Opioids Tianeptine Megathread v1

[Draygoes]

I’m glad they banned it here, there was a guy coming up from another state robbing gas stations for it here, a year before they banned it. It was cancer, but the best brand by far was Pegasus then tianna green.

Where's here? Has it been banned in the US at this stage?

 

[Droppersneck]

Where's here? Has it been banned in the US at this stage?

My state, most states in this region have banned it. Think it’s still legal in Kentucky, but I’ve never seen it at the gas stations there though.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

Common drug war W for drugs. The morons in law enforcement and government don’t understand there is nearly an infinite supply of new opioids and other drugs than can be creating using med Chem. This will absolutely never stop. Ban tiantapine and you’ll have something 20x nastier in those gas stations the next day

 

[Droppersneck]

Common drug war W for drugs. The morons in law enforcement and government don’t understand there is nearly an infinite supply of new opioids and other drugs than can be creating using med Chem. This will absolutely never stop. Ban tiantapine and you’ll have something 20x nastier in those gas stations the next day

The reformulation is based on some other seed that creates an opiod effect, but it’s way less effective and harder on the kidneys.

 

[kjob]

I have to stop methadone 130mg/day for the past year and I have gathered memantine,tianeptine,kratom along with 8mg suboxone tablets.I am hoping that a combination of these or just switching from one to one will get me through a month of WD.please send any ideas or help any way you can,thanks - Ken

 

[kjob]

It helps withdrawal from Opiates because it has no cross tolerance. I used it to come off fentnyl. The problem it is addictive because it seems harmless.
It is the worst substance pitchers if abused.

Hi and thanks for your tianeptine post, I need it to help a future methadone WD and so I'm interested in your jump off fent.I am also getting memantine,kratom,subs so anything you can say will help,thanx,Ken

 

[deficiT]

I have to stop methadone 130mg/day for the past year and I have gathered memantine,tianeptine,kratom along with 8mg suboxone tablets.I am hoping that a combination of these or just switching from one to one will get me through a month of WD.please send any ideas or help any way you can,thanks - Ken

I would avoid the tianeptine (too short acting) and it's kind of compulsive.

I would slowly lower your Suboxone dose, until you get to a point where you don't have to take it every day. Then start skipping days and only take it if you really need to. Hold onto the kratom for the lasting PAWS, but don't get into using it daily only as needed. .

That's what's worked for me so far anyway

 

[User145667]

Also, just how addictive do you find it? I'm hearing bad things but I've been a chipper with opioids for a decade. Oxycodone, no problem doing one day and forgetting it. Even heroin I can stop. Though some high potency BTH was more difficult. How does it compare to other opiates?

I use to be able to say the exact same thing (including the BTH part) at least i could back in the day anyways (I've found myself much more suspectable to opiate addiction in the past few years, whereas it used to not bother me to use once and not touch them for weeks or even months), but something about having opiate like substances right at the gas station/ tobacco store seems to make them that much more addictive to me. Tianeptine in either its sodium or sulphate form is garbage, but for some reason when they are combined they feel like legit opiates. I used to use the pure sodium back in the day on probation before anyone knew about the stuff back in 2014, and i would have never dreamed id be addicted to this shit cause I always thought it was a dirt drug (and it kinda is) but like i said, when the two forms are mixed at the right ratios, it feels much more like a real opioid, and add that to the convenience of being found at the gas station and suddenly it becomes a whole new beast. Having a bad day? Go grab a bottle of TD Reds. Now suddenly, every mildly difficult task requires TD Reds/Pegasus Golds. The WDs are unpleasant but not as bad as many make them out to be though

 

[LucasFudge]

Fucking tianeptine "I've slipped onto it once" and I was full on right away it lasted months if I remember right. I can't remember but I must have been taking grams per week and it's short lasting. I'm not sure but package must have been late or something and I went into full psychosis, six months out of life. Just hell. I did bupernorphine 5mg cold turkey once and morphine cold turkey from like 60-80mg per day and I would choose that 100x over that tianeptine shit

 

[brokedownpalace10]

Finally tried Tianeptine in accurate dosages. Weird stuff. I always wondered why people called it "fiendy".
It feels like a slightly dirty Hydrocodone. At 100mg it gives a nicely strong effect.
Almost just as soon as you feel that effect, it starts to fade.
You just have a hangover in an hour or two. I've only done single doses but I could see how you would want to keep things going and that negative, "dirty" effects would likely build.

