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Phenethylamines [2C-E Subthread] 2C-E Dosage and Methods of Administration

I don't think about it....works finally orally. This one is so intense, I think a slow comeup is nessessary...well really I feel that way about all of the PEAs. THey are just best taken orally. Smoking, snorting I feel takes away from their 'class' and it seems really 'druggie' to me but that is just a personal opinion.
 
I tend to agree with Senor Morninggloryseed, although I guess some people find it worthwhile. I'm just not one of them. I find them to be far and away the most psychedelic when taken oraly. Actually, they're almost as psychedelic when taken rectally, with a much smaller dose, but I'm starting to think that oral dosing to an equivalent intensity level is still more psychedelic.
 
i seem to remember reading that the 2c-x 's produce harmful fumes should the event of combustion come upon them. don't remember where, just a faint memory
 
My experience with 15mg in a few words

Fast onset on almost empty stomach -- ate a sandwich after -- caused highly uncomfortable nausea. For 30 mins I felt like vomiting but couldn't. At this point I thought I was really in for a nightmare ride because the pain was monopolising all my trip. Vision started getting trippy -- seeing things breathe and move --

Sat down on the couch to watch south park and the discomfort faded away magically.

Then came the fucking visual bliss.... trippy xmas lites outside......

body bliss too....
psychedelic state of mind also... just very positive about stuff and life.

highly enjoyable musical component too.

2C-E rocked my world for like 6 hours.
 
ok - i have had a decent amount of this stuff for a while, and have decided to try it for the first time tonite



started small of course - 10mg



started to feel something very soon, maybe 10 minutes after


no nausea, but it, like all other phenethylamines, gave me bad diarrhea


skin is flushed, maybe a little intoxicated - but nothing to much


gonna wait maybe 2 hours, then redose a little more
 
Redosing is ineffective. If you feel anything, it will induce negative physical effects with little positives.

Wait at least a week, then titrate upwards. This is one to take your time with.
 
I agree that low doses are very comfortable and somewhat euphoric. My favorite part about them is the analytical boost and very objective mindstate, as well as the light enhancement of activities, especially artistic.

Higher doses are a different ballgame for me, though. I've had two very strong trips on it, and one was quite euphoric and the other was hellishly intense and profound (but one of my greatest trips of all time).
 
My few (3) low dose experiments (1, 2, 4mgs) did not enhance my mental/analytic functioning. The primary aspect of consciousness that was enhanced were the emotions. Emotions were much more intense and sharp (bittersweet) those days. It did not help me analytically (if anything it hindered my thought process). Actually almost started crying watching the leaves fall on a very beautiful, clear Autumn day.

I have tried 8mg and that is not a 'low dose' in the sense of being in the nootropic/subtle realm. My eyes are dilated and I preferred to not go about my normal daily activities in that state. The trip is quite manageable/malleable at this level (with very little visual distortion).

I actually haven't really felt overwhelmed at all on 2CE. It is very benign so far. The highest I have tried is 17mg and while it was definitely a great experience, I would of preferred it to be more intense. Perhaps 20mg will show something deeper?
 
samadhi_smiles said:
Perhaps 20mg will show something deeper?
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For me at least 20mg was "Wow, this is really nice!" and 22mg was like getting hit with Stark Fist of Removal. I kind of like that every now and then, and didn't mind it at the time. The dose/response on 2C-E (for me at least) can get a little wild once you get over 18mg.
 
I keep getting the feeling that the 2C-E that I recently purchased was either extremely impure, or even mislabeled....or perhaps I am simply resistant to its almost unanimously proclaimed "intense" effects.

When I received the 500mg(actually 560) I weighed out 500 and dissolved it in 25 ml of alcohol.

My first trial was with 1/2 a ml, equaling 10mg. I felt mild effects, low-dose cactus type visuals and slight stimulation lasting around 3 hours.

Feeling slightly betrayed because I have read of amazing reports at doses around there, I decided (some people would say stupidly) to double my dose to 20mg for my next trial. I was slightly more impressed, but I didn't really have any "breakthroughs" or other extremely intense effects described by others.

Of course, being the reckless bastard I am, I decided to jump to 40mg (I did try 20mg rectally, to slightly better effect and faster oncome, but it wasn;t breathtaking.)

