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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread: Second Dose

Jesus Christ this has a horrific comedown. First time I did it I got no brain zaps, no hangover and no crash over the next few days. Waited a few weeks, did it again. But I took too much. I had no zaps or comedown at first, then on day 3 (today) I crashed...hard.
I was near suicidal. I was crying pretty much all day, life was very bleak. I didn't even realise it was the MDAI until just a few minutes ago. The knowledge that this feeling will end is such a relief. I literally don't think I could have gone on for long if I thought this depression was in anyway permanent.
Scary stuff. Im not going to touch it again.
 
how much did you take? The highest i ever went was about 350mg over several hours and i didn't experience much of a hangover.

That's what I'm wondering. One thing I've always liked about MDAI is that there is little to no hangover. I've never had more than like 210 mg though.
 
Anyone else experience substantial heartburn and stomach ache after MDAI use? It probably has the most irritable effect on my stomach I've ever encountered. Even after eating a gram of MDMA my stomach isn't half as upset.

there's more serotonin receptors and serotonin itself in our guts than in the brain, may have something to do with it.......I know Prozac (a serotonin effecting drug) gives me heartburn like no other ...
 
I never got on with this one from the word go the powder was like a vermiculite or somthing nasty just very got all twitchy and me eyeballs wiggled , great no real buzz or rush threw the rest of the bag down the bog.. not for me
 
Hi there, i did 80mg 2 days ago, i start to feel a little down and depressed. I was feeling great the day after. But today im a little down, is this common?

Harm reduction, what can people recommend?
 
it is not a common effect of this chemical as far as i know, however there might be other factors involved. try to eat well, excersize a little, go for a walk in fresh air, or socialize a bit... maybe it is just a phase?

(im a little down and gloomy now too, though it has more to do with work starting tomorrow :) )
 
Okay, im starting to feel a little better. I always eat very healthy and exercise daily - a little bad mood is no excuse in my opinion.

Im going to try a bigger dose saturday - About 180mg. The problem is there is a big party at friday and maybe there would be some alcohol involved. Could i drink without "burning off" my body when im gonna take MDAI the next day? (In the afternoon out in the forrest - just chilling)
 
well there are some things to consider. for instance, it is not really advised to take these sort of rcs too often, even milder ones like mdai.
alcohol might just tire you and give you more of a negative mood for your trip the next day, but only if you binge and get pissdrunk. if you keep things within limits, drink responsibly and rest properly, i dont think you will have any troubles.
keep in mind that 80mg is a different experience than 180mg. maybe read up a bit what others experience and be prepared
 
I've read alot about it and many trip reports. After this experience with 180mg i will put the rest of the mdai away for several months.

I will drink i moderation :). Thanks for your help.
 
BTW. i forgot to ask, we are going to combine it with cannabis because we want the psychedelic aspect enchanted - Ofcourse we will we careful with it. I've read that cannabis is very potent on MDMA. Do you think it would work the same way with MDAI?
 
I'm surprised at the high doses people are listing here. I've had MDAI a few times in the past - the first time I had 70mg + some MPA, which hit me very hard and was very enjoyable, the next week I tried 100mg of MDAI and was left feeling sweaty and shaky with no pleasant effects. I couldn't imagine trying more than that...

I'm going to try the MPA/MDAI combination once again tonight, hopefully it treats me well. :)
 
@oSpherical. I think that batches of MDAI can vary a lot in strength and also it can affect you differently on different occasions. A year or so ago, when all the stock was tan or brown, and presumably impure, I could get effects from 100mg when I combined it with the usual suspect stims. Now that the stock all seems to be white I find 200mg is necessary (I have tested this stock with various reagents and it appears to be the real deal). Please let us know how your combo goes tonight and most of all enjoy it!
 
@oSpherical. I think that batches of MDAI can vary a lot in strength and also it can affect you differently on different occasions. A year or so ago, when all the stock was tan or brown, and presumably impure, I could get effects from 100mg when I combined it with the usual suspect stims. Now that the stock all seems to be white I find 200mg is necessary (I have tested this stock with various reagents and it appears to be the real deal). Please let us know how your combo goes tonight and most of all enjoy it!

Aye, 70mg has done nothing for me tonight except heat up my body, very different to the only batch I've tried in the past.

Just bombed another 80mg and am hoping that tonight isn't a total waste.
 
if you have the white 'sparkly' stuff 150 to 100mg should work with a 50mg line of MPA thrown in after 30 minutes or so. Goodluck!
 
Seems like a fun drug. One of my sources currently carries batches of these babies and I plan on ordering some. Are the effects similar to MDMA and MDA rather than methylone? I have heard good and bad things about methylone so I'm hoping for an enchanted experience like MDMA maybe with a more psychedelic effect like MDA.
 
MDAI really isn't like MDMA or MDA at all. MDAI is a selective serotonin releaser, whereas MDA, MDMA, etc are releasers/reuptake inhibitors of 5-HT, DA & NE, plus there's a little 5-HT2a agonism thrown in there as well, which certainly adds a dimension.
 
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