• Psychedelic Drugs Welcome Guest
    View threads about
    Posting RulesBluelight Rules
    PD's Best Threads Index
    Social ThreadSupport Bluelight
    Psychedelic Beginner's FAQ
  • PD Moderators: Esperighanto | JackARoe |

Phenethylamines [2C-E Subthread] 2C-E Dosage and Methods of Administration

It has a windshield -- when I used the weights i didnt close the lid, I just re-weighed and closde the lid, and it was 10.010 / 5.005, I dont have a vibration free pad however.

I did notice that even a little light breathing on it is enough to make the numbers jump.
 
Last edited:
Here is my question: Would plugging 8mg and then 15mins later (if I am not quite where I want to be) plugging another 2mg roughly equate to a 10-11mg experience? Could I continue with 2mg rectal admins every 15mins until I am where I want to be? I seem to remember someone doing something similar with IM (do you think rectal admin would work the same way?) I very much want to take 2CE to its FULL level to give it a chance to how if it can be profound/meaningful for me, before I abandon it for other 2C-compounds.
Click to expand...

Although rectal admin is much faster in it's onset, 15 mins might be jumping the gun a bit. I'd say 20-25 mins should be a much better indicator (although this reduces the number of times you can add to the original dose). After an hour, additional doses are not going to do anything but extend the length of the trip, so if you haven't got where you wanted with the 2nd additional dose (3rd dose including the original starting dose), you'll just habve to wait until another time.

As for the doses, 8mg rectally would be equivalent to about 16mg orally, but as it comes on quicker, this might be a tad uncomfortable. Maybe better if you went, 0:00-6mg; t+00:20 5mg t+00:45 2-4mg as this will reduce the body load (if you usually suffer from body load or onset anxiety with oral use, be prepared for possible unpleasantness from rectal dosing. Don't go for the IM route with this compound as if it's getting too much you can always wash out your colon with water to prevent any more drug getting into your system - this isn't an option with IM.

If possible have some benzos (fast avting pref, like Xanax) on standby if using such a fast route of administration as if things go sideways with this drug via this route, it can become extremely overwhelming in a matter of minutes and happen so fast that a trip sitter has difficulty being able to talk you down into a calmer space.

At all times, proceed with the utmost caution if you decide to use this method
 
samadhi_smiles said:
Could I continue with 2mg rectal admins every 15mins until I am where I want to be? I seem to remember someone doing something similar with IM (do you think rectal admin would work the same way?) I very much want to take 2CE to its FULL level to give it a chance to how if it can be profound/meaningful for me
Click to expand...

I was probably the guy you recall targeting the preferred level of intensity through repeated IM administration of an already prepared dose (10mg is as high as I care to go). This look familiar? http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=275896
Anyways, it's best to heed fastandbulbous' advice, but if rectal administration doesn't work out--and it may not if it's onset is as slow as indicated--and you do try IM, even then you won't know entirely what the nature or intensity level of the experience will be. Rather, I've found that the intensity of the speediness and anxiety will quickly and reliable plateau, but that it is up to me to know, in an already altered state, how that mostly physical level will translate into the forthcoming fully psychedelic experience (as opposed to the mere distortions and disorientation of the onset) of 2C-E, which I don't really encounter until about the 1 hour point. Everything fastandbulbous says about the dangers of rectal administration you can probably assume apply doubly to IM, in addition that is to its own inherent dangers.
 
So, jumping in with 10mg rectally may be a bit of a steep thing for a first timer with 2CE? I've had a number of hefty LSD and Mushroom trips (8+g trips, 3 hits of super strong blotter + piracatam, etc)

Maybe start with around 5mg rectal then increase the dosage at say, t+30 depending on how I'm feeling?
 
Here's my 2CE rectal story...

I plugged 6mg, then 30mins later plugged another 3mg (I was coming up on the 6mg but not fully there). Then at T+55mins I plugged another 3mgs. At T+45 I felt like I was almost fully up on the 6mg and coming up on the second one (I could definitely feel the individual doses come on when they did).

By T+2 hours I was peaking and this lasted for 2.5 hours. I slowly came down and by T+6.5 hours I was down almost completely (though my eyes were still very dilated). I then went and played in the snow. :)

It was MUCH stronger than 17mg oral (all at once), but did not feel threatening at any time. I finally got to see the deal about the unique 2CE visuals (which are actually a lot like 2CB but seem somehow deeper and more emotional). Music was amazing!!! (classic situation - the lyrics were being sung to ME while I was snuggled under a pile of blankets!).

I also fell in love with myself in front of a mirror (that was such a beautiful person staring back at me!).

Next experiment will be with two doses staggered 30mins apart 7mg +5mg (or possibly mix it with 2CB).

Here's the interesting part...rectal 2CE takes MUCH longer to come up than rectal 2CB (and from what Ive gathered 2CD and 2CC). The comeup was VERY gentle but MUCH more fun than oral. I was having fun and tripping pretty hard by 45mins-1 hour while orally I would not even be feeling the chem.

If you are planning to plug 2CE you must realize it might take up to an hour to peak (not like I thought 15-25mins like 2CC and 2CB).

I have no idea what staggering the dose does to the intensity, so I cannot give an estimate how much it is potentiated. Staggered like I did, I wager it is not quite twice as strong (perhaps on the order of 175% as strong). It felt like what I guess 19-21mg oral to feel like.

