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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

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If you don't have time and money to get a scale then maybe you shouldn't be dabbling in powerful dissociatve drugs?

MXE does notr degrade in solution, I think it might be bacteriostatic but thats's just an idea.
 
When you have the choice between a China manufactured imprecise scale and a very precise 5 bucks method to scale. . . . . I would rather choose the 2nd option, don't you?
 
You don't need a milligram scale, plus or minus 5 or 10mg is fine. I've used a crappy Chinese scale to great effect.

I always weigh my substances, becase trusting your vendor to do it for you is naive...
 
When you have the choice between a China manufactured imprecise scale and a very precise 5 bucks method to scale. . . . . I would rather choose the 2nd option, don't you?

Your 5 bucks method isn't precise since you don't know the amount you're starting with. Even the most trustworthy vendor can make a mistake... Making solutions with unknown concentrations is pretty pointless.

Get a scale, really.
 
Your 5 bucks method isn't precise since you don't know the amount you're starting with. Even the most trustworthy vendor can make a mistake... Making solutions with unknown concentrations is pretty pointless.

Get a scale, really.

Just to expand on what sn23 said, I feel like the first rule of the "RC world" is to a buy a scale. Without a scale I feel like the chances for something bad like a manic episode or a psychotic break do tend to increase since you can't really know for sure how much you are taking.
 
A small update.
Also for me MXE seems to mix very poorly with anything stimulating. Coffee is ok but even a cup of coca tea with MXE makes me feel uncomfortable (headache, anxiety, tightness). I've also used MXE with kratom (repeated low doses mainly for concentration) and while there is a short period when it blends nicely most of the experience is physically uncomfortable. Not alarmingly so, but I feel the potential is there for bad reaction.

some horrific experinces mixed with various stimulants. amphetamine gave me worrying pains in my arms. an unknown stim "magic" put me in hospital mixing with mxe...knocks you out cold straight away. ...

DXM and MXE is a no no aparantly. but i have a cough. i presume when they say DXM doesn mix with MXE people are not refereing to a therapeutic dose of DXM as its intended use as a cough supresant? because i have a cough and i did MXE and just took cough medicine with DXM in it..
 
Just to expand on what sn23 said, I feel like the first rule of the "RC world" is to a buy a scale. Without a scale I feel like the chances for something bad like a manic episode or a psychotic break do tend to increase since you can't really know for sure how much you are taking.

I haven't thinked of that, thank you. So let's get the famous chinese scale :')
 
is butylone anything like mephedrone?

Yeah, kinda similar, its a beta-ketone. Gets quite psychedelic after prolonged redoseing. Seems to act as an enhancer for a lot of other drugs, particularly MXE and K.

Anyway, pleased to announce my knee has returned to its normal colour. Guess its one of the many ways my body has found to tell me to stop sticking chemicals up my nose! Still, I always thought the blue knee story was just one of those tabloid things that spread around, perhaps not. One to look out for!
 
Can anyone give me an approximate threshold dose for MXE? Erowid lists 3-10mg, what do you all say about this?
 
Can anyone give me an approximate threshold dose for MXE? Erowid lists 3-10mg, what do you all say about this?

I'd think that 3-10 mg is a good estimate for threshold dosage in non-tolerant users. When I first used it, I titrated up and had first effects (distinct from placebo/imagination) at about 7-10 mg.
 
Maybe you'd like to prepare another 5mg to add about 60-90 mins later. That should be fine, intensity-wise. Not strong but to get a feel for the substance if you're not used to dissocatives (I don't know your preferences). Just a bit of additional information, those doses were sublingual and I'm kind of a light weight (~55-60 kg).
 
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How is it I'm fucked on MxE yet my pupils are dialated. I've never had this before!?!

Turn on the lights before you look in the mirror?

I've never noticed MXE to either dilate or constrict my pupils. They react normally and as expected to whatever lighting situation.
 
I'd think that 3-10 mg is a good estimate for threshold dosage in non-tolerant users. When I first used it, I titrated up and had first effects (distinct from placebo/imagination) at about 7-10 mg.

I would agree... I noticed threshold effects after 2mg+/- allergy tests... assumed placebo at the time but later realized it was probably not... seeing as it was my first time so my body had nothing to base it on... yet it was standard mxe feel...I was very "clean" (months away from k, mdma, etc).. only smoking herb as I always do when I found mxe

Never get much eye dialtion unless I combine with molly and then less than molly alone...
 
