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Phenethylamines [2C-E Subthread] Comparisons to Other Substances

Ive tried 2ci and 2ct2. but I read several times that 2ce is more "psychedelic" can anyone elaborate? I recently ordered some and am curious as what to expect. seing as 2ct2 was such a let down with the psysical side effects and all..
 
Ive tried 2ci and 2ct2. but I read several times that 2ce is more "psychedelic" can anyone elaborate? I recently ordered some and am curious as what to expect. seing as 2ct2 was such a let down with the psysical side effects and all..
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I wouldn't say that it's more psychedelic.

For me, it doesn't open my mind like LSD does. In fact, half the time I don't realize Ethyl is showing me things about myself until after the fact or during.

For example, my last trip I was very vividly imagining my friends all concerned about me and trying to calm me down cause I was freaking them out at a party (I was tripping alone, this is my imagination). It was during this that I realized Ethyl was showing me my attention seeking behavior; and also showing me the fantasy world I can sometimes slip into.

The thoughts I get on 2C-E don't come as great revelations either; they are more like wisdoms and truths that I will mull over for days, weeks, months afterwards.

The visuals are spectacular though! =D

If you want a more classic psychedelic experience, LSD may be for you. I've also heard 2C-B and 2C-I are more psychedelic.
 
Hmm, I'd say that 2C-B and 2C-I aren't anywhere near as psychedelic as 2C-E. For me, 2C-E has the capability to totally deconstruct reality on a fundamental level and awaken me into "godhood". But everyone is affected differently.

I find it odd that you say 2C-E isn't very psychedelic... I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that before.
 
What dose of 2C-E have you taken, Mr. Blonde? And, compared to LSD, I don't find the visuals that pleasing, the audio hallucinations and accelerated thought are my favorite aspects.
 
Hmm, I'd say that 2C-B and 2C-I aren't anywhere near as psychedelic as 2C-E. For me, 2C-E has the capability to totally deconstruct reality on a fundamental level and awaken me into "godhood". But everyone is affected differently.

I find it odd that you say 2C-E isn't very psychedelic... I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that before.
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Well, keep in mind that I haven't managed to experience a ++++ yet! ;) I'm sure that kind of experience would change my mind!

It definitely is a psychedelic substance, and maybe it's just the way it affects me, but as I said for the most part of the experience my thoughts seem to be normal, and as I listen to some music and watch the gorgeous visuals unfold before me, it's like I will suddenly see that my normal thought patterns are being 'showed' to me by Ethyl, and then I start to analyze them more.

As opposed to my experiences with LSA and LSD, where my mind seemed to be 'freed' from it's normal constraints and I could realize so many different concepts and points of view that I would normally have trouble accepting. Those two chemicals seem to me they would be easier to use if I wanted to easily make changes in my life, whereas with 2C-E, as I said before, it gives me little pearls of wisdom that may take some time to completely unravel.

In terms of visuals though, then it's very psychedelic. I can't quite describe the feeling I had gazing out into my backyard and seeing a tree made up of many naked writhing people, and watching clouds transform into giant fantastic beasts! =D

What dose of 2C-E have you taken, Mr. Blonde? And, compared to LSD, I don't find the visuals that pleasing, the audio hallucinations and accelerated thought are my favorite aspects.
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Another example of how we all get affected differently! :)

The visuals for me are my favorite part of the experience, but I haven't experienced that much in the way of audio hallucinations yet. The most I've gotten in that department is lying in bed at the end of the experience, trying to sleep but unable to, and every now and then a large kick drum will go off right in front of my face! =D

Scared the shit out of me the first time it happened. :)

I take 20mg orally, which is working for me right now. I've also snorted 10mg, but I didn't like that experience, I much prefer oral. :\

I find that I usually get more affected by a substance then other people, and tripping with a friend on one occasion seemed to prove that it stands true with 2C-E as well, so I'll be careful before I ever move up in dosage.

I guess what I would say to diche is this:

2C-E can give you the most amazing visuals you've ever had, and in that respect I'd say it's very psychedelic. In terms of what happens in your mind though, it's a completely different head space compared to LSD. For me, it's like being completely sober but along the journey, Ethyl will show me little bits and pieces of my personality and I hold on to these teachings to ponder over after the trip is done.

