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Phenethylamines [2C-E Subthread] 2C-E Dosage and Methods of Administration

I get the most pleasant effects from 2c-e, and all other 2c-x's by taking them orally. Snorting seems to really intensify the side effects.
 
I tend to agree. You know, I've been experimenting rectally a lot lately, too, and perhaps it's partly due to tolerance but it seems to me that, despite reducing the dose required by a lot, rectal administration is less psychedelic and more recreational/euphoric/side-effect free than oral. Oral dosing, for me, remains the most profound and "complete" way to take a psychedelic. At least at this point it seems that way. I most definitely get a lot more in the way of visuals from oral dosing.
 
klowns said:
with lsd, i can eat a hundred or 200 or even more hits and just have the fucking tiem of my life, no toxicity.
peace
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You can eat hundreds of hits of LSD and have no adverse effects? That is really hard to believe.

Also, just because you haven't had any bad side effects from 2c-e doesn't mean that you can't, or won't...I sure as hell hope you've got scales accurate to the mg if you are going to be iving this stuff. I bet the dose-response curve when iving would be huge.

Egor already said: "DO NOT even think about doing 2c-e iv. I made the mistake of doing it and the pain at the injection site was unbearable. I almost went to the er, worried I may have just killed myself. My arm was unusable for days without blinding pain. The experience from the iv was hollow and worthless, too overridden by pain to be enjoyed."

You say you want proof that iving 2c-e is bad for you...Well I say I want proof that someone had a "fantastic rush" from it.
 
^^ There IS a definite rush of visual activity almost immediatly, but the peripheral effects detract from the experience too much for it to be of any use. That was the last time I did or ever will i.v. anything.
 
I've had 2C-E. I would imagine injecting it to be horrendous and connot fathom why anyone would IV it. :)

I imagine there would be quite a rush but not the kind I would be looking for.
 
ok then.....heres another one
how bout smoking it in a glass dick? ive heard this is great with all the rcs but havent tried it yet. apparently you need a much lower dose this way. anyone smoked 2ce? i would love to throw 10 mg in a dick and light it up unless of course someone tries to convince me that it is horrible as well
 
The only chems I have had good luck smoking in the fashion you mentioned are 5-meo-dmt, 5-ho-dmt extracted from A. columbrina, and 4-ho-dipt converted to freebase. I have heard rumors of 2c-t-2 being effective smoked, but I have never gotten around to trying. I tried with 4-ho-mipt converted to freebase, but there were no effects.
 
Today I took 10mg 2c-e orally in a capsule. I'd never done 2c-e before and was under the impression that it was a low dose
Well, it definitely wasn't for me ;)
I had realy fascinating and intense visuals both open eye and closed. There were waves of color moving through everything I looked at. I looked at a painting in my livingroom of a waterfall and I could see the water flowing down and hear the splashes it was making as it hit the rocks below.
The experience felt very "physically" as well as emotionaly intense. At one point I was becoming worried that I might be running a high temperature and whenever another wave of the experience hit it was so intense that I felt like I was going to have a heart attack.
I ened up taking a handful of 0.5mg Lorazepam tabs to kill some of the intensity of the trip. I wasn't afraid of the trip, I was just overly concerned on what that those intense jolts of energy were doing to my heart. After taking the Lorazepam I ended up feeling a lot calmer, only it seemed to kick the hallucinations in to higher gear. I've never gotten nasesous before just off of visuals before but they were so intense that I got very sick to my stomach.
Before long the Lorazepam changed the experience from a trip into a state of delerium. I couldn't tell what I was doing most of the time, my thoughts were a complete jumble and I couldn't make sense out of anything. I ended up riding out the trip on my bed having "visions" underneath my sheets.
Unfortunately I feel the Lorazepam had to have been the culprit in inducing all the cofusion I was experiencing. If I hadn't been so confused the whole time I would have been able to learn something through the experience, but I wasn't able to formulate any logical conclusions.

I just wanted my post to be a warning. MEASURE YOUR STUFF OUT ACCURATELY! I'd also like to suggest against ever using Lorazepam to calm you down in a trip. Lorazepam tends to make things really confusing and when you're already tripping hard, being put into a state of confusion has the potential for some very nasty results. In the future if I choose to take a benzo to ease trip anxiety I will use something like Xanax or Valium instead. Lorazepam just doesn't mix well with Psychedelics.
 
Xorkoth said:
I tend to agree. You know, I've been experimenting rectally a lot lately, too, and perhaps it's partly due to tolerance but it seems to me that, despite reducing the dose required by a lot, rectal administration is less psychedelic and more recreational/euphoric/side-effect free than oral. Oral dosing, for me, remains the most profound and "complete" way to take a psychedelic. At least at this point it seems that way. I most definitely get a lot more in the way of visuals from oral dosing.
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Really? I found rectal 2CB incredibly visual (albeit I've never taken it orally). But, I don't see how it could be THAT much more visual.

2CE for me is not very visual, which surprises me because I usually start visualizing at the drop of a dime!

