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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Eticyclidone / 2‘-Oxo-PCE Thread

damnn, I found that o pce had strong sert action when combined, turning 3mmc into a highly seratogenic and rolly experience making it feel like mdma light. With the advantage being having an afterglow, and being able to go to bed an hour or two after my final dose.
very very euphoric, very empathogenic and social, and friendly but none of the couchlocky mindfuck that mdma or mda might have
 
Hi tryptamight, nice to find you here also.

Just leaving my 2cents here. Be careful with OPCE, seems pretty great in the beginning but gets fucking addictive and tolerance goes up fast. It's dangerous.

Keep safe.
 
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I'm actually about to get 500ish mg of 2cp in a trade, do you have any recommendations of what I should do while I'm on it? (other than going to bars and fucking), because I'm a little worried about the duration of it.Also originally wanted to say that I tried vaped opce for the first time today and it feels very very similar to a slightly more intense ket for me
Maybe try to connect with people from other places, other situations, other times? Do some reading before. Pick some music that fits the theme. Get lost in emotion.

For example, the Inuit and the sufferings they've had to endure under the Brits. Music would be Willie Thrasher.

Definitely try to connect to other places, cultures and times. Pure magic.
 
^^^

i totally do this on dissos, especially the 'hole'ier ones like o-pce.

they really allow me to conceptualize and internalize the experiences of others. really mentally wear their shoes.

i also love nature documentaries on them, especially ones that emphasize biome destruction and other horrible things we do to other animal, our brethren.

also, brian eno's 'music for airports' slowed down is purrrrrrfect for near- holes.
 
Hi tryptamight, nice to find you here also.

Just leaving my 2cents here. Be careful with OPCE, seems pretty great in the beginning but gets fucking addictive and tolerance goes up fast. It's dangerous.

Keep safe.
Hey there! nice to see you as well. Don't worry i haven't used it since my battery died and i never set up or bought a new one, but i absolutely see where your coming from, so easy to use that one
 
Alright i decided to order a g of opce. haven't done it in like 8 years so can't recall much other than its quite potent. my last run with 3-meo-pce was unfortunately underwhelming. Went through a whole g and just couldn't find the magic. Last time i got o-pce a few months back, the vendor admitted it was a bad synth after he tested it. i'd try to vape it and all i'd get was some minor dissociation and a few other times i lost control of my motor skills and fell over.

Anyways, I got a g coming from a trusted source that's been tested. quite pricey, but the potency sort of makes up for it. i have an insurmountable dissos tolerance and plan on trying to IV some. i briefly read through the thread and saw IV use was mentioned a couple times. What's a good dosage for me to start at. I was thinking 10mg. Not quite sure what the bioavailabilities are for this compound. I'd rather go IV or vape in order to avoid the long lasting residual effects.
 
Dang, I haven’t IV’d opce since 2017 but I remember 10mg being more than enough back then, could be another bad synth?

I would not recommend IVing 40mg
 
Okay so I'm fairly certain my source provides pure o-pce. They look like little small white crystals. Now I see a lot of folks saying if 40mg doesn't destroy u it's bad material. I ate 38mg and had a mild experience, but I do have a massive tolerance. i'll try plugging 40mg later
 
40mg would have me in the psych ward! I believe the best roa for O-PCE is vaped, provides a nitrous like onset and a reduced duration. I have seen it referred to as "disso crack", be careful.

Wasn't my cup of tea but many rank it as their favourite.
 
So the first reference on the Wikipedia page says this is schedule 1 in Canada, but it links to a section that was repealed, and if you go the the previous version of the page I don't even think it ever applied to O-PCE in the first place (Claude 3 agrees, though I'm no chemistry expert).

If there's anyone here that edits Wikipedia articles this might be a good one to look at. :)
 
Does anybody know if O-PCE vaped still provides an afterglow? Which ROA is known to provide the longest lasting afterglow/does anybody have any general thoughts on the topic of OPCE's antidepressant effect?
 
Hey y'all

I just checked my blood results for an unrelated issue after maybe 10 days of O-pce binging. 600mg
First time
Never had any negative effects from a dissosciative substance but my Eonisiphil count has been eradicated as per a blood test fhat was taken recently
I think my last trip was 36 hours before the blood draw
You can see previous draws there with normal counts.

I have another blood test scheduled for the 15th but missed a call from my nurse

Can anyone tell me the outcomes other people have experienced with this issue? I could have sworn seeing a post or two like that years ago but it seemed isolated, I convinced myself that it was a leaser risk thsn it was apparently

Did people stop doing the drug and recover, or did these people need hospital stays for this?

Edit/Update: my docs just say to stop all extra/supplements drugs and to come get new tests in a month. Alcohol also lowers this type of blood cell marker, so my experience doesnt prove anti-biotic action. It shows its not healthy, though.
 
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I'm going to veer off to talk about MXIpr but i want to say that O-PCE was truly extremely visual for me, more so than any other arylcyclohexylamine, it was on par with a strong LSD trip. I remember lying in bed very calm but seeing 3d rainbow dreiduls rotating in perfect clarity. When I came out of it (quite manic) I was pretty set on scuba diving the Nile delta area in Egypt. That sadly hasn't happened yet.

