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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy DOC Thread - Third opinion

That permatolerance is a bitch. Yeah, even after that concert we were doing some lines of K that my friend brought, and he was going on and on about how much he loved ketamine, and how good he was feeling, and he just got all lit up and had a good old time. Beforehand he was telling me about how good the stuff was. I personally maybe caught a buzz off the first line, but other than that, really didn't matter it just hardly affected me. I think maybe if I'm doing ketamine I just need to do one big fat line instead of a handful of smaller ones. When I did k for the first time in half a year a couple weeks ago, it was chronic and I did a huge amount by accident. THAT got me really fucked up. But since then, I haven't really gotten as high from k or 2fdck.
Dmxe was pretty good though. Idk, I've never been crazy about k, with all of the other cool dissos out there it always felt lackluster to me, requiring really high doses to really take you there.

Oh ok, well yeah, with the similar timeline, I thought it might be interesting to at some point combine Amt and doc. If it's safe in combo with psychs I think that sounds like it could be interesting.

I feel the same about ketamine. I have had some amazing experiences on it, but a number of dissos are much better, IMO, especially MXE. Also most ketamine I come across that friends give me is cut to absolute shit, like most popular drugs in America these days.

While I have not personally tried to combine them (and have yet to try either substance), Psychonautwiki and tripsit.me both claim that AMT is unsafe when combined with DOXs. People who combine AMT and 2Cs certainly don't seem to have very safe or enjoyable experiences.

I've combined AMT with 2C-B and also with 2C-C a number of times and never had any issues. I'd be more cautious about DOXs, but one of my best trips, I accidentally did 2mg of DOC while on both AMT and LSD (I was kinda freaking out because of a weird/uncomfortable situation at a music festival I was at, and thought the DOC was etizolam because I was in the dark and the bottles looked the same, I proceeded to freak out even more since I was already tripping insanely hard, but then I took actual etizolam and 20 minutes later I came out of my anxiety and proceeded to have an incredible trip for the next 2 days, just absolutely great. Of course I wouldn't recommend that!)
 
I feel the same about ketamine. I have had some amazing experiences on it, but a number of dissos are much better, IMO, especially MXE. Also most ketamine I come across that friends give me is cut to absolute shit, like most popular drugs in America these days.



I've combined AMT with 2C-B and also with 2C-C a number of times and never had any issues. I'd be more cautious about DOXs, but one of my best trips, I accidentally did 2mg of DOC while on both AMT and LSD (I was kinda freaking out because of a weird/uncomfortable situation at a music festival I was at, and thought the DOC was etizolam because I was in the dark and the bottles looked the same, I proceeded to freak out even more since I was already tripping insanely hard, but then I took actual etizolam and 20 minutes later I came out of my anxiety and proceeded to have an incredible trip for the next 2 days, just absolutely great. Of course I wouldn't recommend that!)
Wowsers. This sounds like something my ex wife would do.

Idk if I've told anyone about this on here, but there were multiple instances of her either going through my shit and accidentally ingesting the wrong thing, or just improperly using my materials and doing so.

Multiple times she thought she was ingesting a stimulant, like meth, or any other random stimulant I may have had, and accidentally ingesting a dissociative. I know of two instances in the past year before we broke up where she did that, one of the times she had to call off of work because of it. The other time I guess she just trucked through work somehow, mind you she doesn't have a disso tolerance like I do or anything at all.

And then there was one other time, and this could maybe somewhat be blamed on me, for not cleaning up properly after weighing very sensitive chemicals, but also like, I didn't expect anyone to go through and use my scale or my cards. But she did, after I had already left for the day. And she went to do a shot of meth, and used a playing card, or some other scale device, after I had made some solutions of 25b-nboh and 25e-nboh. And yeah, she said she just started tripping balls immediately. She said she was really freaked out at first, but after she settled into it, it wasn't a terrible time. We're really lucky that it was only that, because it could've been a lot worse.

I've already told my current gf, that she is simply NOT to go through any of my stuff, because she could really hurt herself if she fucks with my stuff improperly or accidentally ingests something she doesn't mean to. I personally don't think she would, she's pretty good about that. I mean, even though she likes rolling, at no point in going through my stash of MDMA did she take any from me, and she was alone with my stash plenty.

So yeah folks, moral of the story, don't be a fucking doofus!
 
I'm considering pairing DOC with 2C-D I'm thinking it will be a good combination for a day of creative output. Has anyone combined these two successfully?
 
I have not tried, but I bet it would work well.
Agreed, in moderation (primarily with the DOx dose, which you don’t want to be too high regardless of if you’re combining it with anything) DOxs + 2Cs should go well together.

I’m interested to see how those two combine (especially for creative productivity), so make sure to let us know how it goes. Hope you have a good trip @sin_is_synthetic!
 
I combined DOC and LSD once, but it was part of an epic polydrug binge and the DOC was an accident (thought it was etizolam) so I can't really report on specifics of the combo. Seems like it would work well but you'd want to watch out for vasoconstriction.
 
I combined DOC and LSD last weekend, mostly because the 2mg DOC pill I had didn't really do as much for me as I'd like (possibly under dosed). It was definitely a good combo though, I dosed the LSD (200ug) about 3 hours in. Didn't notice any vasoconstriction although I did take L-arginine beforehand.
 
I combined DOC and LSD last weekend, mostly because the 2mg DOC pill I had didn't really do as much for me as I'd like (possibly under dosed). It was definitely a good combo though, I dosed the LSD (200ug) about 3 hours in. Didn't notice any vasoconstriction although I did take L-arginine beforehand.

Its like mixing coke and Pepsi, not bad but not great either i guess.
However i have found mixing small amounts of 25xnbomes with lsd quite rewarding.
Made the nbome allt more interesting then alone.
So i guess it could be similar with doc + lsd.
Im still waiting for a good day to mix doc with 4acodmt.
The perfect day would be a hike and camping on doc.
Then during the evening att camp i could dose 4acodmt and just do ket and nitrous at the fire in the dark.

I suspect it will remind of mushrooms + dan Pedro.
 
Any major difference in duration from different roas?
I really love doc but the duration makes it not very practical to use often.

Maybe doing low doses with addition of other subs to increase psychedelia would be a good idea.

Doc is awesome at around 3mg, however its a long ride.
Im thinking about doing around 1,5mg and then add something else during the peak.

That way i could hopefully sleep around +12-15h after dosing.
 
For me, 12-15 hours is never gonna happen, but I get insomnia for a long time after psychedelics compared to most. 1.5mg is still a full trip and will keep me up for 20+ hours.

I imagine smoking t might result in a shorter duration but haven't really heard any reports that I can remember of that ROA. I have heard good things about snorting, and I imagine that would reduce the duration to some extent.
 
Yep, quite clearheaded. As I said in the social thread, it's my absolute favorite festival drug, hands down. It's perfect for festivals because it's euphoric, and I feel social on it. I always end up making friends and hanging out with various people I've never met before.
 
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