I'm looking to give what I have left away. It's supposed to take your Kratom tolerance through the roof very quickly and I really value my low Kratom tolerance. I only use Kratom to get work done. I regard Kratom as a tool.

 

[PhoebusLorenzo]

Anyone have experience with smoking or snorting tianeptine?

 

[thurston]

Is Tianeptine withdraw as bad as I'm reading on Reddit? People are saying it's worse than IV heroin WD, is that true? My GF is taking it for back pain and I don't want her getting addicted to something that's has worse than normal opiate WD.

 

[negrogesic]

It's not worse than IV heroin in terms of withdrawal. Cold turkey IV heroin withdrawal was the only opioid withdrawal I experienced where I experienced open-eye hallucinations. I'm not talking subtle visual disturbances but full on immersive psychosis-like states, I looked at the sky and the clouds turned into a three headed dragon, followed by loss of reality/time. I remember seeing stuff like that in movies like Trainspotting and always thought that it was theatrical bullshit till I actually experienced it.

Tianeptine withdrawal doesn't compare to that, but it is pretty miserable. I'd liken it to a less intense version of oxycodone withdrawal (which is awful), but with the big benefit of the acute stage being significantly shorter. The acute symptoms are pretty much done by day 4-5. I mean you still feel bad, but the worst of the storm is over.

That said, tianeptine is extremely addictive, and once you start taking it alot, withdrawal symptoms start appearing only 3-4 hours after dosing.

Is she taking tianeptine powder? For someone not accustomed to opioid withdrawal, tianeptine withdrawal can easily feel like the worst thing that they have ever experienced

 

[meeer]

It's not worse than IV heroin in terms of withdrawal. Cold turkey IV heroin withdrawal was the only opioid withdrawal I experienced where I experienced open-eye hallucinations. I'm not talking subtle visual disturbances but full on immersive psychosis-like states, I looked at the sky and the clouds turned into a three headed dragon, followed by loss of reality/time. I remember seeing stuff like that in movies like Trainspotting and always thought that it was theatrical bullshit till I actually experienced it.

Tianeptine withdrawal doesn't compare to that, but it is pretty miserable. I'd liken it to a less intense version of oxycodone withdrawal (which is awful), but with the big benefit of the acute stage being significantly shorter. The acute symptoms are pretty much done by day 4-5. I mean you still feel bad, but the worst of the storm is over.

That said, tianeptine is extremely addictive, and once you start taking it alot, withdrawal symptoms start appearing only 3-4 hours after dosing.

Is she taking tianeptine powder? For someone not accustomed to opioid withdrawal, tianeptine withdrawal can easily feel like the worst thing they've experienced

Hey not 1 thing wrong with what I read here not like I am anyone to verify over anyone else, but this maybe shouldn't be under tag opiate as it is if I'm not incorrect a quite unique atypical tricyclic antidepressant, but thought it might be worth adding the caveat that the withdrawal symptoms however unusual, for some people do not appear from their first few times using it as medically prescribed, of course this (If I'm correct should not be a cold turkey if possible for the same reasons of SSRI's MAOI's and so fourth although it works a little uniquely different to those).

I am happy to see and encourage in every single way the concern and respect for the use of it in the first place due to possible side affects.

 

[thurston]

She had been taking 1 of the "red" capsules that are available in smoke shops in the US 1-2 times a day. I read that those are about 100mg or so each. Those are too expensive so I ordered some capsules that are supposed to be 25mg each which she said feel weaker than the "red" capsules. We've only had tye 25mg capsules for a few days and she is cautious so she has not experimented with multiple capsules at one time. She will only take what is necessary for pain relief.

I hope you understand what I mean by the "red" capsules.

Edit: I have been through sub, kratom and hydrocodone WD several times over the last 15 years. I took the "red" pills 3x a day for about two weeks for a compressed nerve root after I ran out of the small norco supply the dr gave me and experience very manageable wd.


For the record 1 or 2 days of any opiate use will cause mild flu symptoms for me so I'm not the best judge of a substance's ability to cause WD, no worse than the if I had taken the same amount of just norco.

