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☛ Official ☚ [2C-E Subthread] 2C-E Storage and Solubility

I have had poorly stored 2C-E turn yellowish, still got me off good but I’m not sure if it lost original potency. My experience with 2C-E are the same as a couple of people above me said, the same amount affects me different every time. I usually do 18-20mgs (anymore my though train gets speedy) sometimes the universe unfolds and blows me away and other times it is just a nice little ride. I am starting to wonder if how far my trips are spaced has something to do with it the deep ones seem to be when I haven’t had any in a few months.
 
^ I don't see why not, I personally think that liquid measurement is just as important with 2C-E as it is for DOx substances. If you are concerned about degradation and don't plan to be storing the liquid for too long, distilled water might be a better choice.
 
Alcohol should keep it more stable than water if just because it will prevent any sort of organic growth (like bateria and mold). In a cold place away from light, most phenethylamine salts are quite stable, including the 2C-X class. They're stable in water also, aside from possible growth of contaminants.
 
anybody know if 2c-e is okay to dissolve in orange juice? This isn't for storage, but I've had a few people tell me that the body load has been less when they've taken it in a liquid solution instead of the dry powder in a gel cap. Could I dissolve it in anything, or will orange juice be too acidic and destroy the 2c-e?
 
I don’t think the acidic orange juice will destroy 2C-E in that short amount of time. I have tried lemon juice before and it dissolved well and worked well but it seemed to increase the acidic stomach problems for me so I don’t use it anymore, the lemon juice covered a lot of the chemical taste though. When I have 2C-E I dissolve my doses in a shot of warm water seems like most of it dissolves after I stir it a little, a chaser tastes good afterwards.
I like liquid solution more then gel caps, seems faster and smoother (not that 2C-E comes on fast).
 
Using water is just fine... I'm sure orange juice would also work. 2C-E is quite stable. I wouldn't store it in orange juice, but you've already said you aren't.

Some people won't use this method, but if you aren't squeamish, might I recommend rectal dosing of 2C-E? It reduces the body load by a lot in my experience, and reduces the dose to about half, maybe a bit more, and makes it come up faster. It's overall a cleaner experience. This is actually true with almost any psychedelic.

This aside, when I take things orally, I never use gel caps anymore. I always dissolve it in water and drink it down. It comes on faster and more evenly this way.
 
I've dissolved 2C-I, 2C-T-2 and 2C-B in OJ and think it can help reduce the body load, because your body gets the chemical a bit more gradually rather than having a gell cap explode in your stomach. The antioxidants in the OJ certainly won't hurt either. Its been said that part of the body load is simply your body's way of alerting you to the fact that a foreign psychoactive substance has been introduced into the system, which would make sense from an evolutionary perspective.

As for benadryl, its hard to say. When I take it by itself I find it can make me feel strange and uncomfortable so I don't know if I'd want to mix it on top of 2C-E. I'd also take any information from the Hip Forums with a big grain of salt, and try to corroborate it elsewhere first.

HipForums said:
Dramamine and benadryl do work, but they make you sleepy even when you're tripping on 2c-e, as 2c-e also has a kind of sedative effect in some cases. The sedative effects of 2c-e and dramamine/benadryl combined make for one sleepy ass trip, but that could also add to the visuals. The first time I tripped on 2c-e I had already eaten about 500mg of diphenhydramine and about 16mg of xanax and also a pint of bacardi and an assortment of other pills, so the deleriant effects, along with the xanax and the alcohol and the 2c-e was a crazy mix. I took a lot of 2c-e that time though, because I dipped my finger in the bag and scooped out some powder, then I repeated, scooping out even more powder.
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Harm reduction at its best. 8)
 
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dorothyperkins said:
166 mg eh? lol! if its a good scale, i'd do a mixture, weigh out 5 x 25 mg caps and dissolve the rest for immediate experimenting! that way you can always empty out one or more caps later and dissolve in liquid if you dont want to dose exactly one cap.
if its not a good scale then its probably best to dissolve the lot, but you need a certain percentage of alcohol to stop it going mouldy if your not going to consume it quickly.
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So, about how much alcohol (as a percentage of the solution) would be required? 5%?
 
I really have no idea, i'd try and use as much as possible as long as the amount of alcohol that would need to be ingested would still be low. To guess, i dont think 5 % would be enough, can beer still go mouldy? 20 % would probably do the job.
 
2C-E solubility in water ?

Hi,
SWIM is acquiring 2C-E sometime soon and SWIM doesn't have a milligram scale.
SWIM will use dH2O to know how much he would need to take. To do that however, SWIM needs to know how much 2C-E is soluble in water.
SWIM is getting 250mg and thought about dissolving it into 250mL or, if possible, less. 125mL would be good, that would mean 10mL = 20mg. SWIM has no problem with taste at all.


SWIM's question is : How soluble is 2C-E in water ?

Thanks a lot.
 
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How sure are you that what you're getting is exactly 250 mg? If it's coming from a friend with a scale precise to 0.001 g, then make sure he/she knows not to be "generous"--if you get my drift.

If it's coming from a vendor, then he/she should know that you need a precise measurement as they sometimes either short you or throw in extra for whatever reasons (usually they have a shitty scale 8o ).

Your best bet ultimately is to throw down $50 - $250 for a reasonably precise milligram scale. :)

Oh yeah, it is H2O-soluble. 250 mg/125 mL should be fine. Shake well before serving.
 
about liquid measuring, how many mgs can fit in a ml or even a single drop of an eye drops bottle? If i do that could i put a ml or two and let i evaporate would i lose any substance? also can i use dH20 to disovle it? are there any disadvantages or advantages of using dH20 or everclear? thanks...!
 
xXBuddahXx said:
about liquid measuring, how many mgs can fit in a ml or even a single drop of an eye drops bottle? If i do that could i put a ml or two and let i evaporate would i lose any substance? also can i use dH20 to disovle it? are there any disadvantages or advantages of using dH20 or everclear? thanks...!
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I used dH20 for it.
It dissolves graet at 5mg/mL, but I heard up to 10mg/mL would be a problem either. I don't know the saturation point.
 
You wouldn't lose any unless you heated it past its boiling point. One advantage of using everclear that comes to mind is the faster evaporation rate.
 
With a bit of heat, I've pushed DOC and DOM to 50mg/mL in 91% isopropyl alcohol. Then I used an insulin syringe to liquid measure my doses. 100 units is equal to one mL, and thus, two units was one mL. Conveniently, the syringe is only marked every two milliliters so if you just count the lines you'll be right on.

However, those were DOx and not 2C-x, and I'm not sure how soluble the 2C-x are. I would think pretty darn similar though.
 
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