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That will fuck your brain up pretty bad after a while. It wouldn't even take very long.
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Comedowns, Serotonin Syndrome and MDMA abuse (plus problems after use)
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BlueBull
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This is true, at least for me an anyone else I know that tried this. It kind of makes you stuck in the comeup phase for a few hours. Really not cool. It would also probably be very unhealthy yeah, you would probably feel like shit in a very short amount of time
Formidable
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ok i hate to be the elephant in the room but there is evidence that proves mdma at low doses can be an effective treatment for things like ptsd and extreme anxiety, which are things benzos are prescribed every day for. this evidence however involves using pharmaceutical grade mdma in a controlled setting, but regardless it's been proven to work.
BlueBull
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agreed, but there is a difference between low doses and multiple low doses a day, repeated over multiple days or weeks. The second one is I think much more harmful and counterproductive
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It would be cool if one kept the dose low enough that MDMA was just as benign as LSD. That's what I had in mind when I created this thread. M only experience with MDMA is low dose MDMA, and it certainly feels benign. Are you guy sure a person can't take really, really low doses throughout the day and be just fine?
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This is not wrong, but the OP says "multiple times per day," and the evidence you're referring to does not support that kind of use. To the contrary, all evidence points to frequent MDMA use being harmful rather than helpful.
Taking microgram-scale doses of MDMA probably won't have any effect on you at all. Knock yourself out. It will not be a substitute for benzos, though.
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A very weird comedown after rolling - please read
Okay so after taking more mdma than I ever have before, I'm starting to feel weird effects on this comedown. I've taken this one before, and didn't have a comedown at all so I'm confused as to why this is happening. I went to a 2 day festival/event and on NYE I took 1 pill (half and half) and did the same thing new years night. The rolls were damn good and I didn't have a comedown the first two days. By jan 4th I got a cold, and the comedown started. It's a rather weird one though, I feel as if I'm not actually in my body and someone else is controlling it for me, I'm sleeping way too much and even though I'm not tired I can pass out in an instant which I usually cannot. When I stand up for too long, I get dizzy and feel like I'm getting numb and when I touch my face or hands, my height of sensitivity is gone and it feels like I'm barely touching myself. I'm also pooping waaaay more than normal and its not regular poops, they're weird. Now, this is all coupled with a cold, driving home after the event on about 6hrs of sleep versus 18hrs of driving with 1 stop for 3hrs of sleep and eating chips. I just feel really weird and it won't go away. This is only my 4th time rolling but I'm planning on taking a very long break because I never want to feel this way again.
Okay so after taking more mdma than I ever have before, I'm starting to feel weird effects on this comedown. I've taken this one before, and didn't have a comedown at all so I'm confused as to why this is happening. I went to a 2 day festival/event and on NYE I took 1 pill (half and half) and did the same thing new years night. The rolls were damn good and I didn't have a comedown the first two days. By jan 4th I got a cold, and the comedown started. It's a rather weird one though, I feel as if I'm not actually in my body and someone else is controlling it for me, I'm sleeping way too much and even though I'm not tired I can pass out in an instant which I usually cannot. When I stand up for too long, I get dizzy and feel like I'm getting numb and when I touch my face or hands, my height of sensitivity is gone and it feels like I'm barely touching myself. I'm also pooping waaaay more than normal and its not regular poops, they're weird. Now, this is all coupled with a cold, driving home after the event on about 6hrs of sleep versus 18hrs of driving with 1 stop for 3hrs of sleep and eating chips. I just feel really weird and it won't go away. This is only my 4th time rolling but I'm planning on taking a very long break because I never want to feel this way again.
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Can you tell us more about your poop when you say it's "weird" now?
festyvalgoer
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It's just not solid. Its like halfway between a regular poop and diarrhea
festyvalgoer
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But I'm just assuming thats because of my poor diet during this trip... I'm more concerned about the whole dizzy, not being able to feel normal thing. But if you have any input on the pooping issue please do give. haha.
poop fetishists disgust me..
First time MDMA user - comedown help?
