Opioids SR-17018 Is the future of opioid detox medication. Painless easy cheat to avoid withdrawal that is too good to be true, but it is legit and real.

[DrChivago]

If buprenorphine, methadone, SR-17018 and suboxone aren't available or only in limited amounts then this fairly inexpensive combo would feasibly do the job (alongside small doses of the aformentioned items if available). The combo outperforms said items in many ways.

I hate to be argumentative , but In no way do supplements "outperform" the efficacy of ANY opioid. Especially for Methadone withdrawal.

Now when I stopped taking SR-17018 the WDs were essentially avoided. I did implement a supplement intake of L-tyrosine, Mag Citrate and Sulfate, Vit C and Vitamin B12. It did help considerably with muscle soreness and mental health. Had to take amphetamine several times just to get the energy to work, however.

But if you're suggesting supplements in place of opioids... No, thats a horrible idea and rather reckless advice.

 

[Allylbenzene]

If buprenorphine, methadone, SR-17018 and suboxone aren't available or only in limited amounts then this fairly inexpensive combo would feasibly do the job (alongside small doses of the aformentioned items if available). The combo outperforms said items in many ways.

In no way do supplements "outperform" the efficacy of ANY opioid. Especially for Methadone withdrawal.

I meant outperform as in reducing withdrawals and facilitating recovery - those items (buprenorphine, methadone, SR-17018, suboxone) do very little to repair the dopamine and wider metabolic system.

Maybe the miscommunication is your use of the word "supplement" and it's connotations. I wouldn't necessarily call them supplements, they're neurosteroids/drugs with psychoactive effects including opioidergic, dopaminergic, GABAergic, anti-glutamate etc.

The specific combo I outlined is tailored for drug cessation. Because they're so common they're easily overlooked or dismissed: "Surely a pharmaceutical drug is necessary for opioid cessation and not some trivial assortment of OTC substances".

 

[4DQSAR]

People are aware that SR-17018 IS sold by legitimate suppliers of research ligands and reference materials?

Sure, you would have to set up a 'paper company' but that's a low bar. Sure it's more costly - but at least you are dealing with people who have build up a reputation among researchers. People for whom losing that reputation would essentially put them out of business.

As far as I can tell, the only nation on the planet that MIGHT legally control the stuff is the UK. Why go to a sketchy supplier for something legal?

 

[Helpmeescapethis]

I literally was just on the site yesterday. It's the main Chinese supplier who all these fly-by-night vendors buy from and mark up. And his prices haven't changed in a year and he stays stocked up.

I don't know where you all are seeing this stuff for these crazy prices. Either you guys have no idea what your doing or your just misinforming. There are TONS of vendors both clear and dark who sell it for less than $100/g (which to me is ridiculous when it only costs $40)

I promise you ppl. It's not hard to find. And its not expensive

I know EXACTLY who you’re referring to, and I guess you haven’t heard the news regarding them then.

They are NOT IN ACTION, and they have no current plans of changing that. The same goes for the other, Triad-backed Chinese supplier.

So no, you will not find it for that price right now. I never said it would be $100/g, but you cannot acquire it from those aforementioned people at those ideal prices anymore.

 

[DrChivago]

I know EXACTLY who you’re referring to, and I guess you haven’t heard the news regarding them then.

They are NOT IN ACTION, and they have no current plans of changing that. The same goes for the other, Triad-backed Chinese supplier.

So no, you will not find it for that price right now. I never said it would be $100/g, but you cannot acquire it from those aforementioned people at those ideal prices anymore.

Interesting regarding suppliers. I just read a little about it on reddit. Dread is the way....

The 100 price was just to give a price range in general that most resellers cap it off at. Even at that price, its still relatively inexpensive

 

[DieTrying]

My wife and I are planning on getting some of this to come off suboxone. I’ve done a lot of research on this and from the all of the reports I’ve read, it has a 90 percent success rate. We are going to be filming our progress as well as writing everything up on here. Hopefully this is the miracle everyone says it is. I was reluctant at first but after reading the comments I am beyond excited to try this. Stay tuned!!!

well? did you get it b4 it went scarce and did it work for subs id imagine you would need alot to last thru subs insane half lief 45 hours and full clearnce 225-320 depending on length of use /dose and acumilation..

