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The Big & Dandy N-Ethyl-Norketamine Thread

My girlfriend and I snorted our way through almost all of the half gram that I acquired on Saturday. It really isn't at all bad on the nose if you crush it up really finely and snort some water first. Snorting wasn't entirely pain free and my nose ran a little, but the next day our sinuses where completely fine - no blockage, certainly no blood.

As for effects, it got a resounding meh from both of us. It is an active dissociative drug with effects broadly similar to ketamine, but the amount you have to shove up your nose to get anything approximating a satisfying high is ridiculous. My last dose was 110mg in three fat lines and I really thought something was going to happen for a few minutes there, but an hour later I was pretty much back to baseline. Someone said in this thread that that it might be a perfectly serviceable drug for people looking for a wonk rather than a hole, and I don't disagree with that. But you can get a longer lasting and more satisfying wonk out of any of the other available arylcyclohexylamines out there. If you seriously can't get anything better, then go for it. At least you can be sure that you won't accidentally hole.

At 1 AM after hoovering up over two hundred milligrams of this compound and being sober in every way (apart from a slight beer-buzz) I treated myself to ten milligrams of 3-MeO-PCP and declared N-Ethyl-Norketamine pointless. My girlfriend was asleep and my pronouncement went unheard, so here I am with my unsolicited opinion. When someone comes on here claiming that NENK is their favourite dissociative I'll believe that there are better batches out there than the one I sampled. Until then I'll stick to the opinion that it's just a very mild drug.
 
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wayab said:
maybe in combination with some other dissociative ?
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To what end? If you're comboing with a dissociative capable of producing a hole the NEK would be redundant anyways wouldn't it, particularly at the doses people are having to take of it to get anything much from it at all? Not what I'd call much of a potentiator here by all accounts.
 
^ Agreed. I doubt that if you were under the effects of any stronger dissociative you'd be able to tell what the NENK was adding. It would just get lost in the mix. Why not just take a little more of the stronger stuff? NENK doesn't seem to have any special character of it's own, it's just like ket that's been cut to hell and back.
 
well for example when i combine 3meopcp and mxe i get into a hole like state that i cannot achive with either alone,
also a favorite combo of mine dxm+ketamine produces a dissociation distinctly difrent than either dxm or ket alone
so thats kinda what i had in mind?
 
^ I get what you're saying, but I really don't think it'd work. N-Ethyl-Norketamine is just so much weaker and milder than any of the compounds you've mentioned. Maybe you can't hole on 3-MeO-PCP or MXE alone, but I bet you can get pretty satisfyingly fucked on either, right? NENK barely touches the sides. I guess it might add a little to the dxm experience, as dxm is so different from the arylcyclohexlamines that you might be able to discern the added effect from the NENK. But I doubt it would be any different from dxm+ketamine except that you'd have to snort more powder for the same effect.

If you can get any other ketamine analogue this stuff is pretty pointless. If you can get ketamine itself it is completely pointless. Except of course to add a one substance to the list of shit you've tried.
 
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well i couldn't resist the temptation and am waiting on a 250mg sample, guess i just don't whant to belive the reports hahaha :D
if this realy is the case and this is a extremly weak substance are the vendors going to be able to sell it at this insane price ?
has anyone tested the cheaper source? is it the same batch ?
 
I don't trust myself wth the MeO-PCPs pontifex. I've had greedy runs on MXE dosing way more than was good for me going in and out of the hole. Think that would be most unwise on the PCPs. Was hoping NENK would allow for some revisiting of the MXE headspace but alas seems I'd be wasting my dosh on it, and don't have K available ( and don't generally do illegals beyond a bit of weed these days ) so that's out. Bummer!
 