So if you want amazing visuals...2C-E ftw.
If you want a more 'in-your-face' psychedelic head space, then another substance could work for you. Be prepared to work for what you take out of a trip with 2C-E.
 
so, if i am right, 2c-e is unscheduled in canada, you take it orally and its got an MDMA feeling to it sometimes seeing as it was the "replacement" for ecstasy when it became illegal(i think)

anything else i should know(i know duration effects etc.)
 
^^ 2C-E is nothing like an ecstacy replacement whatsoever. It's highly psychedelic... some say moreso than LSD. Personally I have had much more intense experiences on it than on LSD.

Anyone who says it's a replacement for ecstacy has maybe only tried it once and had a low dose. Or something. To me it feels absolutely nothing whatsoever like ecstacy... it can actually be kind of uncomfortable, but it's a fantastic psychedelic.

It is unscheduled though.
 
I agree with Xorkoth. There is nothing similar between 2C-E and MDMA as far as subjective effects go. Nowhere near a replacement. 2C-E lasts 8-12 hours.
 
Inspired by the recent LSD vs Mescaline thread...

How would you guys compare 2c-e to LSD and mescaline - is 2c-e more similar to LSD, or is it more similar to mescaline? It would obviously help if you have tried all 3 (I haven't).

Edit: I am wondering specifically about the experience and not the chemistry.
 
Oldchild said:
Inspired by the recent LSD vs Mescaline thread...

How would you guys compare 2c-e to LSD and mescaline - is 2c-e more similar to LSD, or is it more similar to mescaline? It would obviously help if you have tried all 3 (I haven't).

Edit: I am wondering specifically about the experience and not the chemistry.
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Just curious what good it will do if you haven't? Though some contest this, I find 2C-E more intense than LSD. Mescaline I have never done, but 2C-E and mescaline should be more similar than LSD just because of its chemical structure. Mescaline and 2C-E being phenethylamines, and LSD being a tryptamine (I know what you requested).
 
and its got an MDMA feeling to it sometimes seeing as it was the "replacement" for ecstasy when it became illegal(i think)
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You might be thinking of 2C-B; the Erowid page on that substance says that it became popular as an MDMA substitute.
 
If I was to say 2C-E was like any drug, it would be LSD I think. However, its completely different, just shares some of the cold-steel of acid to me.
 
As strange as this sounds... i was able to communicate with my cat directly on 2c-e... i remember noticing that my ear was sending out this really low vibrations... and i noticed the cat picked up on them. one of them terrified him and he slashed at my face, lol.

It was like having a familiar.

2c-e = very much like lsd, in fact the visuals are of the same nature, except in overdrive, except FIRST i find you have to MAKE "the spoon bend"
 
I suppose if I were to compare 2C-E with any psychedelic, I'd agree with the LSD comparison. They both have a similar deep and cosmic feel to them, and are similar in their level of psychedelia. However, I find 2C-E to be a neutral, unemotional, clear-headed and easily integratible experience. With LSD, emotions tend to be highly involved, as well as being more confusing. 2C-E is more "directive" whereas LSD is more "explosive". 2C-E also causes me to be extremely attuned to energy, more so than any other psychedelic I've done, although I have not yet tried mescaline.

Of course the LSD experience is still very different than that of 2C-E.
 
yeah, 2C-E is very comparable to LSD in terms of length of experience, profoundness/insight, visuals. But they have fundamental differences. It's like....you can tell how psilocybin and LSD are different but in the same chemical family...well, 2C-E and LSD are similar, but in different chemical families, and it's easy to tell the difference between them if you have taken both. I do think that 2C-E is WAY more felt in the body than LSD, in terms of energy, come up craziness, muscle twitching, stuff like that.
 
^I don't find them similar at all. Mescaline usually lasts a few hours longer, and is much more gentle and colorful. 2C-E has much more a "grayish" neutral mindset to it. I find mescaline to be one of the most emotional psyches, while 2C-E is probably the least emotional.
 
Last time I did 2C-e it gave me hallucinations which were very very similar to those you get after staying up 3 nights doing meth. I would look at a forest and see people appearing and disappearing, etc.
 
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