 

[goofy8765]

Nail --> Head.

yeah again no money in cures... If SR were mass produced and gram bagged out in clinics I would estimate a 50% recidivism rate. Do you know how must lost revenue and infrastructure collapse that would create? It would be an economic vacuum. Same reason they havn't even begun to look at reversing judgment on NV pot offenders. You're talking a Kirby or Dyson of mad dollas son.

we are soooo cooked here. its not that the system is broken. It's that it works exactly how it was supposed to when you've learned that you kinda just kinds stop donating fks... especially if you've been introduce to it unwillingly.

It is the best !

 

[Jnowhere]

I have a guess as to why; if this SR-17018, works, that it is so hard to find.

Myanmar( Burma) is now again the world's Leading illegal Opium producer.

I guess the taliban is cracking down on opium.

The triads controled the Opium trade in Burma in the 1990's in that region, when General Khun Sa controled the Shan region of Burma.

Khun Sa, some claim was a dim witted puppet of The Triads or at least one of them.( money from opium. Money for military hardware to fight The Burmese government. I can't spell Myanmar, besides Burma sounds better).lol

He taxed opium production from the farmers and sold it to The Triads. He used it to fund his Shan State's Army( or something like that, he used the money to buy weapons for his guerilla army).

He disappeared and is now dead. Opium production died off from The Golden Triangle( mostly). Afghanistan easily took over. That was then.

It is back. Burma( Myanmar) is the leading producer and the triads wouldn't want a cure available.

That could hurt profits. Heroin is a commodity that is always in demand.

The Triads probably control Chinese RC manufacturing and sales in some way.
Or, just scare RC chemical producers from making it.

I believe they are filling the Heroin/ Opium shortage( The Shan farmers are growing opium again, and The Triads are making Heroin and selling it?)

Can't have a cure, for such a lucrative commodity.

Maybe The Triads, are using the big pharma plan of continuous profits, over all else.lol

No offense to The Triads.

 

[Allylbenzene]

Modified protein based peptides are all the rage. Look at how many ppl are on GLP-1 signalers now for weight loss. They are playing God with some of these compounds, lol. They are even developing OXR-blockers which show promising efficacy for GPCR spectrums, ranging from pain management to addiction/alcoholism.

The peptide industry is absurd. The irony is that none of the peptides are necessary since everything they're intended to do can be accomplished far more effectively (& safely) with existing things. Things which happen to be inexpensive and largely OTC.

 

[DrChivago]

The peptide industry is absurd. The irony is that none of the peptides are necessary since everything they're intended to do can be accomplished far more effectively (& safely) with existing things. Things which happen to be inexpensive and largely OTC.

I'll be honest. At 45, it's difficult to change your body(for me anyway) and break the cycle of bs. When I was stage3 renal I was 235lbs with a distended belly, love handles and stubby turtle dick. On methadone, miserable, full blown ED.. gd suicidal bruh...

Had my nephrectomy... and damn epiphany. Like well, fuck- only got one left... better do something diff and make a change. Shortly after quitting the opies(for 6+ months) w some help from SR17018, fasted 4 days(just h20) and started taking this diet thing seriously. I eat clean with as little sugar as poss and now a protien junkie. 150-200g is the daily goal. with supplemental powder too. And I dont even go to a gym, even though I have a free membership from my girl . Just home exercise 3 x week and a janky weight bench from the 80's that I lift on one. Once I combined clean fuel, exercise/weights and TRT sensibly I started shedding and converting it to muscle super quick.

I just clocked in at 211(5'10/11") and have been hovering there comfortably for a minute. It wasn't til I introduced 2.5ml/wk of TirZepatide that I really noticed just how much muscle mass I gained. I look in the mirror like ...shit ... I wouldn't wanna fight me. All my t-shirts... are becoming a weee bit snug. And she dont mind the change, hell my stamina is double/triple what it used to be. What ED? Lol... If anything I'm rocked up half the day like Rushmore. She actually had me order some estrogen and progesterone for her to keep up with me. I'll let y'all know how that goes

oh yeah, I guess I could do it naturally... with an act of God maybe. But me and him aren't on speaking terms atm.. lol

EDIT : I am DOWN TO 205. Just barely starting to see a faint 4-pack? And a little rib muscle mass. These fn love handles are a BITCH to lose tho..

 

[Allylbenzene]

The peptide industry is absurd. The irony is that none of the peptides are necessary since everything they're intended to do can be accomplished far more effectively (& safely) with existing things. Things which happen to be inexpensive and largely OTC.

