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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

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Aye, its certainly moreish. Have noticed no withdrawals, other than wanting some, after doing for some time repeatedly and then ceasing. Other than the withdrawals from my rx pain meds being there if I didn't use MXE, which would have been there anyway, as I rarely ever actually even bother taking my script if I've used MXE that day. I just don't need to, as it both holds me without withdrawal at a very light threshold of a non-dissociative dose and is better at relieving my joint pain than the painkillers ever did.

Damn glad I had some around several days back though, had some sort of strange eye trouble, a few days ago, sudden onset, eyes, nose and respiratory tract started overproducing fluid like crazy, and intense pain in one eyedamn painful, couldn't even open my eye. I'm lucky I'm autistic, and that my photosensitive eyes like low light already...just try taking anything via IV with shades on, the lights dimmed and with one eye telling you you just got poked with a hot stick in both.
 
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Paralyses users? unlike K, I don't see this as particularly likely. It is far more conducive to ambulatory states than ket. Might not be able to form a coherent word in a heavily intoxicated state, but move? I've found myself still able to move, whilst in a very, very deep trip.
 
Any ideas when scheduling will happen? PLLLLACE YER BETS!
With all these PCP-psychosis type posts showing up here I am not suprised at all.
 
Other 'legal highs' freely on sale, such as the anaesthetic methoxyketamine can cause paralysis and terrifying hallucinations.

Cool story bro.

How could they even allow a crucial misspelling like methoxyketamine to get published? Oh wait...it's because they don't give a fuck about misinformation.
 
Cool story bro.

How could they even allow a crucial misspelling like methoxyketamine to get published? Oh wait...it's because they don't give a fuck about misinformation.

That and the commercial name was badly chosen. I'm a notorious spelling nazi and even I have gotten it wrong on several occasions, both verbally and in writing.

The moron who came up with methox-etamine only did it to lure prospective customers.
 
Fell asleep last night after dropping two capsules with 20 mgs MXE during the night without much result.

Woke up an hour and a half later because of tinnitus and other weird sensations. My mind was very lucid but I had a lot of trouble with movement.

Had to pee and now I know what they mean with "duck walk", lol.

I can't lay down on my back with this compound or else I need to stay focussed on my breathing and consciously yawn every few breaths. That's annoying.

However, laying on my side relieves much of the suppression and eventhough the amount of MXE was low I did get a good sense of its psychedelic properties.

I'm not good at visualisation but with MXE the black behind my eyelids became a wide cinema screen with images I think I could guide, but perhaps that's not really true.

In any case, I'm starting to get a taste of what people enjoy with disassociatives, but I'm hesitant to increase the dosage just yet.

To be continued.
 
It really isn't that bad of a name besides being close so close to say methoxamine. Methoxy oxo ethyl amine - (3-Methoxy-2-Oxo-PCE), I really don't see a problem other than the name making it easier to be communicated with a larger market. Better than calling methylone M1 imo.
 
FIRST THOUGHTS AND SECOND CHANCES

I got a load of this when it first come out and initially found it quite interesting, but there were things about it i weren't too sure about. As i said at the time theres something quite psychotic about it, far moreso than K. After a few mad sessions on it, i came to the decision i'd learnt all i could about it, i felt it lacked a lot of the depth of a good K-hole and the lingering after effects were just a little too long and annoying. One-trick-pony I think I called it and stashed it away somewhere lonely and ignored.

Anyway a few months ago I thought I'd give it another chance, bit of a K drowt, that dodgy shit will do. I told myself not to go too crazy this time and whadya know, i found some new love in it (mixed it up with Butylone, good little combo, see my post in the appropriate thread). It seemed i was wrong to dismiss this interesting multi-faceted sneaky little fucker!

TAKE IT EASY, AND IT WILL BE GREAT

There are some drugs i have major respect for: Acid, because its a serious commitment, DMT because its so full-on, benzos in general cos of the dependency (I'm sure you have a few drugs you could nominate here for your own reasons). But most of the time i just go fuck it, sniff it, see what happens today, Coke, Drone, Ket are all good examples of this.

