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The Big & Dandy N-Ethyl-Norketamine Thread

Having followed this thread from early on I'd say that it's not good and it's not worth the price. Either it's a shit drug or it's an appalling batch.
 
Transform said:
Having followed this thread from early on I'd say that it's not good and it's not worth the price. Either it's a shit drug or it's an appalling batch.
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Thanks! After all the hype i read about it being better than MXE & Ket looks like i won't be buying this anymore
 
Anyone tried combining this with anything to make it better?

i rarely do K alone and my favorite part about mxe was to combine with stuff like dmt or lsd to get a dissiotated trip so to speak.

Im thinking this might be bland by itself but might be useful to ramp up trip or something.

Also anyone tried this with 3/4 meo pcp? might be make for a mxe kind of trip by combing these.
 
Spacemonkey5000 said:
Anyone tried combining this with anything to make it better?

i rarely do K alone and my favorite part about mxe was to combine with stuff like dmt or lsd to get a dissiotated trip so to speak.

Im thinking this might be bland by itself but might be useful to ramp up trip or something.

Also anyone tried this with 3/4 meo pcp? might be make for a mxe kind of trip by combing these.
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Yes, I have. I'm more cautious of combinations with 3-MeO-PCP because it has some very powerful interactions, but so far so good.

In fact "so far" I'm reserving judgement on N-EK until I've had the opportunity to test it again in a more useful way. My tolerance is substantial due to previous long-term abuse of K/MXE (that tolerance never seems to go away even after months), and I expect my receptor tolerance is shortening the duration and changing the effect profile. My first testing of N-EK on top of a reasonably mild 3-MeO dose resulted in more intensity of effects than N-EK alone.

Note: Not recommended for reasons of safety - the manic, thrashing 3-MeO-'hole' is dangerous enough on its own and it's very easy to get there with the smallest mistake. But if you use 3-MeO already I'm preaching to the choir!

I think N-EK is irritant much like MXE seemed to be, and it does have some character of what feels like a PH burn, but I'd echo knockando's comments - I think the heavy bleeding is mechanical. After a thorough crushing and making sure there's a bit of water lining the nose, no such problems.
 
NMR data courtesy of another member:

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This is NENK from an invite only EU vendor and can be seen on their safe or scam page. It indicates a very high level of purity. The analyser commented
Just took 50 mg of NEK today a few hours ago. Strong rush and a very nice feeling but surprisingly it lasted only about an hour. Redosed about 30 mg, nice and short again... My nose was running for about an hour after the last hit.
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Transform said:
NMR data courtesy of another member:
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Rather off-topic but I must ask... This researcher has posted here NMR's of other substances but I can't find them. Can you please point me to them by telling me his username on BL? His SOS username (which according to him is the same as the one here) is only a number for me because I don't have an account on that site (SOS)!

Now back to the topic... This EU vendor changed the name of the compound from the incorrect N-Ethyl-Ketamine that many other vendors are using to the correct N-Ethyl-Norketamine after I contacted him regarding the matter; I pointed them to this thread and they subsequently consulted with their chemist, who replied thus:

"You are selling N-Ethyl-Norketamine. The tertiary amine N-Ethyl-Ketamine is probably inactive since basically all the known Arylcyclohexylamines are sec-amines. BTW, 'NOR' is from the German 'N ohne Radikal', which means 'N without radical' and usually refers to a demethylated compound. It can also mean the loss of a different alkyl residue, though. There has been a large discussion on Bluelight where people (rightly) criticized the use of the name N-Ethyl-Ketamine. You should probably change that."
 
Are we talking about the same batch but sold by different vendors, or different batches with potentially different levels of purity?
 
I would be very surprised if the new vendor was not selling the same batch as the vendors already selling this compound.

lamanogaucha said:
Rather off-topic but I must ask... This researcher has posted here NMR's of other substances but I can't find them. Can you please point me to them by telling me his username on BL? His SOS username (which according to him is the same as the one here) is only a number for me because I don't have an account on that site (SOS)!
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NMR-Chemist.
 
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i hope not, atleast from experiance they are waaay more legit than the others offering it
 
I think that there is more than one batch around, but that is mere speculation at this time.

Thanks for the username, Ungelesene_Bettlek!
 
I gave in and purchased half a gram from what I believe to be one of the more reputable vendors, even though it is double the price of ketamine. I haven't been able to source the latter for the last 2 months and have not used mxe much in the meantime so I hope my resistance is down to a level where this will provide me a worthwhile experience at 50mg.

Heh, after reading the above posts I positive it's coming from the same place you guys are familiar with. I have extensive experience with mxe and ketamine and I'll provide my opinion on it if interested.
 
The reliable EU vendor who has it in the inventory now is this the real deal?
And is it worth the money?
What did the NMR say that was allready erased on SOS?
 
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A friend analysed the NMR and although he was a bit rusty he said the proton count was 1 off but he thought this was due to hydrogens on the amine not being counted. If this is correct then this is the real deal. The NMR of 3-FA was also 2 protons off from expected, supporting his interpretation.
 
wayab said:
i hope not, atleast from experiance they are waaay more legit than the others offering it
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the original vendor from the UK offerin ethylketamine is at least as reputable as the vendor that has started offering recently, and that's why I bet you dollars to donuts that both vendors are selling the same compound at the same high purity.
 
The Uk vendor and the other one also miraculously have the same prizes and the exact same amounts in milligram for sale.
 
there is another site seling it though at much lower prices and don't sell it under a gram, so... ?
 
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