Sounds like a nice vacation.
honestly when i came back.... I was in a disso psychosis. I was convinced this reality was fake and the toroid was true reality... I had a friend tell me Ill be normal in a few days and he was right. For those 3 days tho... I was unstable to say the least.

I'll try and pull up the TR, but it was insane coming back. the toroid turned into colors, and the lines became like waves and then i heard the ocean and i was watching the ocean, and then I remembered the word/name "Ally" (the girl I was in love with), before I even remembered my own name. When I opened my eyes, I was staring at my fireplace in colorado. Arylcyclohexylamines are fucking wild.

I really try not to use with frequency.

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So I dont use dissos frequently, but a few days ago I had one the most psychedelic experience of my life.

I'd been doing small lines of 2FDCK over a few hrs, prolly 150mg or so and I walked my friend home. When I got back I felt like I could handle a little bit more, so I pulled out a 50mg sample of MXipr and insufflated it. I may have taken a toke of dmt, when I came to it had been moved.

Anyway I had a complete OBE spiritual experience. I'm honestly still a bit in shock and just exhausted but it's been about 36 hrs. Umm in a nutshell, I basically became aware that I was a single point of conciousness In the center of a massive toroid structure. Withikely trillions of colored lines that were constantly moving. I spent easily 10,000 years in a state of complete nirvana before remembering my original existence and as soon as I had a memory of it, I started to slide down one of the millions of colored lines of the toroid. As I moved I watched all the other lines moving in a different way and they started turning into these waveforms and then into water. Which I realized was the ocean. I could hear it as well. Then I remembered someone I love, and then I remembered who I was, and that I can control my body with my mind so I opened my eyes to find myself in my little house 1000s of miles away. I've never had such an experience and I've had several breakthrough experiences with 5 meo dmt."
 
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honestly when i came back.... I was in a disso psychosis. I was convinced this reality was fake and the toroid was true reality... I had a friend tell me Ill be normal in a few days and he was right. For those 3 days tho... I was unstable to say the least.

I'll try and pull up the TR, but it was insane coming back. the toroid turned into colors, and the lines became like waves and then i heard the ocean and i was watching the ocean, and then I remembered the word/name "Ally" (the girl I was in love with), before I even remembered my own name. When I opened my eyes, I was staring at my fireplace in colorado. Arylcyclohexylamines are fucking wild.

I really try not to use with frequency.

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So I dont use dissos frequently, but a few days ago I had one the most psychedelic experience of my life.

I'd been doing small lines of 2FDCK over a few hrs, prolly 150mg or so and I walked my friend home. When I got back I felt like I could handle a little bit more, so I pulled out a 50mg sample of MXipr and insufflated it. I may have taken a toke of dmt, when I came to it had been moved.

Anyway I had a complete OBE spiritual experience. I'm honestly still a bit in shock and just exhausted but it's been about 36 hrs. Umm in a nutshell, I basically became aware that I was a single point of conciousness In the center of a massive toroid structure. Withikely trillions of colored lines that were constantly moving. I spent easily 10,000 years in a state of complete nirvana before remembering my original existence and as soon as I had a memory of it, I started to slide down one of the millions of colored lines of the toroid. As I moved I watched all the other lines moving in a different way and they started turning into these waveforms and then into water. Which I realized was the ocean. I could hear it as well. Then I remembered someone I love, and then I remembered who I was, and that I can control my body with my mind so I opened my eyes to find myself in my little house 1000s of miles away. I've never had such an experience and I've had several breakthrough experiences with 5 meo dmt."



But seriously though.

To me it sounds like you passed through non-duality. Maybe.

Well, maybe not maybe. But either yes-no or no-yes. Maybe.

Sometimes it’s difficult to tell the difference between order and chaos. But if it feels like order, it’s probably chaos, and if it feels like chaos, it’s probably order.

As far as I can tell, anyway. 🧙‍♀️

(Maybe.)

They say time flies when you’re having fun. But you have to be careful. If you have too much fun, you may end up doing everything everywhere all at once. You can come out of the other side of infinity perfectly sane if you remember zero of it. But don’t let that make you think the voices in your head won’t remember.

I find that seeking boredom can feel like a meaningful remedy to having had too much fun. But you have to be careful. If you find too much boredom, you may end up stuck doing nothing nowhere forever. You can come out the other side of zero completely insane if you remember infinity for it. And once you remember that, it might be pretty hard to forget.

I might not be the best guide though. Sometimes it’s hard for me to tell the difference between sanity and insanity.

Incidentally, I recommend smoking salvia.

Happy Halloween. 🎃
 
Just received a gram of O-PCE. This time it seems to be legit. The crystal formations are distinct and clean. I had 35mg of 2-fma about 6 hours ago. I used to mix stims and dissos before, but was always on benzos and i haven’t tried actual o-pce. I’ve heard it’s more stimulating than others, is this true? Planning on vaping it.
 
Finally, this batch is the real deal. Just tried vaping some and I enjoyed it more than I anticipated. Took me back to those manic nights I longed for. Interesting substance.

Subsequent hits sort of pile on top of each other. Comes on in about 15 second upon exhale.
 
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