The moral of the story is its a great way to dose 2CE if you maintain some caution. You CAN titrate your original dosage 30-45mins after you've admin'd but you MUST realize you will still continue to gain intensity from the original (so the supplement must take this into account).

All around summarization: clean, cool, smooth, beautiful, euphoric chemical headspace.
 
If you re-dose 2CE later into the trip (a few hours), more to extend the high than increase the intensity - does the physical unease/nausea come back?
 
In my experience, adding more of a psychedelic after the state has been established rarely leads to a noticeable come-up. Of course, it also rarely does much good.

In fact, adding a totally different psychedelic generally becomes easier as well, IMO.
 
You should try rectal 2CE, xorkoth! I noticed each individual administration when it hit me. Very recognizable. Granted, I was not nearly fully up on the original dosage by the time each subsequent dose was administered.

But, I get the feeling that if I dosed at T+3 hours I would of definitely come up more.

But I hardly feel like tripping that long! 2CE is already long enough at 6 hours!
 
Did 6mg rectally tonight + a small booster. While there are some things about this I really like, there is something about how 2CE sits in my body that I dont like - I cant help but have the feeling that I'm damaging myself some how. It feels like I get 'head clogs' in strange spots, then theres a burst - and the intensity increases for a short bit. But, there is something about that head-cloggign sensation that I just really dont like.

Think my 2nd time may of been my last time, not that it was a bad trip - enjoyed it quite a bit, but there is just something that doesnt feel right to me.
 
Last edited:
Looking for a good recreational psychedelic, and remembering how much fun i had with low dose 2ci a while back, i recently ordered some 2ce (2ci being a scheduled no-no in my country of residence). After reading these boards, however, i'm starting to doubt the wisdom of my judgment, as 2ce is reported to have a much steeper dosage curve and be somewhat less "fun." I know there have been a few posts about low dose 2ce, but i'd like to know a little more. Has anyone taken consistently low doses without being struck down by the lightning bolt of revelation? (I generally prefer to leave that to aya) I see that there are a lot of 2ce fans on this board, but they seem to mostly be after heavy experiences.
 
t'es français?

in my experience, low doses suck. Just go with 15-20mg (after testing the waters with smaller qties.) 2C-E is very visual for me and unless I take 15+mg, the visuals are really uninteresting.
 
I'm very curious about low dosage 2C-E as well. I rather enjoy some of the other PEAs at museum levels' and I have never taken 2C-E below 16mg...which was similar to 250ug LSD in every way.....IE pretty damn heavy duty. I just shared some 2C-E with a friend (I didn't take it, he did) at 10mg and he loved it. Said it was gentle, but quality in every way. He said it reminded him of 2C-D more than anything, just much longer lasting.
 
I have had many good outdoor experiences on low doses (<10mg) biking and fly fishing. I always chew fresh calamus root with 2c-e at low doses outdoors.
 
i enjoy taking it at lowish doses, roughly 5-7mg. More so after having such a revelation my first time at 16mg, just a small dose of reality to keep you in a confident mood. Seems like a slow drawn manageable cocaine mania.
If it was possible to live on the stuff without gaining a tolerance or having an adverse effect on my health, i would gladly. 5mg at midday after waking up and maybe another one or two depending on the day :)

Everyone is different but i found that it lets you come to terms with things in your life, and once you have accepted them for what they are, it seems an easier drug to handle.
 
larochefoucauld said:
Looking for a good recreational psychedelic, and remembering how much fun i had with low dose 2ci a while back, i recently ordered some 2ce (2ci being a scheduled no-no in my country of residence). After reading these boards, however, i'm starting to doubt the wisdom of my judgment, as 2ce is reported to have a much steeper dosage curve and be somewhat less "fun." I know there have been a few posts about low dose 2ce, but i'd like to know a little more. Has anyone taken consistently low doses without being struck down by the lightning bolt of revelation? (I generally prefer to leave that to aya) I see that there are a lot of 2ce fans on this board, but they seem to mostly be after heavy experiences.
Click to expand...

I found 14mg oral to be very manageable - was not intense and found it to be very 'sociable', was able to talk with people / etc no problem. I also did 6+3mg rectally (check trip reports) and went out to a club and found that to be a great 'fun' dose.

Everyones mileage may vary, as can purity of what you have - so it may be a good idea to start with lower doses in a controlled setting to get an idea of how you react first.
 
I tried a rectal dose (amounting to 11mg spread over 55mins) and it was manageable but became VERY intense. I think 2CE is very malleable in the sense that it only became intense after I turned the lights low, set the music to something appropriately sexy and laid in bed. The visuals intensified perhaps 2x and my thoughts went straight down into my deepest fantasies.

I would not waste this experience in a public setting (but then again I would not spend any psychedelic experience in a public setting). I must feel like I can do whatever I want to do while on a psychedelic, whether that is laugh my head off, cry, get naked, do a headstand, or meditate.
 
the results of my research so far:

6mg - definitely got high, but didn't really trip. fun, but i wish i had done more.

12mg - a total blast. took it at midnight and went out clubbing. had an absolutely great time. not as euphoric as 2ci, but more visually interesting, and my head was clear enough that i could function socially pretty well. I think the recreational potential of this substance may have been underrated.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top