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☛ Official ☚ [2C-E Subthread] 2C-E Storage and Solubility

SWIM recently (about 2 weeks ago) got 125 mg of 2c-e in a small bag from an online pharmaceutical vendor.

Is it ok to just keep it in that bag for now stored in a dark drawer in a room kept at about 73 degrees year round or should SWIM go ahead and mix it into some distilled water and store it in the fridge?
 
Yeah, it's best to just keep the baggie in a dry and cool place. Dissolving it is fine too, 2C's are stable, even in solution.

Things are usually more stable as a dry powder though.

Who the heck is SWIM? I think you're talking about yourself. ;) We just use "I" on BL. :)
 
I have to disagree on that, at least, 2c-e is stable. After 1 year, stored in normal water, and ddc(dry, dark, cool) it had lost a lot of its visual attributes. Very peculiar tbh.
 
What about storing that liquid solution in that same drawer? (that's how I'm gonna measure it when I dose in 2-3 weeks) Is refrigeration necessary?

I just don't want my parents to see this weird bottle in the fridge. They know what I'm up to but don't want to "know". Kind of a don't ask don't tell situation.
 
How long does 2C-E keep in aqueous solution? Is it alright to use tapwater?
 
It's better not to if you live in a city, with chlorine and all. Is it really that hard to obtain spring water or distilled water? or a bottle of vodka?

As far as stability in non-chlorinated water; yeah it should be fine.
 
It's my first time on 2C-E and I'll be taking 5mg rectally with about 3 caps of 100mg MDMA to taste as the night goes on (possibly also rectally. It'd be my first time plugging anything). (I've only got a .1g scale so I'll be dissolving ~200mg in 40mL of water. I don't want to risk taking much more because of the imprecise nature of the scale).

I'm going to put a weight on the scale, tare and then add powder until it reads .2g. Would stopping as soon as the scale rolls over to .2g mean that there is ~.15-.16g on the scale? Would it be more like .175+ or so? I know it's not going to be that accurate and I can't really know but what I'm getting at is it will be less than .2g but more than .15g, right?

So if I dissolved the result in 30mL of water I'd get [2C-E] = 5 - 7mg/mL (from between .15g and .2g powder). Assuming rectal dosing is 2x the potency of oral, that's a good dose to start with right?

I ordered a mg scale about 11 days ago but it's taking its sweet fucking time getting here.
 
NoxNoctum - the 2c-e will be fine in a cool dark place. I have had 2c-e in both powder and solution from the same batch that has lasted over a year and a half with no noticeable loss of potency. Leaving it in the bag is fine, but if you are worried about your parents and would prefer them to stumble upon a bottle of liquid rather than a bag of white powder, the solution will be stable as well. No need to keep it any cooler than room temperature... unless you're trying to store it for multiple years.

Enjoy. :D
 
so if i were to get 500mg of 2ce and dissolve it into probably 250 ml of vodka. how long would that keep for? it would be stored probably room temperature in a dry place. i don't know what i would be storing it in though. this seems to be my only option for dosing as i don't have access to an accurate enough scale and will not be purchasing one anytime soon as i don't plan on really getting into rcs atm.

what works best for dosing from liquid measurement in such small quantities of mL's? and where would i be able to find such device?

and would this be the ideal thing for me to do in my situation?
 
It would last a very long time; things last longer in dry crystals but 2C-E is pretty stable and your alcohol solution should last for a while but I can't give any numbers. Dry 2C-E would last longer than a lifetime.

I'm a fan of 10mg/mL solutions. It's easy because every 0.1mL is 1mg of substance. You can measure it with a needle-less syringe. You can easily get an oral syringe from a pharmacy. Just draw up the desired amount, put it in a glass, mix with a bit of water and slug it down. :)
 
yeah i'd keep it in powdered form if i had access to an accurate scale but since i don't i figure the best thing to do would be to make a solution out of the whole 500mg that way i know how much i'm dissolving
 
2C-E Dosing and Solubility

SWIM is ordering 500 milligrams of 2C-E. SWIM does not trust any of the triple point scales SWIM can afford and is contemplating buying a triple point scale and dosing out 15 milligram doses and seeing whether or not the triple point scale is accurate and weighs out (500/15=) 33.33 doses of 15 milligrams out of 500 milligrams. The risk is wasting a large sum of money on a scale without knowing whether or not it is accurate which is of EXTREME importance. A more accurate way that SWIM believes to dose the 2C-E would be to separate the 500 milligrams into 50 millilitres. 500/50=10 milligrams per millilitre. SWIM could then accurately dose out half a millilitre increments which contain 5 milligrams to make doses of 10 milligrams=1 millilitre, 15 milligrams=1.5 millilitres and 20 milligrams=2 millilitres. SWIM is looking for opinions on triple point scales, whether there are any simple ways to confirm a scale is accurate to the triple point by weighing something on it in the store. SWIM is also wondering about the solubility of 2C-E. What is it soluble in? Water? Alcohol? How long is 2C-E stable in different solutions? Should it be refrigerated? Frozen? Left at room temperature? If 2C-E is soluble, will it last long, or will it break down quickly?
Thanx for any input
 
delta_9 said:
If you're concerned about the accuracy of your scale buy a set of weights to calibrate it.

SWIM appreciates your help. The one thing SWIM is concerned about is whether calibration weights are accurate to the triple point. SWIM will check those links, and is very appreciative for the positive direction.
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Well I understand but at some point you just have to trust the product you've bought. If you're concerned that the scale and the weights will be off then why aren't you worried that the 2c-e is impure? See my point? IMO the quality standards for a scale and calibration weights are much higher than some powder from an RC vendor(If that is indeed where it's from).

At any rate, a mg or 2 + or - is not gonna be as serious as it would be with something like a DO* compound.

There's no need for "SWIM" btw.
 
Totally understood. Any opinion on using the scale method or the solubility method? Assuming the product is of 99.9% purity is either method more accurate or are there too many variables? Solubility would be more precise as a higher known dose could be highly diluted leading one to believe solubility to be the more accurate method. Any thoughts?
 
Liquid dosing is definitely much easier as you really only have to weigh once. I like to use a 75% dh2o and 25% ethanol to inhibit bacterial/fungal growth. If kept in the fridge this solution will last you for years, just make sure to have it labeled clearly
 
Perfecto! I'm rather new to forums, and online vendors, so I appreciate your guidance and respect. I mean Swim does.... anyways thanks. Your quick response could help save lives, and I highly recommend this forum. I have not used it very extensively, but I am very impressed. Thanks a lot.
 
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