we will have a bathroom and a place to cleanup. Next, when we are feeling fine, my mom has agreed to take us to the dam to walk around and enjoy nature. She has told me if I am going to be using anything, she prefers that she is with me to make sure I am safe. Gotta love her! <3

I figure if she is there with us, she can talk to us, and if anything becomes too overwhelming or we begin to feel sick, she can take us back to her house to calm down.

Any suggestions on making d-day better? ;)

Pics of where we are going:

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Any and all suggestions are welcome.

Thanks!
 
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That's nice of your mom. :)

15mg isn't a very high dose but it could be strong. Everyone's different and some people do have strong experiences with doses like that. Are there going to be a lot of people there? I find when tripping I like to be outside in nice places but I also like it to be quiet with few people. Having a lot of "sober" strangers around can be unnerving.

Here's the Big&Dandy Set and Setting Thread :)
 
We (my boyfriend and I) had our first 2C-E trip ever yesterday afternoon. Very interesting!! Had 15mg, which I understand is a moderate oral dose? Nothing too crazy.

We are very seasoned LSD trippers and lurrrrve our acid. At the beginning of the trip (say, T+3 hours?) we were SO SEDATED 8o It was so ridiculously heavy, rather astounding actually. We were sprawled on the couch completely unable to move for a good solid hour. Is this normal?! I also had a physical skin-crawling sensation, which felt amazing to be massaged. It was similar to the opiate-itches actually!

Anyway, after about an hour of lounging around on the couch we forced ourselves up for a cup of strong coffee, which helped to wake us up a bit.
SO SEDATING THOUGH!! We were actually saying that we'd probably not bother taking 2C-E ever again purely because the sedatory effect was so undesirable. I kept saying "What are we getting out of this drug? What's the point?". Does anyone know what I mean? I like to actually get something out of a trip...

At the beginning of the trip the visuals were very reminiscent of 2C-B, everything was sharp and bright. During the peak though, the visuals were very similar to a good dose of LSD, so I will say it compares well in that respect. We had no mind-fuck inclinations whatsoever (which I don't usually get on LSD anyway, but my boyfriend sometimes gets stuck in "loops of thinking"). But I found the mind-load was minimal.

The nausea was slightly more severe than with LSD but still quite manageable. I suffer a LOT from psych nausea, and my boyfriend never does. But with the 2C-E he was very nauseated, it actually brought him down quite a bit and he needed to take some metaclopromide which helped a little. I'm totally used to the nausea though and didn't even need any metaclopromide on 2C-E.

All in all by the end of the trip we decided we would actually do it again, now that we know what to expect with the sedation at the beginning of the trip.

NoxNoctum said:
2c-e vs. LSD what do you guys think, especially when it comes to "life changing experiences"?
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The only thing "life-changing" about my 2C-E trip yesterday was the crazy drug sex and resulting orgasm.
Number 1, best orgasm of my life, that's it, game over, THE BEST.
 
ChemWizard, just wanted to say that you described 2C-E very damn well in my opinion. You gotta be sure your dose is right tho, if you pointlessly dabble in lower doses while using it too often, in familiar settings, the boredness will come on even faster. You mention most of this, just felt like putting emphasis on it.

if you're taking 15mg the sniff or IM it or youll be very dissapoined
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what? what the hell are you talking about lmao
 
^ phatass: Nah, I disagree.

I've had trips in the 10-12 mg range that were far more intense than any of my trips in the 14-16 mg range. It just depends on your frame of mind when you take the drug.

One thing that will ensure more constructive and stimulating psychedelic experiences is to pay heed to your body & mind's need for rest, especially when it comes to a chemical that isn't quite as inherently stimulating, like 2C-E.

Remember, as a general rule, psychedelics are simply going to amplify the present state of mind. That's how they work.
 
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Once I rectally administered 8 mgs 2C-E several hours before I had to go to work in a kitchen. When I got to work I was so stimulated and shaky and kind of scared. But I managed to get through it somehow. I just made my mind focus on what had to be done. It was fucking torture though. Every second dragged by, there was shitty loud bar music blaring, and people bugging me to make food and shit. I remember every time I had to bend down to open the oven, I would feel my leg muscles stretch and that was about the only nice thing about my night. As soon as my night was over I went home and smoked like 4 or 5 grams of weed or something.

This dosage wasn't tooo strong when i as at work, but as soon as I was in a stressful environment, it was QUITE noticeable.

I did not repeat such careless ingestion of psychedelic drugs ever again after this incident. Funny to think about now though.
 
uniter said:
That's nice of your mom. :)

15mg isn't a very high dose but it could be strong. Everyone's different and some people do have strong experiences with doses like that. Are there going to be a lot of people there? I find when tripping I like to be outside in nice places but I also like it to be quiet with few people. Having a lot of "sober" strangers around can be unnerving.

Here's the Big&Dandy Set and Setting Thread :)
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There is a small picnic area, along with a place where a lot of people swim at. I'm expecting there to be quite a few people if it's nice, but it's easy to stay away from them.
 
phatass said:
if you're taking 15mg the sniff or IM it or youll be very dissapoined
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We're thinking of insufflating it next time. Definitely wouldn't go over 15mg though, in fact it'd be more like 8-10mg I reckon.
 
nearjat said:
what? what the hell are you talking about lmao
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I'm talking from personnal experience....;) at raves, parties, at home, with friends... i like to trip hard anyway, but i'll IM up to 40mg... and consumed over 100mg's over a 24 hour period, actually i got throught 800mg in 12 days about... and the quality of the product is perfect i just like extrememe feelings
 
LSD is much more pushy to me. more emotional, more confrontation etc.
2CE feels like observing myself from a neutral point of view. Can be as deep and frightening as LSD, but it's not the same game at all. ;)
 
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