The Big & Dandy Ketamine Thread (Third Injection)

[sekio]

There's a fair amount of (inactive) material in the forums if you do a search.

 

[homeydontplaythat]

coco, i take back what i said about methoxetamine, ive read that people prefer it more than k now. i read one review that said it was very dirty. i do find more comfort in K though since it is fda approved and i know the doses i am using....i know it has less neurotoxicity than pcp and that i can prevent any neurotoxicity with benzos or clonidine(have access to both).

can you tell me more about your experience with methoxetamine? ill go over to the thread for it, if there is one. thanks.

 

[homeydontplaythat]

yeah, im looking for active discussions. still good to look through archived stuff. thanks, bud.

 

[Chemical Wizard]

I have a buddy who says he likes to mix cocaine with his ketamine.

He says it's like "being really dissociated, but you're reallly really into it!"

made me laugh my ass off.

Anybody else ever combined K with cocaine ??? I dont' think it sounds like too awesome of a time but to each their own.

 

[stumblestoprepeat]

^FUCK THAT I just wrote out a huge reply and then bluelight had to go and shit itself..

long story short. Coke and K is indeed an awesome time, the biggest drawback being the fiendiness/short duration that they both share. I'd be in the perfect place for around a half hour before quickly coming down and scrambling to redose.

Gooood times though. Your friend describes it accurately and eloquently

 

[shishigami]

Well I k-holed for the first (and last) time yesterday night. I was chilling with my cuz and some other friends. My cuz was also dipping his toes down the rabbit hole but my friends were overseeing us just to make sure nothing bad happened. I insufflated 144 mg (I weigh 135 lbs) over 5 min.

I fell into this world where I was watching a beautiful starry night sky unfolding while watching myself watch the night sky from a canoe on a body of river. I had a friend shine lights in my eyes and saw fireworks. This was all pretty cool.

And then the main effects wore off and I threw up trying to get to my house nearly 2 hours after dosing. I felt like shit when I woke up and threw up again today.

So I'm not doing it again but glad I did it at all.

 

[homeydontplaythat]

my k vendor is done. fuck. i cant afford to spend fucking all this money on other sources. it REALLY helped me too. makes me so sad. this mxe shit seems like my only option and people are telling me its shit and some are sayings its great.

 

[Mugz]

I've IMd K three times tonight and not even one of the times was what I expected it to be like.

It was definitely K and it came in a ketamax vial.

1st dose was 45mg IM and it didn't really do anything at much, I felt slightly altered.

2nd dose was a couple of hours later and I decided to see if a bigger dose would give me better effects so I took about 90mg. This time I did feel ketified for a few minutes but it didn't last very long,

3rd dose was another couple of hours after the second dose and I decided to use a diffferent syringe/needle too so I could get more than 90mg in one shot. I had a massive 19G needle 8( that I used for that. I dosed about 120mg and again I got a very very short ketamine experience, about 10 minutes max of feeling like I was nicely on K.

My vision has been a tad blurry and a little k'd since then too but not much.

I don't understand why I didn't get the strong effects from the ketamine that most people would do with those sort of doses??

I followed the IM procedure correctly. I had recently had a mini 4-FA session but that shouldn't have affected the K though I don't think?

Could it possibly be because of a build up in tolerance to dissasociatives after taking MXE quite regularly on most weekends over the last 3 or 4 months?

Any other potential reasons why it didn't really have the effect I expected on me?

Sorry for a rambling post, just a bit confused

 

[Solipsis]

Yeah I got the exact same thing Mug... not that it hasnt been enjoyable for me, rather nice and clean K feeling but not like something particularly psychedelic or trippy. I think chronic K tolerance is to blame in my case, but still I would have thought that IM would give me some extra slack.

 

[Mugz]

interesting, I guess it must be because of the MXE use then, but I still would have thought that IM would be a lot better than it was. I'm tempted to give it one more shot with a larger dose now, say around 150-200mg even though that would normally be a super high dose for IM. IMO

 

[dubdubbawobwob]

I've never been able to find ket until my friend gives me his gram for free. I've done MXE and holed which was nice but almost too long. I'm looking forward to see how the K hole is different. For those of you who have holed on both, which hole was more visual?

