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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 4th Dose (don't overdose)

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psood0nym said:
[..]they're more like scenes from a film of avant-garde impressionist animation[..]
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That's exactly how I'd describe a medium/prebreakthrough dose of dmt with ketamine, like my brain was quickly remodeling the world in 3D. The visuals were so crisp and dimensional.

Some examples:
My friend's face started rearranging into lego blocks, then a doll/ceramic type style, then a 3d cartoon look, then many other things including half his face falling away to be replaced by patterns and what looked like electronic circuitry.

My own hands and arms looked alien as they had no texture at all, except maybe what I'd expect the texture of a healed 3rd degree burn scar to look like.

The rug had a pattern of lines on it, but these all rearranged in to completely different patterns where all the lines led straight to a point in front of me.

too bad it didn't last long
 
^Very cool. I love the combination of ketamine and tryptamines, and have spent a lot of time exploring intramuscular ketamine with synthetic psilocin (and occasionally ketamine with synthetic DMT, also injected IM). Though very visual, for me the unique qualities of the ketamine/tryptamine experiences were not visual, but semantic, narrative, and body-mechanical (automatic symbolic contortions of the limbs). I glad you experienced something similar, though, even if it didn't last.

One of the things that was so special about the MXE/DXM visuals reported above was their stability and duration. I maintained the level of visuals described for two or three hours, I'd estimate, even after a lot of the body high wore off. My intellect was enthralled most of that time, but in the future I'm hoping to do some more systematic investigation of what makes them appear and dissolve, change or stay the same, etc., with the help of an audio voice recorder as a memory aid. Again, the way I made them first appear (in a big undeniable way at least -- I had seen fleeting glimpses before) was to look at a dark undetailed surface with one eye open. Then I refocused my attention from the center of my vision where my eyes were pointed to the right periphery of my vision and just held it there for as long as I could (while keeping my eyes still of course). The first time I did it I made the effort half unthinkingly after I heard a voice say "Turn the eye within the eye," (described in post #535) so I have no idea if this technique is something that some part of me was subconsciously trying to tell myself and it only works this specific way for me (could be total coincidence, too, for all I know) or if it'll work exactly this way for others, too. I'm certain others must be able to see the same thing with MXE, I'm just not sure if it'll happen the same way. It's worth a shot, though. Again, I had never seen OEVs on MXE (only CEVs) prior to making the effort.
 
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I'd like to share some experiences I've had doing nitrous on MXE. I didn't usually measure my MXE, but it was never enough to hole. I think I only holed once and it was pretty scary because I wasn't prepared. However, whenever I combine nitrous on MXE (esp. when i do two nitrous in a row when on MXE) the combination is too much. When I become too dissociated, there is a sense of panic and I experience bizarre, scary hallucinations somewhat akin to ego death experiences but somewhat different.

So for me the combination of n2o and mxe was not a pleasant one, although I enjoy each one on its own. There was definitely a sense of panic induced like when I am going through ego loss and it is not fun.

YMMV
 
one of the best mxe experiences last night, was drunk and on a small amount of mdma, felt perfect. felt connected to everything. sadly i dont know what the dose was, but it was just right. complimented the alcohol and md which is odd because usually when i mix mxe with lots of booze it gets very confusing and fucked up. feel kinda enlightened today, everything looks newer and i feel fresh. had some minor hallucinations, things out of the corner of my eye like i get when im lacking sleep on stims, which was odd. first time that has happened. but was quite comfortable with it, love the way mxe removes anxiety
 
I'm finally going to try this out on Tuesday. Has anyone tried this whilst listening to a meditation aid like holosync? I'm thinking it could be awesome. Probably turn out bollox but worth a go eh?
 
Madaboutmeph said:
I'm finally going to try this out on Tuesday. Has anyone tried this whilst listening to a meditation aid like holosync? I'm thinking it could be awesome. Probably turn out bollox but worth a go eh?
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I've tried it with NLP/hypnosis tapes that have binaural beats using a mindfold. Seemed to work quite well. I was able to go deeper into trance and become more detached from my body.