NEK is pretty worthless. you only feel a nice wonk and the shifting and twitching beyond 150mg ... i needed 250mg for a feeling thats about the same than 40mg MXE or 50mg K would give. and yeah, my nose was bloody and blocked like during a cold the next day, even tho i grounded up properly and used NaCl spray upfront to wetten my nose.

i also tried to combine with MXE and kept the MXE dose very low at 30mg because i knew that MXE will overpronounce NEK. and it certainly did. the only think NEK is good for is, if you wanna feel the body shifts and twists and dont wanna push MXE up too far then 30mg MXE (for a basic nice mellow dissociation) and about 100+mg NEK will do.

i never holed on NEK alone yet hat the feeling to be anywhere near close even at 250mg.

short lived, insanely dose hungry, expensive for the rather small output i'd pretty much put this into the worthless category.
 
wayab said:
well i couldn't resist the temptation and am waiting on a 250mg sample, guess i just don't whant to belive the reports hahaha :D
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I ordered mine on the same basis. If you take it for what it is then there's no reason you shouldn't have some fun with it, for a couple of hours at least.

Funny thing is, when I tipped my 500mg out of the bag to chop it up my girlfriend said "imagine if you snorted that all up in one big line!" As it turns out I could probably have done that and been fine, as long I didn't choke to death.

pontifex01 said:
Yeah the MeOs sound like the deformed, incestuous child of DXM, MXE and PCP rolled into one. Pretty whacky. I've had a hard-on for PCP ever since I read f&b's trip report on 4mg IM. Before then I just associated it with people going insane for 12 hours, but obviously, I was a fool. Not that it makes any difference because I can't get any :/
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In my experience 3-MeO-PCP feels pretty lucid and clean, not wacky at all. But then I'm not at all prone to mania on dissociatives. I'm with you on the PCP thing, I'd go to quite some lengths to get hold of some, but I doubt I'll ever have the opportunity.

Obsidius said:
short lived, insanely dose hungry, expensive for the rather small output i'd pretty much put this into the worthless category.
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"short lived, insanely dose hungry and expensive" should be the subtitle of the second iteration of this thread, if there ever is one.
 
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I must say that even MXE felt kind of lame to me and not like a drug that someone takes for fun.
I ordered the NENK out of curiosity, but it seems its even more lame than MXE.

If it isnt very dissociating what does it do then?
Could you at least take it and go out and appear mostly sober while having an "I dont give a shit" feeling, MXE could accomplish that a little with low doses?
 
^ MXE is pretty much my favourite drug and I have a lot of fun on it, different strokes and all that...

What does NENK do apart from being mildly dissociating? Nothing, it's just a mild dissociative. You could use it for the purpose you describe, but you'd need to have a lot of it and be somewhere where is was convenient to redose every half hour or so.

EDIT: Sorry everyone, you all know my opinion by now, I'm not sure why I keep replying to every post in this thread. Actually I do know, it's because I should be writing my thesis and I'm procrastinating. So I'll shut up and go do that.
 
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Does somebody took this NENK to curbe a MDMA hangover? If the antidepressent effect of ketamine isn't here too, I really don't know why I ordered a sample of this stuff^^ (will try it anyways :) )
 
Still waiting for someone without a dissociative tolerance to post a report.

@thikal, I doubt dissociatives are going to be effective to cure an MDMA hangover. What you need to cure an empathogen hangover is lots of good sleep, lots of fresh water, lots of fresh fruits, and lots of fresh air.
 
3-MEO-PCP and most arylcyclohexylamines may end up being scheduled here in the UK.
I've also heard O-Desmethyltramadol is under the same scrutiny at the moment.

Pretty much the last days of the sundried white powder of the giant aquatic brazilian centipede.. (Naked Lunch reference)
 
The arylcyclohexamines will all become class B drugs. Probably within the next two weeks.

ODT has had no official word released yet.
 
Survived Abortion said:
Still waiting for someone without a dissociative tolerance to post a report.
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... i did a couple of weeks back
in a nut shell i repeated whats already been said [ if K = 10 then NEK = 7 ] less viual, for me it was a lot less comfortable and a lot less euphoric than K
i felt restless and needed to move; more like 45 minutes of MXE than a K alternative....i didnt really enjoy it....but am tempted to get another sample...god knows why

ps - its not that bad on the nose, IMO it didnt burn or bleed, just had an annoying ammount of snot up there the next day or two....which hasn never happened with any other powder
 
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