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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe Thread - 4th Instance

do people prefer this to 25C/25B? i used to love 2C-I , but never tried an nbome in my life (sort of glad its been banned in a way)
 
infantannihilator said:
Only buccal/sublingual seems to be dangerously inconsistent.
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Eh, I've never had any problems with consistency in the ~25 trials I've done. But I've been only making a single dose at a time, I haven't tried to lay an entire sheet all at once.
 
zn13bt said:
Eh, I've never had any problems with consistency in the ~25 trials I've done. But I've been only making a single dose at a time, I haven't tried to lay an entire sheet all at once.
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The inconsistency comes with inexperience in the administration of these, although yes sometimes blotters can be also.
 
bloodshed344 said:
You're pretty much right, however I feel the increased intensity from nasal or say IV usage would make it only safer, as you could easily gauge how intense it is going to be compared to your past experiences with these ROAs. Nasal is closer to IVing in this regard than sub/buc so I definitely see responsible nasal and IV usage as the safest ways to do this compound. Plus with these fast-acting methods it would be easy to redose before your tolerance was too high if the effects are lacking.

Then again, no one should do what I'm saying unless you're a professional. I doubt I'll ever inject 25I-NBOME in my life.
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Well, from what I've heard (at the moment untested) the intensity of the come up is drawn out when you dose sublingually.. for me my 25i come ups have been super intense. Not visually, but just the body load I get. There is a distinct point where for me it feels like I can feel each individual muscle fibre all over my entire body firing, spasming almost. It literally is a rocket ship ride into a trip. I can only imagine this getting stronger were I to move to IVing. Nasal is closer to IV than sub/buc but IM is more of a closer comparison. Every drug I know of that can be taken multiple ways takes on a whole other element once you move to IV. If the user who mentioned it can handle it then more power to them.. I just don't think I'd be able to. I want to push my dose higher, but the body load I speak of doubled in intensity when I upped my dose.

zn13bt said:
Eh, I've never had any problems with consistency in the ~25 trials I've done. But I've been only making a single dose at a time, I haven't tried to lay an entire sheet all at once.
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Well, thats just what I gleaned from all the threads about the nbomes. Certainly its not the only factor, but differing physiology's, poorly laid blotters, and so on and so forth. With how dangerous the compound has apparently been for some I wanted to have total control over my dose, so I went with powder and I went with a nasal ROA.

However, the next time I try it, I am going to just squit it into my mouth or onto a piece of paper towel, as I want to see if sub/buc eases the rocket ship ride for me. In the mean time though, I have other stuff to try :)
 
bloodshed344 said:
Science bro. Just be scientific... a slow absorption is not going to work as well in a CONCISE way with these compounds.
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What you just said makes absolutely no sense to me. To quote my friend Inigo Montoya in reference to the word concise: I do not think it means what you think it means
 
infantannihilator said:
What you just said makes absolutely no sense to me. To quote my friend Inigo Montoya in reference to the word concise: I do not think it means what you think it means
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Oh. I didn't obviously mean precise? Stop being pretentious.

Concise, precise. They are 3 letters different and easy to confuse. What a jerk. Stop trying to sound smart.
 
bloodshed344 said:
Oh. I didn't obviously mean precise? Stop being pretentious.

Concise, precise. They are 3 letters different and easy to confuse. What a jerk. Stop trying to sound smart.
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lol, whatever you say. Even using the word precise what you're saying still does not really make any sense. A slow absorption does not work in a precise way? How can affects be more precise than others?
 
JBrandon said:
Any of you guys ever get a liver profile done after using this?

I don't drink alcohol and I hadn't used any other drugs in a month. I dropped some 25I on a Saturday night in early 2012. Next week I had the liver profile, and my ALT was too high. They asked if I was an alcoholic.

I came home and hopped on BL and sure enough another user reported the same thing in a B&D thread.

Now there are many things can cause liver damage - OTC meds like Tylenol, for example, so by no means am I saying the 25I was responsible. However I haven't touched an NBOME since and my follow up test was perfectly fine.

This is something we should keep an eye on and just be wary if a trend emerges. 2 people is not enough to worry, but 20 might be.
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Will advise on any abnormalities after my checkup after using this
 
infantannihilator said:
lol, whatever you say. Even using the word precise what you're saying still does not really make any sense. A slow absorption does not work in a precise way? How can affects be more precise than others?
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Because I'm not talking about affects or effects, even?

I'm talking about how it gets absorbed.
 
Well with IV it doesn't need to get absorbed, which is why it's the most potent and cleanest way. It goes directly to where it needs to go in your body. Sure you can be against needles and draw the line for your drug usage there, but you can't deny that it has it's positives. Judging people on their use of needles is just as stupid as being against synthetic drugs, stop the b.s
 
TDOOMX said:
Yea IV 25i. Are you fucking serious. .
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I've actually IVd and IMd it. It's by far my favorite ROA for this substance. I'd say 1.3 mg IMd is equal to around 4mgs bucaly or intranasaly. Your catapulted in to +++ experience in like 2 minutes. And the overal duration is shorter. If you have acces to bacterioststic water and a micron filter I would def recommend this ROA.
 
^ Those sound like huge doses...1.3mg is the farthest I've ever wanted to go with buccal dosing, and people have OD'ed on 4mg nasal.
 
^^those are in the high end of the doses I've done. 1.3 is the highest I've gone through IM, and 4.4 is the highest I've gone intranasaly. With those doses I felt I was in the verge of ODing. I was having weird muscle spasms in my thighs and was a lot less clear headed then I normally am on the stuff. I was just comparing effects of the 2 different ROAs. I'm not recommending those doses, just those ROAs. I could see how you read it like I was tho. . 900mcg is what I usually IM or some times 500 IM and 300 IV. I found when IMing alone it can sometimes take 5-10 minutes to get there vs 1 or 2 minutes IVing
 
Also with those doses I had a slightly irregular heartbeat and difficulty breathing for a few minutes during the peak.
 
I see, so you were saying an IM dose is about 3x stronger. So 0.8-0.9mg IM is probably about 2.4-2.7mg nasal/buccal for you? I couldn't imagine taking that much myself, but I know there's been a few other posters who said they were doing it in the 2-3mg range so it's not unreasonable if you're not as sensitive to the stuff as someone like me.
 
zn13bt said:
I see, so you were saying an IM dose is about 3x stronger. So 0.8-0.9mg IM is probably about 2.4-2.7mg nasal/buccal for you? I couldn't imagine taking that much myself, but I know there's been a few other posters who said they were doing it in the 2-3mg range so it's not unreasonable if you're not as sensitive to the stuff as someone like me.
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Even though they're so dangerous, for quite a few people they feel completely side effect free at the desired dose. I'm one of those people. I would consider IMing this stuff but not IVing, although I have vaporized which makes it get to the brain faster than IVing even. Vaporizing this compound is a good way to use it and if spread throughout cannabis it is easy to know how much you're getting.
 
zn13bt said:
I see, so you were saying an IM dose is about 3x stronger. So 0.8-0.9mg IM is probably about 2.4-2.7mg nasal/buccal for you? I couldn't imagine taking that much myself, but I know there's been a few other posters who said they were doing it in the 2-3mg range so it's not unreasonable if you're not as sensitive to the stuff as someone like me.
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Yea I tend to have a fairly high natural tolerance towards a good bit of different psychedelics. Most of my friends I've given it to tend to react fairly strong in the 500 to 800mcg range bucaly sublingually or intranasaly
 
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