The Mindfold helped immensely as it was perfectly dark and I couldn't really tell if my eyes were open or closed. I did get some minor CEV, but nothing overly structured as the dose was pretty low.

After the audio ending I stayed in meditation for a long time and the MXE really helped that (I'm not much of a meditator).

I remained quite relaxed throughout the day, but unlike my experiences with the previous batch of MXE I felt some residual dissociation through most of the day.

I took some more at a party later that night, had about 4 beer over the night too (which MXE seems to go well with).

Woke up fairly fatigued, but I attribute most of that to the alcohol, (and 45 minute walk home) although over time I have noticed more of a 'hangover' the morning after MXE, but there is usually a lot of physical activity involved so who knows...
 
well I just made a shocking discovery everybody... I finally cracked the code on one of methoxetamines many many mysterys. This is what I've discovered.

Methoxetamine actuall allows a person to think deeply about multiple things all at the same time, simultaniously giving a person a completely fluid/clear/complex ability to rationalize about multiple things and come to an a to a conclusion after connection the dots between the thoughts. I do not know if there is a limit on how many thoughts a person can be comparing/thinking about all at the same time, but this is indeed true for myself. I now know that while under the influence I can think about multiple things all at once and stay in the "zone" and recognize this. Very VERY weird, yet amazing. I believe that this is possible on most, not if all psychoactive substances. Methoxetamine allowed me to see this while this worked. lol this happened to me about 7 hours after I plugged methoxetamine for the first time, after a 4 hour nap, while making a sandwich, while deeply wondering about a girl in my life, while thinking about this and that, all while keeping the most upmost postive mindset, even while considering a lot of negatives lol. haha yup tomorrow will be my last day of my 7 day testing cycle. Time for bed, again :) yes I realize how crazy this all may sound but i'd love someone elses views on this, even the ones that will say that I need a small break :) what a day :) Oh, and plugging is now my favorite ROA.
 
I feel that MXE is the most exciting RC to hit the market in many years. It's also nice in a way that it's one of the only interesting RCs that is unambiguously legal in the US. I hope the Daily Mail keeps their greasy paws off of this one.

I can't help but think that this is a disaster waiting to happen though. It's not as "moreish" as meph but it is reinforcing to some extent and doubtless that silly teenagers in the UK and the US will fuck it up for everyone. This is going to hit the rave scene hard soon, and its legal status is going to exacerbate the problem - as far as I can tell this is 100% legal to sell/distribute openly, unlike most RCs that exist in a legally murky gray area.
 
I wouldn't be to sure about it being 100% legal in the US.. Because of the federal analog act.. Seeing that it could be claimed as a analog of PCP and PCP being a schedule II drug would therefor make this legal... Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I thought that it was 100% legal also for a long time, But after failing a drug test for PCP with only taking this I am starting to have doubts. Again please correct me if I'm wrong because i would LOVE to be.
 
Korn3x said:
note to self: don't try mxe

lol.

idk why but stuff that changes your personality kinda is a turn-off for me trying them.

ive done acid once, 4-aco-dmt once, and dmt multiple times, but to me I don't really find these substances changing me per se. i'm able to view things from a different perspective while under the influence, but i haven't noticed any "permanent" changes.
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Having tried MXE and been through a fair few grams I'd say it makes the user a bit distant with reality for a few days after a heavy session - in comparison to psychedelics like acid or dissocatives like k. I tended to think quite heavily on MXE, about my outlook on life and decisions/choices I've made. I attempted to rethink them out and change how things should pan out or what I was planning to do with my life.

It seems to be reinforced throughout the past few pages, as you can see many people viewing MXE as a life-changing wonder drug, when really it's a drug.

The thoughts stick for about 2-3 days afterwards at most, then disappear and it's like reality has checked in to tell you to wise up.