I've realised now that MXE (Mox as we call it round here) is one to be respected. Nice reasonable size lines are good, but rather than every ten minutes I try to give it an hour between em. Soon enough i'm gently/messily finding myself in a world of much peace and happiness, with a fair bit of the good old wobble-wierd for entertainment. In many ways it reminds me of when I used to do K almost 24/7. Some kinda make-believe world that feels so good where i can do anything and its all kinda great, somewhere i never want to leave.

The loved-up feeling i get from mox is unlike anything else, sorta like that first E but not, different in a slightly ketty-everythings-great kinda way. Both me and my Mrs have really taken a magical rediscovery of this. The psychotic edge seems to have subsided (but i know its there, its had a few minutes in the spotlight) but taking it all slower seems to help.

Of course it aint for everyone, i've heard of bad experiences, think i even heard the usual "blue knees" story resurface. But I think its important to respect this drug. Etizolam seems to be good for easing it all off a bit if you do find it too much.

ADDICTION?

I'm certain this is addictive in much the same way as Ketamine, everythings so great on it and seems so horrible when you come off it that all you wanna do is stay moxified. Like I said I've been there with K and went through "withdrawals" (might have worsened since i'd built up a minor Valium habit which i kicked the same time),so I really do know how hard it is to come off something like this. Emotions are sinking, wanting to scream, fight, cry or whatever it is you do when you're this low. You go outside but the real-world seems a million times worse in every way, its all so fast, people running at a thousand miles an hour...for what?! Everything is in your face, everyone is in your space, society is full of idiots and arseholes, and no-one else knows or gets it cos they haven't been where you've been and seen how it really is. They're all ignorant, but you know, you can't articulate it but you know it, so fuck them. Let them have their little life, never questioning, never wanting to know. You've seen/felt more than any mortal should see/feel. That makes you pretty fucking magical and I know you wanna go back for more but not today. Hopefully not tomorrow either.

Sadly the real world is shit but you'll get used it again.

I admit I've drawn more from my own K withdrawal experience (which followed several months of every day) and my own feelings following a few Mox benders. With a little bit of my own bad attitude thrown in. But for those hooked and trying to get off this I'm sure your experiences are not all that different. If it does seem at all similar I won't lie and say its easy but it sure aint impossible I can't tell you what to do next, theres different ways to deal with it, and its a personal thing, you have to find the right solution for you.

On a happy note remember with respect and reason, an occasional Mox/MXE sesh with someone you love or people your close to can be amazing, life-changing even, but not if its everyday.


I posted this a couple of days ago (arrogantly quoting oneself!!), I also posted one of the first kinda negative reviews of this almost a year ago, but that was back then.... I really have fallen in love with this chem these last few weeks.

Having completely gotten away from the whole "its not like K really" attitude that bugged me with my first experiences I can now take it for what it is, and it is very much its own thing.

But theres still the problem, when someone asks me what its like, the easiest way to describe it is "its a bit like K but it lasts longer and you don't really go into a hole on it" but that doesn't come close to really doing it justice on its own individual merits, which over the last few weeks i have really come to understand.

It is far less "spiritual" than K, it seems to be much more grounded in reality, and further from any of the God/ego/extra-dimensional/whatever-the-fuck-you-call-it thing that going deep into K can bring. MXE is a much more emotional thing. I always found that K (while it can be shared) was very much an individual thing, this is what ultimately led to my addiction as i realised it was often best when on my own.

MXE on the contrary is best shared, the love between me and my Mrs when we are on it together is like nothing else, no MDMA kinda love comes close. Perhaps this is different because of who I am now, but the emotional level of MXE just seems more powerful than any other aspects of it. I've mox-holed a couple times, we've mox-holed together a few times and those are the times that have really made this its own drug.

I'm still wary of of its potentially psychotic edge, in the wrong head it could be very bad, far worse than K could. Worse even than Mortal Kombat (Drone & K) , which I've seen fuck a few heads up. But nevertheless rediscovering this drug just in time before it enevitably gets stuck on the temp-to-perm ban list has been an absolute pleasure.