This experience wasn't bad at all, except it lasted over 12 hours, but I have had more visually intense trips on low doses of ayahuasca and 3 gram doses of mushrooms.
 
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2C-E doesn't get remotely interesting for me unless it's above 30-40mg. Anything under that and I have to really *try* to get anything out of it.. I know that seems like a broad range, but for me the "2mg doubles the intensity" just isn't true.. 30mg and 40mg are worlds apart, but 40mg isn't 5x intense (well, quantifying intensity is kind of hard) as the 30mg. Though I can say 30mg is twice as strong as 20mg. However I don't doubt the purity of my product, it's 99%.. I've allowed a couple friends to try it at 15mg, most will never try that again, lol.

But the odd thing is over 12 hours? That's an awfully long time for 2C-E, mine usually last around 8-9 hours total (baseline back to baseline).

EDIT: Just saw your picture in the gallery, I must say the stuff doesn't look that great.. Doesn't look really bad or anything, it's just a little yellowish and kind of grainy looking or something.. Mine was pure white, really fluffy stuff.
 
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For what it's worth, the last batch of 2C-E I received seemed very weak to me as well. Where before 18mg had blown my entire world apart in a way that nothing else has come close to (other than ketamine), with this batch 18, 20, and 22mg doses all had a very light, superficial effect. it was definitely 2C-E, but it felt like a very weak dose, perhaps even as weak as 6 or 8mg.

Psychedelic tolerance certainly plays a part here, but my feeling is that my 2C-E is very impure.
 
I've taken it up to 50mg with no noticeable side-effects. I would then assume taking it up to 60mg, or maybe slightly beyond would be fine, at least physically, I can't say that you would be fine mentally though, lol.
 
2c-e dosage discrepancies - purity, tolerance, or setting?

If a dosage of 2c-e has the power to rip one person's reality apart by the seams, yet another person taking the same dosage can barely feel it, what did the second person do wrong? Surely there is an explanation for these dose discrepancies I keep reading about. What are your thoughts on this?


I myself have done it twice, and without referencing vendor details, the second time was 22 mg from one vendor and I barely even felt it, almost no visuals, etc. However, the very first time was 20 mg from a different vendor - and it wasn't even pure - and it hit me twice as hard, but only to a low +++ which was disappointing. The setting for both experiences were raves - in the same venue. Sometime in the near future I shall sample the product of a third vendor but in a different setting, and when I do I'll post here again as hopefully that should shed some insight into the matter.
 
If you're not getting a strong trip with 20mg or so,that should ring the alarm bells.Better throw the stuff away.You don't know what the rest is.
 
hugo24 said:
If you're not getting a strong trip with 20mg or so,that should ring the alarm bells.Better throw the stuff away.You don't know what the rest is.
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I wouldn't go so far as to say that..

It would be like having 2 people eat the same blotters with approx the same dosage of LSD. One has a profound experience, quivering in the corner in the fetal position, the other, has a light but good trip.. I wouldn't just say throw it all away to the second person just because it wasn't as intense as the first person's experience.. Everyone's different.

A lot of things could account for the different levels of experience.. Individual metabolism, fasting or not (or how long), body size, etc...

For instance, I could take it up to 50mg (with some tolerance however), while extremely intense, I could handle it.. The VERY same stuff, at 15mg to about 5 of my good friend, and they would never try it again.. Another took it to 30 with me, and would go a bit higher. So I should just throw it all away 'cause it's bad huh?

I should also say I don't mean to be an asshole about that last comment, you make a valid point hugo.. If it isn't pure, then you never know what else is in it, and maybe what's in it, shouldn't be eaten.. However, I doubt that EVERYONE that takes more than 20mg has impure shit cut with all sorts of bad stuff.
 
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Just a little note for you guys.. In some of my previous reports I claim taking up to 50mg..

While this is true, it's not entirely. It's recently come to my attention that the stuff I had acquired was not of the highest purity.. I don't know how pure, or impure rather.

So just don't pull some bravado shit and take a massive dose, and always be careful when working with this stuff.

God damn irresponsible people (not you guys, the person(s) responsible for cutting this stuff). It already has a steep dose-response curve, and cutting it just makes it that much harder to accurately dose this stuff out.

Anyway, be careful guys ;)
 
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