Also, at higher doses personality changes seem to happen, but it is a dissocative.
 
1st time i took this i used 10mg, it did next to nothing.

2nd time, snorted 33mg.. mild confusion.. loss of balance, nothing positive to report.

3rd time, 100mg up the nose.. lots of confusion, some puke. nothing positive to report

after reading many fantastic reports on this substance i am very disappointed. if i wanted to feel confused and unbalanced its cheaper for me to just hit my self in the face with a frying pan a couple of times. the rest of the bag is going down the loo.

:(
 
60 mg Methoxetamine tests NEGATIVE for PCP 88 hours (3.5 days) after dosing

I report this because it's the first semi-reliable information we have that gives us any idea at all about the speed of methoxetamine metabolism. The test used was a Quickscreen "At Home" drug test, not a laboratory test. Given the growing number of reports indicating MXE tests positive for PCP, it seems they share similar metabolites. In addition, the dose of MXE is much higher than for PCP, perhaps resulting in a longer detection period. The test lists the detection period for PCP at 3-5 days (for a single use, I'm guessing) and the cut off concentration as 25 ng/ml. I'm no expert, but, combined with other reports of conducting positive PCP tests one day after MXE use, this suggests to me that MXE is probably mostly metabolized somewhere between one and 3.5 days after isolated use (dependent on the dose, user metabolism, body fat, etc.)

Me: 30 year old male, 185 lbs., weightlifter, low-body fat.

Dose: 60 mg MXE rectally with 650 mg DXM orally and a 4 or 5 hits of high-grade cannabis (I'm not a frequent user of any of these drugs so use of all of them can be considered "isolated" for testing purposes). (see post #680 for more details)

*I had also been drinking quite a bit of water before the test (urinating roughly once per hour)
 
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^ man thanks for sharing the results of the drug screen. We need as much information about this stuff as possible.

Ok...so I made another discovery today after hanging out with my autistic cousin. He is offically diagnosed but has a few gifts that are pretty amazing. Well I've always understood him and can actually have full blown conversations with the guy and everything. His most amazing gift is the ability to tell you what day your birthday will fall on during any given year. It's quite the gift. But anyways about my discovery. I've discovered that methoxetamine actually puts you into a temporary state of what most people would call "autism." I now fully understand full blown autistics now because it's almost as if they are on methoxetamine. Any ideas on this anyone? Full blown egoloss and autism seem to be one in the same.
 
I just returned from the temp agency where I'm getting summer employment and their drug test also turned up negative. They used a non-lab one that only took a few minutes, too, and I'm not even sure if it tested for PCP, but I figured I'd mention it because it's potentially a secondary confirmation of the first test.

Time to repeat my DXM/MXE experiment!
 
haha so yeah here's another thought on the autism thing. An autistic person can become anybody they want but not just anyone can become autistic...unless they consume methoxetamine. rofl it's a shame that I only have one more dose. I have a feeling that my 14 day break will go by fast :) like the lucky charms comercial asks, "what will we think of next?" lol :)
 
watsons torment said:
1st time i took this i used 10mg, it did next to nothing.

2nd time, snorted 33mg.. mild confusion.. loss of balance, nothing positive to report.

3rd time, 100mg up the nose.. lots of confusion, some puke. nothing positive to report

after reading many fantastic reports on this substance i am very disappointed. if i wanted to feel confused and unbalanced its cheaper for me to just hit my self in the face with a frying pan a couple of times. the rest of the bag is going down the loo.

:(
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Every tried just chilling with it? Lay down, Take at afternoon/night, Put on some music and then just flow with it?

I dislike it aswell if taken during the day, it has to be at night.
 
thenightwatch said:
was your dose the same?
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The dose was slightly higher as this batch seems a bit weaker than what I got from the other supplier.

I doubt tolerance was an issue as it had been almost a month since I had any, and my doses have all been relatively low (15-30mg).
 
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