I'll be honest. At 45, it's difficult to change your body(for me anyway) and break the cycle of bs...
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oh yeah, I guess I could do it naturally...

Why naturally? Naturally would be something like diet & exercise which isn't sufficient for many reasons. I'd say even inappropriate and risky for what you're describing.

What I meant in my original post was using existing drugs & neurosteroids to address the fundamental issues, this works regardless of age. Since these items are all OTC (and fairly cheap) there's no need to rely on doctors for peptides or HRT. Imo the most effective HRT is called pregnenolone (also OTC). It's the first hormone the body makes and is the precursor for all other hormones (testosterone, estrogen, DHEA etc).

This image gives some context for why pregnenolone might be useful as an alternative to TRT and HRT (estrogen + progesterone):

It wasn't til I introduced 2.5ml/wk of TirZepatide that I really noticed just how much muscle was getting swapped for fat.

Tirzepatide is effective no doubt but imo gives the illusion of progress. It doesn't necessarily address any of the pre-existing metabolic issues. So post treatment you might easily think that "I look great, everything is healed and it's a miracle" but that might be a false sense of security, and a dangerous one I'd say.

 

[Mycophile]

The peptide industry is absurd. The irony is that none of the peptides are necessary since everything they're intended to do can be accomplished far more effectively (& safely) with existing things. Things which happen to be inexpensive and largely OTC.

What "existing things" can do the same things more effectively?

From what I've read, I don't think the peptide industry seems absurd at all. I mean, as a BJJ black belt I'm a part of the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and MMA community, and my teacher and others have used Peptides like BPC-157 and T500 TO GREAT EFFECT for their injuries.

My instructor said something that was REALLY bothering him (I forget what it was) and that within a week of taking BPC it was completely healed when he feels like it could have taken MONTHS to heal on its own.

I personally am very excited to try them.

 

[Helpmeescapethis]

Why naturally? Naturally would be something like diet & exercise which isn't sufficient for many reasons. I'd say even inappropriate and risky for what you're describing.

What I meant in my original post was using existing drugs & neurosteroids to address the fundamental issues, this works regardless of age. Since these items are all OTC (and fairly cheap) there's no need to rely on doctors for peptides or HRT. Imo the most effective HRT is called pregnenolone (also OTC). It's the first hormone the body makes and is the precursor for all other hormones (testosterone, estrogen, DHEA etc).

This image gives some context for why pregnenolone might be useful as an alternative to TRT and HRT (estrogen + progesterone):

Tirzepatide is effective no doubt but imo gives the illusion of progress. It doesn't necessarily address any of the pre-existing metabolic issues. So post treatment you might easily think that "I look great, everything is healed and it's a miracle" but that might be a false sense of security, and a dangerous one I'd say.

If only pregnenolone could actually work that way. Even at megadoses, it doesn’t. Tried it with lab work as an experiment myself. It’s nice for mental health though. Always good to add to TRT.

And there are loads of other peptides besides the famous ones for burning fat. The classic BPC-157 is absolutely incredible. And there are many many others which have their own unique effects, definitely unlike anything else. The cleverer folks in the “modified” fitness world were on this train 20+ years ago.

 

[Allylbenzene]

If only pregnenolone could actually work that way. Even at megadoses, it doesn’t. Tried it with lab work as an experiment myself. It’s nice for mental health though.

For sure it's not necessarily like T, it depends what the goal is though. Many of the reasons people want T can be addressed using pregnenolone.

Pregnenolone is primarily a viable alternative to regular HRT for women's health. Regular HRT usually involves estrogen, testosterone, progesterone or DHEA (which is also OTC btw).

Always good to add to TRT.

Alongside TRT would be minimising aromatase activity to preserve T levels:

The activity of aromatase increases with aging, and under the influence of prolactin, cortisol, prostaglandin, and the pituitary hormones, FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and growth hormone.

Besides straight TRT, using NDT (natural dessicated thyroid) would be one way to enhance steroidogenesis.

 

[Mycophile]

For those of you who have used this, I'm curious: 1) does the amount you need and, most importantly the frequency of usage to stop WD depend on what opioid and dosage you are using?