What possible explanation can you provide for rectal admin being 'less profound'? That just doesn't make sense to me, but people have mentioned that in conjunction with insufflating/vaporizing certain chems.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
What possible explanation can you provide for rectal admin being 'less profound'? That just doesn't make sense to me, but people have mentioned that in conjunction with insufflating/vaporizing certain chems.
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I have no explanation at all, and I'm not sure if it's true or just circumstantial because I actually haven't taken too many doses rectally with the intention of having a full experience. Thinking about it now, it almost seems like the come-up and transition from rectal dosing are so smooth that they don't trigger a head change as much as they do when they're rough and bumpy, and oral dosing is definitely a little rougher on the come-up and transition to psychedelia than rectal. Nothing like a little anxiety and alienation to make you see things differently.
 
^^Rectal, intranasal, or IM injection all will have a much curtailed plateau (which seems to be the time for insights), since the peak plasma levels will be reached very quickly and decline thereafter. With oral ingestion, the drug is more slowly absorbed, providing a later peak and much longer plateau of effects. I find it hard to get much out of an experience if it is rushed. The plateau gives you time to get comfortable with the mind state, and with oral ingestion, you have a longer period where levels of the drug are fairly stable due to continued intestinal absorption, which somewhat cancel the effects of drug clearance.

IV injection has a nearly instantaneous peak for drugs that readily cross the blood-brain barrier, with a precipitous drop off as the drug equilibrates with the rest of the body tissues. I've never tried this, but it seems to be a waste when it comes to psychedelics.

Edit: I do remember reading some success with IM injection (I think psoodonym's report), but that was due to multiple small injections to achieve a more stable concentration of the drug over time. I think this could work if you timed it right for rectal, intranasal, or IM. It has the added benefit of avoiding interactions with food in the stomach (provided you don't inject rectally with a bunch of doodoo up there). ;)
 
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For anyone who might be curious, I do not recommend insufflating 2c-e. The burn is by far the worst of anything I have ever dared to put up my nasal passage and the world around me was torn apart into fractals before I could even put away the mirror I railed it off of. This was with ~10mg. You have been warned.
 
klowns said:
i happen to totaly disagree but definatly respect your view. me and my buddy wouldnt even think of doing 2ce any other way than snorting. the burn was mild, and faded out in a few minutes. we tried swallowing it and its fantastic as well, but i would DDEFINATLY recomend yo snort it. ymmv
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Bad idea, insnufflation of a closely related chemical (2c-t-7) has been well known for killing several people so far, though the exact cause of death was undetermened beyond acute drug toxicity, and there were other drugs in the system in 2 of the 3 I am aware of. Still, I found the side effects of pulse and blood pressure to be alarming in medium and high(15mg+) doses taken in this fashion. It is plenty active orally, so knowing this, why risk snorting a relatively unknown substance.
 
I used to frequently snort LSD. I used to snort large amounts of it in the confidence that the substance was physically non-toxic. I used to repeatedly redose that way, in a deliberate effort to get higher and higher, and never ever come down. It never burned my nose at all.

The point being, there's no way in hell snorting some nasty burning phenethylamine of unknown toxicity like 2c-e could ever give the sheer thrill that snorting LSD once gave me. So there's no point in it.

Plus, I've learned I don't really get that much from psychedelics when I just chase after the thrill of it.
 
DoubleTrouble said:
For anyone who might be curious, I do not recommend insufflating 2c-e. The burn is by far the worst of anything I have ever dared to put up my nasal passage and the world around me was torn apart into fractals before I could even put away the mirror I railed it off of. This was with ~10mg. You have been warned.
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I think I may have mentioned earlier in this thread somewhere, but I've sniffed 2c-E. Although I knew it wasnt wise, I did tiny, miniscule specks until I got to where I wanted to be. I knew the burn would be bad and proceeded with caution.

I didn't find it that bad, I dont think I'd do a whole dose at once, but if I went about it like I did last time I may do it again. Plus by taking it slow it doesnt just fling you into fractals and too much too quick.

Just my extra 2 cents..
 
Really? No euphoria at high doses? 17mg was quite a euphoric experience (MDMA-like came to mind, my mini-TR is somewhere in this thread). It actually bordered on hedonism, as there was very little content other than euphoric body high. This was combined with marijuana.

I'm thinking about plugging 10-11mg of 2CE. I am looking for a strong +++ experience, since 17mg was a weak +++. I guess I am not sensitive to 2CE (which is strange since I am sensitive to damn near every other chem I've tried!). I also want to be careful not to overdose.

I am very cautious about dosing, but at the same time am looking quite adamantly for a strong psychedelic experience (since it has been so long 'testing the waters' with other chems at low levels).

Here is my question: Would plugging 8mg and then 15mins later (if I am not quite where I want to be) plugging another 2mg roughly equate to a 10-11mg experience? Could I continue with 2mg rectal admins every 15mins until I am where I want to be? I seem to remember someone doing something similar with IM (do you think rectal admin would work the same way?) I very much want to take 2CE to its FULL level to give it a chance to how if it can be profound/meaningful for me, before I abandon it for other 2C-compounds.

Anyways, your advice is very much appreciated.:)
 
My scale arrived today, and when using the 10g/5g calibration weights, it weighs at around 10.017 and 5.011g -- is this just a matter of the weights being a bit heavier? or will I need to 'adjust' my measurements to take in the .017/.011 differences?
 
Could be that the scale is not level, or it could be the wind. Does it have a windshield? ANd are you using one of those 'vibration free' pads that dull vibrations? ALl of these things may contribute to what you see.
 
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