First time MDMA user here. Just looking for a little bit of feedback. About 6 days ago (last Friday) I tried MDMA for the first time and my friend assured me it was clean, but powerful stuff. I was also a bit drunk, so naturally I said sure. Everything was great and the experience was nice, and the two days after I felt just fine, if not happier than normal (I guess what people refer to as afterglow?) Anyway, Tuesday night the comedown hit me..Had an anxiety attack but it faded, and then the following night I got hit with some depression for a few hours but then it subsided. Last night (yesterday) I felt much better overall but still a bit foggy and out of it, not really feeling myself and just overall not enthusiastic and very lethargic, also poor memory. And today as I am typing this, my head feels clearer and the mood swings are much less powerful but they are still there (mostly in mornings and evenings) but overall im able to "feel" more but still not normally. I have read many forums now and it seems these are all very common symptoms of low serotonin in the brain, how long does the body take to get back to normal levels? I'm still getting some anxiety and/or nausea in the mornings after I wake up for a little bit then it goes away. Oh, my appetite is almost non-existent as well. So I guess what I'm asking is, how much longer will these symptoms last? (I have been feeling them for about 3 days now) And are there any suggestions on expediting this process or lessening these symptoms? And I have been exercising a lot, taking 5htp (200mg a day) and lots of vitamins as well, and melatonin to help sleep. Alcohol helps but I am avoiding it at all costs. Trying to eat what I can force down. Today my mind certainly feels much "clearer" but im still not quite feeling myself, and I might also note I am not drinking caffeine which I usually have a LOT of so I know those withdrawals certainly have their effects as well. Should I have anything to worry about or will it all go away in a day or two more? Needless to say, had a great experience on the drug, but after feeling this comedown I will never be touching another drug in my life again, and if anything its an eye opening experience to feel what its like to truly be depressed and made me realize how happy I am as a person and I am grateful for that! Not that its unbearable or anything, I just don't like feeling this way at all and its quite frustrating and a tad scary. Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated
Also any other suggestions on helping sleep other than melatonin?
First time MDMA user here. Just looking for a little bit of feedback. About 6 days ago (last Friday) I tried MDMA for the first time and my friend assured me it was clean, but powerful stuff. I was also a bit drunk, so naturally I said sure. Everything was great and the experience was nice, and the two days after I felt just fine, if not happier than normal (I guess what people refer to as afterglow?) Anyway, Tuesday night the comedown hit me..Had an anxiety attack but it faded, and then the following night I got hit with some depression for a few hours but then it subsided. Last night (yesterday) I felt much better overall but still a bit foggy and out of it, not really feeling myself and just overall not enthusiastic and very lethargic, also poor memory. And today as I am typing this, my head feels clearer and the mood swings are much less powerful but they are still there (mostly in mornings and evenings) but overall im able to "feel" more but still not normally. I have read many forums now and it seems these are all very common symptoms of low serotonin in the brain, how long does the body take to get back to normal levels? I'm still getting some anxiety and/or nausea in the mornings after I wake up for a little bit then it goes away. Oh, my appetite is almost non-existent as well. So I guess what I'm asking is, how much longer will these symptoms last? (I have been feeling them for about 3 days now) And are there any suggestions on expediting this process or lessening these symptoms? And I have been exercising a lot, taking 5htp (200mg a day) and lots of vitamins as well, and melatonin to help sleep. Alcohol helps but I am avoiding it at all costs. Trying to eat what I can force down. Today my mind certainly feels much "clearer" but im still not quite feeling myself, and I might also note I am not drinking caffeine which I usually have a LOT of so I know those withdrawals certainly have their effects as well. Should I have anything to worry about or will it all go away in a day or two more? Needless to say, had a great experience on the drug, but after feeling this comedown I will never be touching another drug in my life again, and if anything its an eye opening experience to feel what its like to truly be depressed and made me realize how happy I am as a person and I am grateful for that! Not that its unbearable or anything, I just don't like feeling this way at all and its quite frustrating and a tad scary. Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated
Also any other suggestions on helping sleep other than melatonin?
One Thousand Words
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If you are improving every day then you'll be fine. I'd have a cup a coffee and continue to exercise and get plenty of sleep. A healthy diet will help but sometimes it is difficult to force feed when you just don't feel like food . Worrying about how quickly you will recover will only make you more anxious.