 

[homeydontplaythat]

k is more visual. i havent even done mxe. simple research would answer that.

 

[burn out]

Well I k-holed for the first (and last) time yesterday night. I was chilling with my cuz and some other friends. My cuz was also dipping his toes down the rabbit hole but my friends were overseeing us just to make sure nothing bad happened. I insufflated 144 mg (I weigh 135 lbs) over 5 min.

I fell into this world where I was watching a beautiful starry night sky unfolding while watching myself watch the night sky from a canoe on a body of river. I had a friend shine lights in my eyes and saw fireworks. This was all pretty cool.

And then the main effects wore off and I threw up trying to get to my house nearly 2 hours after dosing. I felt like shit when I woke up and threw up again today.

So I'm not doing it again but glad I did it at all.

You can't move around on K, at least not without a tolerance. If you ever do decide to use it again, trying staying very still and you may not vomit. I have never vomited or had significant nausea on K and I've gone on all night binges , although my use is nothing compared to some of the posters in this thread.

 

[Solipsis]

interesting, I guess it must be because of the MXE use then, but I still would have thought that IM would be a lot better than it was. I'm tempted to give it one more shot with a larger dose now, say around 150-200mg even though that would normally be a super high dose for IM. IMO

That's the obvious re-attempt, and been there already brother. For me it was 100 mg of Agrovet (S-isomer) and 80 mg Ketostop + Drag Pharma (Racemic) or the other way around. It was pretty nice, very nice in fact... but still not as mind blowing as I remember a lot of insufflated trips being.

Well I can't think of another reason than the tolerance so....yea

 

[burn out]

My nasal trips have always been better than my I.M. trips. I like to I.M. to avoid the drip, save my nose and use less but the experience seems inferior.

 

[Chemical Wizard]

I like having one of those saline nasal spary misting things you can get at pharmacies around when there's lots of nose traffic. It keeps all those mucous membranes nice and moist. Plus I find if you spray a *little bit* up your nose 3-5 minutes after a big bump, particulary if you've been putting a lot of k up that nose, it helps dissolve the k and lubes up your sinuses. It's really nice.

 

[k-question]

Bit of a question here.

Does anyone get auditory hallucinations on k? I've been interested in it for a while and the other day, I tried it for the first time. I insufflated 40mg in one nostril, followed about 15 minutes later by another 40mg in the other nostril. The trip took about 15 minutes to come on. I mostly felt a pressure in my head and numb face, with slight dissociation while moving around. Mental effects were mostly confusion and inability to communicate effectively. Tactile feedback was generally stable, while anxiety was pretty high. Reaction to music was unremarkable. The high felt sterile and wired. I smoked some cannabis and this brought on a relaxing, trippy state of mind. Finally I laid down, and this is when the euphoria came on. I saw some strange things in the clouds, like clown faces forming in a little strip that was moving back and forth but staying the same, in a way. I was getting some good euphoric effects, nothing too overwhelming though.

About +50 minutes after my initial dosing I insufflated an additional 20mg, totaling 100mg. I also smoked more cannabis. I consider this to have been a mistake. At this point I was inside, listening to music, and I laid down on the bed. I felt an interesting dissociation happening, where my legs were becoming part of the bed and tactile feedback was fading out along with increasing pressure in my head.

This is the part that worries me: Out of nowhere, I get uncontrollable voices in my head, saying things that really disturbed me. I was on the verge of panicking, but I was able to somehow steer my body, which felt totally dissociated from this hellish maelstrom of thoughts, into acting as cheerful as possible. I was able to chalk it up to the drug, but it was frightening in a way that anxiety bouts on any of the classical psychedelics have not even come close to.