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After a messy Mephedrone session last night we went onto Mxe. This is the first time in a long time I dared to to go into into brave territory. I eyeballed 150mg (yes, I believe the Meph played a part in me being so brave) and shot it up the hooter - note, I have high tolerance. I can honestly say I"ve had the most amazingly euphoric 12 hours of my life. I"ve had a bit of sleep and eaten some breakfast and I still feel rather euphoric and wonky now. I believe I redosed with about 100mg at some point and our hilton leeds rooms are a mess this morning but wow. Will post details when I'm at home on computer but I'm definitely a fan of high doses again! Were also positive that mxe displays empathic effects, especially at high doses. Is that because of the opoid effects or could it have some hidden serotonin effects?
 
it's been a month since i had mxe last.

i had a total of 12 grams during a period spanning 9 months. it has changed my life; or maybe would be more accurate to write that it has helped me to change my life, in a kind of catalytic way.

i was living in small room in a shared house in a grey big city. commuting 1 hour and half to a dead end job and feeling always tired and a bit sad. with no real time to build meaningful relationships.

I lost my parents and siblings 6 years ago, in a very traumatic way, and since then i had been suffering from obsessive thoughts, nightmares and other ptsd symptoms. mxe healed all that, unblocking my life journey.

now i'm sharing a nice 2 bed flat with my girlfriend in a wonderful subtropical island were we have been giving the chance to manage our own integral permacultural restaurant within a fantastic strong community.
this dream that we are living now was not given to us by mxe, but it gave us the confidence (the mania, someone might say) to believe it was possible and, therefore, find the way to make it happen.
on top of that, a few key amazing coincidences happened during my mxe journey... unexpected money (from the tax office, and old bike accident claim, and a couple of things more that we didn't know we could do)

i look back to my old life and... in a way i know it (the dead end job, the sadness, the grey city...) was a necessary step... but i was stuck there and, maybe, i needed the bolt mxe provided me (could i have got such bolt from anything else...? was it just coincidence, instead of causality...? i don't think i can know that
 
MXE as an antidepressant/anxiolytic = VERY EFFECTIVE

I just woke up from a 5 hour nap. I had spent the 2 days prior to the nap redosing MXE 25mg + MDPV 5mg every 5-6 hours.

The anti-depressant effects were immediate and I've woken up feeling like a completely changed person. I've been on SSRIs and other meds for years (still on Effexor ER) and have done my share of uppers/downers/lefters/righters but never a dissociative (no K/PCP exp, very limited DXM exp, lots of hippy crack N2O exp.)

I cannot explain how different life is without the normal "fog" that depression uses to rob the true pleasure in life. I've been more productive, sociable and "better" as a human being in the past 2 days than I've been on any drug in the past 10 years. I don't know what the long term consequences of my current research experiments will cost, but I'm VERY fucking excited that Big Pharma is now pushing our hard earned dollars into how exactly ketamine treats depression.

I can't stress how life changing the past 3 days have been. I feel like the "real" me is finally back, as if the depressed me had robbed my body and brain of command for the past 2 decades of my life. I feel like a kid again. Things are interesting. I love learning—not that I didn't when I was depressed, but now picking up and learning a task seems trivial and purposeful. There's a certain "push" or "kick" in life.

Nicotine consumption went down 90% since first starting MXE treatment. Tobacco causes cancer and other problems, and these are no longer seen as justifiable vs the pros of smoking. I still get the urge to smoke, like after writing "nicotine consumption" my brain lit up reminding me that a cig right now would be fantastic. The cig was not as fantastic as I had imagined it to be, and I put it out half way. But smoking still seems to agonise the Cool Receptor in my head.

Sex feels different. I feel like I just lost my virginity for the first time in my life, all the sex in the past not being equal in pleasure/value to my most recent sexual experience (same mrs!)

I don't feel like I've taken any drugs at all. Appetite is exceptionally good, brain and cognition are clear and the "time dilation" now actually feels like I've normally been living life in a sped-up-anxious sort of tempo and that this "dilation" is actually a step down to a more healthy life tempo.

It's not all perfect folks, don't get me wrong. This isn't a magic pill. Short term memory is sometimes off (though even sober it's very bad), reaching orgasm can be difficult due to the numbing sensation which is frequent primarily 2-6 hours into dosing. The drug is somewhat sedating and here PV helps a lot. I sometimes get light headaches on the comedown. minor Alice in Wonderland Syndrome when seated and focused on something for too long. Tolerance is going up and with it no doubt toxicity and side effects will rise as well.

ROA is in capsules (both drugs together) or insufflated. Slight feeling of stomach uneasiness no matter ROA (sublingual, oral, insufflated) almost like I'm hungry and full simultaneously.

Even if these effects don't last, just getting a glimpse of what the future holds in terms of treating depression is very fucking positive.

For better or worse, pain tolerance has gone up. I catch myself pulling nose hairs out with pleasure sometimes, I can be a bit too rough in bed, etc.

Who gives a shit about these minor side effects? Have you seen the ARs (adverse rxns) of the current ADs on the market?

"depression" in this context refers to a chronic major depression that is mostly treatment resistant along with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD) Also note that my daily 150mg Effexor XR dose cannot be ruled out as a factor as well, though I've been taking it for >9 months at that dose without this profound of a change.

I love you all to death you motherfuckers!!
 
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