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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Eticyclidone / 2‘-Oxo-PCE Thread

xaxex said:
what do you think about taking probiotic with 2-oxo-pce, would it smooth its antiobiotic properties.
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bump on this for users and abusers... anyone else sick (sick) and using?

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[MENTION=84481]dxm[/MENTION].. plateaus maybe mock feelings and experience but would not group with 3meo being similar..
the disso perspective spectrum is way wide.. mania triggers and all..

yes dxm can go the limits, yes its otc legal... wonky could say the same with 3meopcp
but please dont equivalent and group it like that someone naive will jump from cvs to pcp.. no..no..no..

maybe at micro therapeutic use.. as i use for cough.. but srs noo
 
After 2 month use of 2-oxo-pce I had uti, so I think about taking Lactobacillus L. rhamnosus probiotic to prevent uti.
 
Taking probiotics with antibiotics generally doesn't do a whole lot from what I understand, I would think its hard to maintain proper intestinal flora when you are bombarding your system with antibiotic. I'm still unclear on if this compound is actually antibiotic or antiviral, and to what extent. I'm definitely not gonna guinea pig this one though, too many unknowns. Sucks cause it seems fun, but I guess I really don't need more drugs.

Xaxex, there are many herbs that would likely be much more useful in preventing uti and keeping organs healthy. PM me if you want specific info. I've been thinking of starting a thread with a list of herbs that have traditionally been used to maintain organ functions, or perhaps an herbal tea blend that might mollify some of the negative effects of disso abuse, like frequent uti's. Not sure where to post it though and don't want to be thought of as giving medical advice. It's just that it takes years of study to even begin to scratch the surface of understanding the organ systems in the body and how to keep them healthy; even more study to understand which herbs to use and when and why, and I am worried about long term toll on all these crazy motherfuckers binging on novel dissos (myself included). Obviously drinking tea won't magically prevent illness from mashing one's body and mind, but the detoxifying and tonifying properties of certain herbs could be reallyyyy helpful here.
 
DubNaut said:
bump on this for users and abusers... anyone else sick (sick) and using?
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It seemed to be more of an antiviral rather than an antibiotic...from what I read of the original study.

I used for a month and was living pretty unhealthily. I didn't get sick...not even a cold. Or a cold sore. Or even a zit.

So who knows. The study wasn't very thorough or convincing. I wouldn't put much weight on it.
 
xaxex said:
After 2 month use of 2-oxo-pce I had uti, so I think about taking Lactobacillus L. rhamnosus probiotic to prevent uti.
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I was having a weird bladder pressure after using o pce. Which then started happening on 3 meo pcp. Strangely no real issues with mxe or k(although i am not using grams on grams of this)

I think I have had undiagnosed/weird uti issues for like 15 years tho. Doctors always say it aint shit and here eat these antibiotics... quit going to them years ago.

Recently i started taking olive leaf extract. It was pretty brutal. Felt like it was destroying some caked upon layers of bacteria and releasing them into my body. I would take activated charcoal as well, wich helped to mitogate these symptoms. It seemed to really fuck with my digestive system though. I cycled taking them for a week or two, then a week or two off with a few days fasting/intestinal flushing.

Seems to havr made a marked difference. I will probably start another cycle soon.

Fuck these doctors Nd their antibiotics. There are many other ways to cure utis and their ilk.
 
Ziiirp said:
Speedy sounds good. I insufflated once, but not enough. Only had physical effects.
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If you are after stimulant effects just stick to 3-MeO-PCP. This one is not suited for that. Snorted high is lackluster.
 
40mg sublingual followed by 10mg intranasal left me with a neverending trip with countless of thought loops. Note to self, I will never go over 35-40mg again. I couldn't even close my eyes, it was extremely weird. (You know that feeling "I will stay like this forever") I had to take 2x etizolam to sleep. It's weird because the same ROA but with 30 + 10 previous week was really comfortable, not stimulating at all and I slept without any effort. 10mg made a big difference.
 
I experienced some bad after effects last weekend.
I ingested 8 mg orally on saturday evening. This was my second time with O-PCE and everything went as with my first time two weeks before (10 mg): Nice dissociative high and that special, long lasting silence in my head at the comedown which I also like a lot about 3-Meo-PCP.
Slept for 7h and next morning I got up feeling quite refreshed. After half an hour I suddenly started vomitting and from then on the whole morning and afternoon every hour. The weird thing is that I wasn't nauseous at all. I was feeling quite ok physically and mentally just not the 10 seconds before my next run to the toilet.
Has anyone experienced that?
 