And then also, 2) how many days in a row would you usually dose SR-17018 in order to stop your WDs? Like, I only use Kratom and would probably not resort to this for such mild WDs, but if I did, and Kratom WD usually lasts my 7-10 days, would I take SR all or most of them, or maybe just a day or two? That would suck having to keep taking it, and with it being such an unknown substance I wouldn't want to use it that frequently and risk unknown dangers.

 

[Allylbenzene]

1) does the amount you need and, most importantly the frequency of usage to stop WD depend on what opioid ... you are using?
...
Like, I only use Kratom ... Kratom WD usually lasts me 7-10 days,

I'm not that familiar with opioids but I know that kratom alkaloids have effects far beyond opioid receptors. Including blocking kappa opioid (KOR) & 5-HT2A whilst activating D2, TRPV1, alpha-2 adrenergic and CB1/CB2. I imagine that this would affect the WD and how effective SR-17018 would be.

Blocking KOR and HT2A is no doubt a significant contributing factor to why people like kratom. The same for the D2, α2-adrenergic and cannabinoid effects.

Alpha-2 adrenergic agonists are able to produce sedation, analgesia, euphoric effects and partially block acute withdrawal symptoms in chronic opioid users.
...
Adding an α2-adrenergic to a sedation regimen reduces opioid requirement by 50–75% and benzodiazepine requirement by upwards of 80%.
— https://doi.org/10.2344/0003-3006-62.1.31

 

[DrChivago]

Why naturally? Naturally would be something like diet & exercise which isn't sufficient for many reasons. I'd say even inappropriate and risky for what you're describing.

What I meant in my original post was using existing drugs & neurosteroids to address the fundamental issues, this works regardless of age. Since these items are all OTC (and fairly cheap) there's no need to rely on doctors for peptides or HRT. Imo the most effective HRT is called pregnenolone (also OTC). It's the first hormone the body makes and is the precursor for all other hormones (testosterone, estrogen, DHEA etc).

This image gives some context for why pregnenolone might be useful as an alternative to TRT and HRT (estrogen + progesterone):

Tirzepatide is effective no doubt but imo gives the illusion of progress. It doesn't necessarily address any of the pre-existing metabolic issues. So post treatment you might easily think that "I look great, everything is healed and it's a miracle" but that might be a false sense of security, and a dangerous one I'd say.

My test situation was initially complicated and unfortunately, will remain that way due the adrenalectomy/nephrectomy. "They"say that you only need one side running @50% to ultimately result in adequate Test for the whole body, but when you factor in years of Opiate abuse you are left with a system that's forgotten how to make it. I've got it under control pretty well ATM w/ substitution/replacement and can easily play around with peptides and diet to make changes necessary to achieved desired results.

Once I finish with the current GLP 1 I'm going to be purchasing retatrutide amd starting a cycle of that. Looks like a really promising compound. It works on three different functions, the main one being burning fat Since I've FINALLY got down to 205 !

 

[PP-80]

Has anyone met sr17 in Europe? I found mentions that the content was not what it should be and the price has been several hundred euros a day.

In a way, it would seem interesting, because the rest of my life as a bupre whore is not interesting and that is what doctors offer

 

[Allylbenzene]

oh yeah, I guess I could do it naturally...

Why naturally? Naturally would be something like diet & exercise which isn't sufficient...for what you're describing.

My test situation was initially complicated and unfortunately, will remain that way due the adrenalectomy/nephrectomy. "They"say that you only need one side running @50% to ultimately result in adequate Test for the whole body, but when you factor in years of Opiate abuse you are left with a system that's forgotten how to make it. I've got it under control pretty well ATM w/ substitution/replacement...

Fair enough, sounds like you had a lot going on.
Yeah naturally wasn't what I meant. Taking a neurosteroid (Pregnenolone) is as "natural" as your TRT but Pregnenolone does a lot more than T and is a precursor for it. We make Pregnenolone which eventually becomes T. It helps to restore the body's hormone production too even after decades of opiates. It just so happens to be OTC and no doubt private drug recovery retreats use it.

 

[sixteenthnight]

Does the SR-17018 come with any psychoactivity? Do you feel something from it?

I had a similar experience with high dosed memantine, it allowed me to withdrew high dose morphine without much misery but there was still tolerance, when I did some morphine 2 months later I felt miserable on the day after.

You feel it somewhat but I don't think you can get any euphoria with it without chasing dangerously stupid high dosages... It's not very effective as an analgesic either.