Depending on how much you had it might take a week or two to fully reset, there is not hard and fast rule. Next time plan your trip a little better and avoid too much alcohol.
Depending on how much you had it might take a week or two to fully reset, there is not hard and fast rule. Next time plan your trip a little better and avoid too much alcohol.
yes you're right. honestly I think I'm thinking about it too much because I wasn't worried until my friends told me they were feeling the same. but yes thanks for the reassurance . if anything I'll take this as an opportunity to shed some of those extra pounds of fat I don't need! as for the amount I think I had a little more than what some consider a "dose". but the stuff was pretty powerful for my first time that's for sure.
. if anything I'll take this as an opportunity to shed some of those extra pounds of fat I don't need! as for the amount I think I had a little more than what some consider a "dose". but the stuff was pretty powerful for my first time that's for sure.
One Thousand Words
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I experienced the same thing my first time. I was with mates in a pub drinking and before I knew it I was on a sweaty dance floor in a club at 3am before ending up in a cuddle puddle with a few cute French girls at someone's house, smoking a spliff and watching the sunrise. 24 hours later I was driving to Stratford upon Avon with the mrs on a Shakespeare adventure, feeling like shit wishing I could curl up and sleep for a week.
20 odd years later I'm doing fine. I probably listen to too much shitty electronic music than I would have otherwise but my brain is fine and my looks intact
20 odd years later I'm doing fine. I probably listen to too much shitty electronic music than I would have otherwise but my brain is fine and my looks intact
Honestly man, it sounds like you're attributing every little thing you feel that's a bit out of place to the mdma.
How much did you take? And how much alcohol? Unless you took like well over half a gram of mdma I honestly think you're just having a lot of anxiety. A lot of people tend to "expect" a bad come down, and then they make it real via self-fulfilling prophecy.
You probably won't get a noticeable comedown your first time, especially if you took a normal sized dose. Comedowns usually happen when you binged and redosed many times or if you've been taking it every week for months etc.
There's no way one dose of mdma is affecting your tonsils, trust me on that one.
How much did you take? And how much alcohol? Unless you took like well over half a gram of mdma I honestly think you're just having a lot of anxiety. A lot of people tend to "expect" a bad come down, and then they make it real via self-fulfilling prophecy.
You probably won't get a noticeable comedown your first time, especially if you took a normal sized dose. Comedowns usually happen when you binged and redosed many times or if you've been taking it every week for months etc.
There's no way one dose of mdma is affecting your tonsils, trust me on that one.
yes i agree with you, I tend to worry about stuff like this so its just on my mind a lot and my friends were feeling the same (all who have rolled many times before) and I cant tell you exactly how much I had but I did re-up with the tiniest tiniest little piece of a pill which probably was completely unnecessary, and the stuff was pretty strong according to my buddies so i think the reaction was just stronger. but I'm feeling about 70% better today (aside from a poor sleep last night) and I can actually bring myself to want to work on things again and get out and do stuff. Im definitely still slightly out of it, but like I said, much better. I think I just took a little more than I should have for my first time and I'm just depleted on my happy chemicals, but its getting better so I'm not worried. Just wanted to see if anyone has had a similar experience and had any tips and what not . I've also put a little caffeine back into my morning too which seemed to have helped so that was definitely attributing to it.
. I've also put a little caffeine back into my morning too which seemed to have helped so that was definitely attributing to it.Hello this is my first time posting on this forum and I have been going through some tough times recently.
On new years eve I took MDMA (after taking a 2 month break from it), then the next night I got a panic attack while trying to fall asleep. Ever since that night I had severe anxiety. I would feel the anxiety throughout the whole day and I would get mild panic attacks at night. I went to the clinic and they gave me a prescription for benzo, and told me to exercise more. I have been getting through the nights without having to take medication, but it didn't seem to go away, so I did a lot of research on MDMA and I figured I am getting the anxiety from low serotonin levels, so without consulting my doctor (which was stupid of me) I took one 100mg pill of 5-HTP and ONLY one, I never took it again. An hour later my heart rate increased to 90bpm (I normally get lower), and its been that way ever since. Its been two days since I took the pill, and nothing is back to normal. Will all of this naturally heal? Should I just let time heal all my problems?