 

[negrogesic]

She had been taking 1 of the "red" capsules that are available in smoke shops in the US 1-2 times a day. I read that those are about 100mg or so each. Those are too expensive so I ordered some capsules that are supposed to be 25mg each which she said feel weaker than the "red" capsules. We've only had tye 25mg capsules for a few days and she is cautious so she has not experimented with multiple capsules at one time. She will only take what is necessary for pain relief.

I hope you understand what I mean by the "red" capsules.

Edit: I have been through sub, kratom and hydrocodone WD several times over the last 15 years. I took the "red" pills 3x a day for about two weeks for a compressed nerve root after I ran out of the small norco supply the dr gave me and experience very manageable wd.


For the record 1 or 2 days of any opiate use will cause mild flu symptoms for me so I'm not the best judge of a substance's ability to cause WD, no worse than the if I had taken the same amount of just norco.

Yeah I know what you mean by "red", you're talking about the gas station tianeptine, like "tianna" or other names. I've actually never seen it first hand as I guess they don't sell that shit around here, but I've heard plenty about it.

If she can actually keep it to 1 to 2 pills a day it's not the biggest deal in the world. But tolerance forms quick so not sure how realistic it is. Can you not get kratom in your area? That would be a better alternative. While kratom is addictive, it's not on the level of tianeptine. Kratom is also much cheaper per dose.

 

[negrogesic]

Hey not 1 thing wrong with what I read here not like I am anyone to verify over anyone else, but this maybe shouldn't be under tag opiate as it is if I'm not incorrect a quite unique atypical tricyclic antidepressant, but thought it might be worth adding the caveat that the withdrawal symptoms however unusual, for some people do not appear from their first few times using it as medically prescribed, of course this (If I'm correct should not be a cold turkey if possible for the same reasons of SSRI's MAOI's and so fourth although it works a little uniquely different to those).

I am happy to see and encourage in every single way the concern and respect for the use of it in the first place due to possible side affects.

While tianeptine is technically a tricyclic antidepressant by classification, its mechanism of action is very different than related compounds. It is virtually devoid of direct serotonergic activity, yet has notable activity as opioid agonist.

At prescribed doses, the opioid activity, though still contributory to its antidepressant, is not significant to produce typical narcotic effects. Only at higher doses, much higher than prescribed, does the pronounced opioid activity become strongly apparent.

So in context to a website of this nature, tianeptine certainly meets the opioid tag criteria, because almost all discussions here about tianeptine revolve around its use at narcotic doses.

 

[meeer]

While tianeptine is technically a tricyclic antidepressant by classification, its mechanism of action is very different than related compounds. It is virtually devoid of direct serotonergic activity, yet has notable activity as opioid agonist.

At prescribed doses, the opioid activity, though still contributory to its antidepressant, is not significant to produce typical narcotic effects. Only at higher doses, much higher than prescribed, does the pronounced opioid activity become strongly apparent.

So in context to a website of this nature, tianeptine certainly meets the opioid tag criteria, because almost all discussions here about tianeptine revolve around its use at narcotic doses.

Apologies assumed the rules would be more leaning to clarity and no disinformation kinda thing that they'd wanna have it not classed as but im thinkin a little to analytical maybe, otherwise. Great information and I love to learn something new so thank you for your information and ill look further into it. I do appreciate your input i have seen very little to no research here in Australia on its opiate binding or anything not that is much covered or prescribed here as far as im aware.

 

[thurston]

Yeah I know what you mean by "red", you're talking about the gas station tianeptine, like "tianna" or other names. I've actually never seen it first hand as I guess they don't sell that shit around here, but I've heard plenty about it.

If she can actually keep it to 1 to 2 pills a day it's not the biggest deal in the world. But tolerance forms quick so not sure how realistic it is. Can you not get kratom in your area? That would be a better alternative. While kratom is addictive, it's not on the level of tianeptine. Kratom is also much cheaper per dose.

Yes we can get kratom but she hates the side effects, it gives her all kinds of weird chest feelings.

 

[suspool]

anyone mixed meth with Tia? I’m reading a lot of people experiencing stimulant effects from tianepetine, but I always found it to be more on the calming side. Anyways yeah was given some free ice today, did it, and after a productive day at work I’d like to chill out some. I don’t have access to any other drugs worth mentioning so I grabbed Benadryl and some of the Neptune Elixer tinctures. I genuinely cannot find anything on the interactions between meth and Tia. Has anyone here ever used the two together?