As I said before though, the key to this one is showing it some respect.
 
So it seems a friend of a friend (not SWIMing, just someone who is actually a friend of a friend) has been going through TONS of this stuff and when I say TONS I mean in the span of a month has easily gone through more than ten grams. His personality has started to become much more manic, and he was originally quite a manic person to begin with so this change is extremely alarming to some of the people close to him. The said person seems to be going into fugue states and not remembering whole days in some extreme cases.

I post this as a warning, this is not some meph replacement, this is an addictive dissociative, that in the hands of the right person, can be extremely psychologically damaging. Be careful people, MXE can be a crazy fucking substance.
 
I post this as a warning, this is not some meph replacement, this is an addictive dissociative, that in the hands of the right person, can be extremely psychologically damaging. Be careful people, MXE can be a crazy fucking substance.

very well said.
 
For me, it's just a more dopaminergic and much longer lasting K. It's like a 3rd plateau DXM trip but with less cough syrup and amnesia (80mg taken).
 
I think tonight I want to do 4-AcO-DMT + 2c-e, and then methoxetamine as I come down. I kinda wanna throw some m1 in there as well, but I dunno if/when I should do that - with the mxe? I'll also have nitrous on hand, not sure when I'll do it but I'll probably save some for the mxe (if I do any mxe....and I probably wont' do too much mxe + nitrous bc I've read that that combo greatly increases the risk of developing olney's lesions...)
 
Not to wanna sound like a scaremonger after mentioning the blue knees thing myself... But.

Got in the shower today and noticed one of my knees has indeed gone blue!!! Could be the Butylone I been mixing with this of course.

Seems the blue knee thing might be one to watch out for then, don't think its bruised.

Guess that means i should stop for a bit, I'll let y'all know how it goes.
 
I do any mxe....and I probably wont' do too much mxe + nitrous bc I've read that that combo greatly increases the risk of developing olney's lesions...)

Can I see a source for this? I am not saying you are wrong but to the best of my knowledge neither nitrous or MXE can cause olney's lesions. I mean correct me if I am wrong but I really don't think that is accurate.
 
A small update.

I took MXE daily for about a week when I was taking a break from kratom and it worked well for the irritability/amotivation/depression I experience after stopping kratom. I could see how it could be an easy habit to fall into (like a I did when I had a bunch of s-ket laying around). It's been a week since I last took MXE and didn't notice any cravings for it. I'll probably give it another week off then return to a pattern of only using on weekends.

The main reason I stopped was I noticed some pain in the kidney area (which I had noticed briefly when first using MXE, and also previously with ketamine). A few days without using and the discomfort subsided. I think I may be sensitive to this type of issue, and/or the MXE could be irritating a previous kidney injury caused in the past by ketamine. I had pain that lasted over a year from only a few grams of ketamine taken over a month so I suspect it was a contaminated batch that may have caused some semi-permanent damage.

And having taken MXE in a few more social situations combined with alcohol I'd recommend a bit of caution. I personally find MXE very dehydrating/diuretic and when combined with the similar effects of alcohol has led to a few hangovers from hell. When combining MXE with alcohol make sure to drink LOTS of water. It's also a VERY wise idea to pre-weigh your doses for the night. Times when I haven't done that I usually end up taking too much and getting a little sloppy.

Also for me MXE seems to mix very poorly with anything stimulating. Coffee is ok but even a cup of coca tea with MXE makes me feel uncomfortable (headache, anxiety, tightness). I've also used MXE with kratom (repeated low doses mainly for concentration) and while there is a short period when it blends nicely most of the experience is physically uncomfortable. Not alarmingly so, but I feel the potential is there for bad reaction.
 
Hi, I don't have time and money to buy a scale. So I think of dosing with a syringe + water/acetone/IPA/whatever kind of solvant. Is it possible? I heard of MXE degrading in water, is it true?
 
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