Note: I have been exercising every day, and eating healthy.
On new years eve I took MDMA (after taking a 2 month break from it), then the next night I got a panic attack while trying to fall asleep. Ever since that night I had severe anxiety. I would feel the anxiety throughout the whole day and I would get mild panic attacks at night. I went to the clinic and they gave me a prescription for benzo, and told me to exercise more. I have been getting through the nights without having to take medication, but it didn't seem to go away, so I did a lot of research on MDMA and I figured I am getting the anxiety from low serotonin levels, so without consulting my doctor (which was stupid of me) I took one 100mg pill of 5-HTP and ONLY one, I never took it again. An hour later my heart rate increased to 90bpm (I normally get lower), and its been that way ever since. Its been two days since I took the pill, and nothing is back to normal. Will all of this naturally heal? Should I just let time heal all my problems?
Note: I have been exercising every day, and eating healthy.
infectedmushroom
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If you're still concerned about your BPM, see a doctor ASAP. Otherwise yes, time will heal your wounds. You haven't abused MDMA heavily but definitely stay away from it until you feel better.
MDMA comedown opinions? Need Help
Hi! So I'm new here and just had some questions regarding an MDMA comedown that I am currently experiencing. I took MDMA for the first time exactly 1 week ago (Friday night). About 3 days later on Tuesday I began to feel sort of "out of it" and that night I got hit with a pretty bad anxiety attack and random episodes of depression. Upon realizing that this was the drugs and this dreaded "comedown" some people experience, I sort of freaked out. Its not so bad that I can't handle it, but its just very frustrating and I just want to be able to go back to my normal daily routine without this constant nagging feeling and lack of enthusiasm towards life. its now Saturday night and I'm certainly feeling better than the first two days, (now into my 4th) but i'm still getting mood swings a couple times a day and generally still don't feel quite there. I know that i'm overthinking it, but its also easy to tell when these emotions switch on and off. My friends all felt the same comedown day or two after (a little sooner than I did) but say that they now feel better (after a few days) and they have all rolled many times before so it worries me that I'm still feeling this way? I''ve been doing everything most threads suggest to better your health, and it certainly helps but im worried about how long this could possibly last? Also just to note, I feel off in the mornings and evenings, then at night before bed I tend to feel much better. How long until my serotonin becomes normal again? Also is it normal to feel comedowns longer than the others who did the drug with you? Also to note - I had drank a bit of alcohol that night too, definitely enough to be drunk which I've read can worsen these symptoms. Anyway, any advice or similar experiences?
Hi! So I'm new here and just had some questions regarding an MDMA comedown that I am currently experiencing. I took MDMA for the first time exactly 1 week ago (Friday night). About 3 days later on Tuesday I began to feel sort of "out of it" and that night I got hit with a pretty bad anxiety attack and random episodes of depression. Upon realizing that this was the drugs and this dreaded "comedown" some people experience, I sort of freaked out. Its not so bad that I can't handle it, but its just very frustrating and I just want to be able to go back to my normal daily routine without this constant nagging feeling and lack of enthusiasm towards life. its now Saturday night and I'm certainly feeling better than the first two days, (now into my 4th) but i'm still getting mood swings a couple times a day and generally still don't feel quite there. I know that i'm overthinking it, but its also easy to tell when these emotions switch on and off. My friends all felt the same comedown day or two after (a little sooner than I did) but say that they now feel better (after a few days) and they have all rolled many times before so it worries me that I'm still feeling this way? I''ve been doing everything most threads suggest to better your health, and it certainly helps but im worried about how long this could possibly last? Also just to note, I feel off in the mornings and evenings, then at night before bed I tend to feel much better. How long until my serotonin becomes normal again? Also is it normal to feel comedowns longer than the others who did the drug with you? Also to note - I had drank a bit of alcohol that night too, definitely enough to be drunk which I've read can worsen these symptoms. Anyway, any advice or similar experiences?
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