Despite the fear I have wanted to try K again almost daily. It's been a week and a half and I was thinking I'd give it another go tonight. I get the feeling that this drug is something to be extremely careful with, and I just want to know what sort of auditory hallucinations other people have gotten on k.

Safe travels.

 

[Teno]

Can Ketamine HCl be stored in a amber glass container (at room temperature) for an indefinite amount of time?
The only study I found about the stability of ketamine suggested that it is quite stable in a sterile solution.
Would an inert atmosphere significantly increase the stability?

 

[psood0nym]

Bit of a question here.

Does anyone get auditory hallucinations on k? I've been interested in it for a while and the other day, I tried it for the first time. I insufflated 40mg in one nostril, followed about 15 minutes later by another 40mg in the other nostril. The trip took about 15 minutes to come on. I mostly felt a pressure in my head and numb face, with slight dissociation while moving around. Mental effects were mostly confusion and inability to communicate effectively. Tactile feedback was generally stable, while anxiety was pretty high. Reaction to music was unremarkable. The high felt sterile and wired. I smoked some cannabis and this brought on a relaxing, trippy state of mind. Finally I laid down, and this is when the euphoria came on. I saw some strange things in the clouds, like clown faces forming in a little strip that was moving back and forth but staying the same, in a way. I was getting some good euphoric effects, nothing too overwhelming though.

About +50 minutes after my initial dosing I insufflated an additional 20mg, totaling 100mg. I also smoked more cannabis. I consider this to have been a mistake. At this point I was inside, listening to music, and I laid down on the bed. I felt an interesting dissociation happening, where my legs were becoming part of the bed and tactile feedback was fading out along with increasing pressure in my head.

This is the part that worries me: Out of nowhere, I get uncontrollable voices in my head, saying things that really disturbed me. I was on the verge of panicking, but I was able to somehow steer my body, which felt totally dissociated from this hellish maelstrom of thoughts, into acting as cheerful as possible. I was able to chalk it up to the drug, but it was frightening in a way that anxiety bouts on any of the classical psychedelics have not even come close to.

Despite the fear I have wanted to try K again almost daily. It's been a week and a half and I was thinking I'd give it another go tonight. I get the feeling that this drug is something to be extremely careful with, and I just want to know what sort of auditory hallucinations other people have gotten on k.

Safe travels.

Voices? That's OK.

Malevolent voices? That's a concern (but maybe an opportunity).

Auditory hallucinations are common on dissociatives. Usually the hallucinations sound like helicopters or chainsaws to me, especially if I have a fan or air conditioner on. I recently heard voices on methoxetamine. Like you, I was in bed, but I was purposely trying to enter a trance. The voice hallucinations I heard were random indiscernible snippets, like the kind commonly heard while drifting off to sleep. But then I clearly heard "Turn the eye within the eye." This was followed by a vision of an eye inset within a cross-section of a larger eye turning 180 degrees to look into the larger eye's retina. My right eye popped open without me even thinking about it and the right side of that eye's visual "window" formed into a projection screen for visions unlike any I've seen in 13 years of using psychedelics. In order to see the visions I had to focus my attention to the right of my central focal point. The "eye within the eye" was a metaphor for attention (the "eye of the mind"). Listening to the voice led me to a profound inner experience.

My point is that if you can hear voices you may be able to learn from them, too. Obviously you need to be critical of anything voices tell you, especially malevolent voices. If you do ketamine again and the voices come back you might try asking them what they are trying to accomplish or trying to defend yourself out loud to see if they react. Hearing voices is unfortunately still the folk-cultural litmus test for insanity, but if you do some research you'll find many normal functional people experience them. Some even credit their voices with great successes in their life.

See Hearing Voices Movement

 

[K-Dazed]

Can Ketamine HCl be stored in a amber glass container (at room temperature) for an indefinite amount of time?
The only study I found about the stability of ketamine suggested that it is quite stable in a sterile solution.
Would an inert atmosphere significantly increase the stability?

Keep it at room temp, in a cupboard/place with not a lot of light, and away from heat and you should be fine.