Found this interesting, but nothing on ketamine and that's all it seems to be a replacement for. Much more amnesia and really felt like key parts that made it recreational are missing. Also much more nausea, was forced to lie down.

This has had no interaction with the tolerance of 3-meo-pce or ketamine however if anyone is interested to hear.
 
vonLaue said:
I experienced some bad after effects last weekend.
I ingested 8 mg orally on saturday evening. This was my second time with O-PCE and everything went as with my first time two weeks before (10 mg): Nice dissociative high and that special, long lasting silence in my head at the comedown which I also like a lot about 3-Meo-PCP.
Slept for 7h and next morning I got up feeling quite refreshed. After half an hour I suddenly started vomitting and from then on the whole morning and afternoon every hour. The weird thing is that I wasn't nauseous at all. I was feeling quite ok physically and mentally just not the 10 seconds before my next run to the toilet.
Has anyone experienced that?
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Sounds awful. Thanks for the warning. I totally regret getting this shit. Usually I never fall for hypes.
 
vonLaue said:
I experienced some bad after effects last weekend.
I ingested 8 mg orally on saturday evening. This was my second time with O-PCE and everything went as with my first time two weeks before (10 mg): Nice dissociative high and that special, long lasting silence in my head at the comedown which I also like a lot about 3-Meo-PCP.
Slept for 7h and next morning I got up feeling quite refreshed. After half an hour I suddenly started vomitting and from then on the whole morning and afternoon every hour. The weird thing is that I wasn't nauseous at all. I was feeling quite ok physically and mentally just not the 10 seconds before my next run to the toilet.
Has anyone experienced that?
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Well that is weird. I didn't even have the slightest neusea on 50mg. Are you sure it is drug related? Considering you ingested a small amount without having any bad reaction during the trip or sleep.
 
pandahaze said:
Well that is weird. I didn't even have the slightest neusea on 50mg. Are you sure it is drug related? Considering you ingested a small amount without having any bad reaction during the trip or sleep.
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I'm having awesome effects without nausea or body load at 30-40mg without problems. Batch is pure, Energy Control says... maybe your o-PCE is not o-PCE?
 
About these nasty effects... I am almost convinced there is one batch around containing some kind of impurities. So is mine, purchased from an European source already closed. That is the reason I am not using this substance anymore. It was too caustic in my mouth (I got a couple ulcers from just a 10 mg. dose) and the next day after effects were more a hangover than an afterglow.
When I have some time, I will do an acetone wash of my stuff and see if this makes it better.
 
MSK said:
I'm having awesome effects without nausea or body load at 30-40mg without problems. Batch is pure, Energy Control says... maybe your o-PCE is not o-PCE?
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I have no lab -test of my substance. All I can say is it's a highly potent dissociative (that tastes foul :p). The O-PCE two weeks before was taken in two steps of 5 mg three hours apart. Still this time's 8 mg felt way heavier.
But you're right, maybe there was somthing else going on with me physically that made me puke my guts out. Maybe not.
Still I'm kind of conditioned by that experience now and will stay with 3-Meo-PCP from now.
 
vonLaue said:
I have no lab -test of my substance. All I can say is it's a highly potent dissociative (that tastes foul :p). The O-PCE two weeks before was taken in two steps of 5 mg three hours apart. Still this time's 8 mg felt way heavier.
But you're right, maybe there was somthing else going on with me physically that made me puke my guts out. Maybe not.
Still I'm kind of conditioned by that experience now and will stay with 3-Meo-PCP from now.
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well if you're experiencing effects at 8mg batch should be really pure, maybe impurities from synth or something? Or, as we all know, every body and mind is different and what is transparent in my body can be a body load on your case ;)

BTW I'm with you at all. I fell in love with o-PCE on first trial, and thought it would be my next MXE, but it turned out I'm doing 3-MeO-PCP quite often and can't remember the last time I wanted to dose o-PCE. I use it as a potentiator for psychedelic trips, but on his own, for me, it lacks something :(
 
I am still loving it for adding in. I don't regret getting it, it just loses a lot after awhile.

Last time I took it on its own I saw a show, it worked as well as alcohol... but that says something about it.

I never really experienced neasua or vomiting much, at least that I would attribute to the drug. my doses went from small to quite large but everyone reacts differently.
 
I really like this one too actually. If I don't go above 40, everything is perfect. But over that point and also doing a redose kind a ruins it for me.
 
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