The Big & Dandy N-Ethyl-Norketamine Thread

[knock]

I want to buy more just so I can experience a drug-induced nosebleed! I've never had one!

Including from this...

 

[cannibalsnail]

I too have had a lot of nosebleeds after doing 100-150mg the other day.

 

[Blake7]

I think when I get a chance to do this I'm going to bite the bullet and IM this one. I've had K two times in my life overall and only once was I able to hole nasally and that was my first diss. experience besides DXM, for instance. The other time I split two sessions up with around 1.5g's and while totally a blast, was somehow unable to hole even though I blasted a 500mg line up right away/etc and the second time I went right for 500-600 leaving a bit left for later and still no hole. Then, I had saved around 200mgs to IM which I did and obviously was holed out this world. So when I get a chance to get "EK" which is coming from the most "reputable"vendor I could find for something like this I think i'm going to IM it straight away as to not waste it because i'll probably only have maybe a two gram supply at max. Plus ket ruined my nose and I crushed the fuck out of the crystals and do not by any means have a sensitive nose either so...

Anyways with all that out of the way and having read Adder/everyone elses assesments here of supposed "EK", I figure to be safe i'll start with 25-50mgs as well maybe lower for the first test shot, then work up. I may end up trying it nasally as well but I already know I prefer my diss' IM and like stated haven't been able to source a ton of ket, from this supposed's vendors NMR/etc that of course they'll provide its supposed to be 98.5% purity of his batch so heres to hoping that its actually valid EK and is 98% but does everyone find this route advisable? I don't think i've seen anyone yet IM this "EK" yet and everyones complaining already about their noses, lol...... I remember last time from just those two sessions of nasal ket my nose was ravaged and I like saving my nose as best I can.

If yer gonna IM please filter well. I found that after dissolving even with heat there was a fair bit of residue left at the bottom and the surface was left covered in a chalky substance. Also the solution was very cloudy before filtration.

 

[sekio]

If yer gonna IM please filter well. I found that after dissolving even with heat there was a fair bit of residue left at the bottom and the surface was left covered in a chalky substance. Also the solution was very cloudy before filtration.

What concentration were you aiming for? Can you weigh the filter (next time you ever do a shot of it) before and after to see how much shit you trap?

This kind of makes me think that N-ethylnorketamine is actually more potent than K but people have cut it with fucking silica or something. Invisible to GC/HPLC, irritating to nasal mucosa, doesn't dissolve.

 

[ungelesene_bettlek]

What concentration were you aiming for? Can you weigh the filter (next time you ever do a shot of it) before and after to see how much shit you trap?

This kind of makes me think that N-ethylnorketamine is actually more potent than K but people have cut it with fucking silica or something. Invisible to GC/HPLC, irritating to nasal mucosa, doesn't dissolve.

to verify your theory, I just tried to dissolve about one gram ethylketamine in approximately 100 ml tap water. it completely dissolved with a little stirring; the resulting solution had a very slight yellowish coloring.

 

[sekio]

Maybe he's just got it way too concentrated then, and the "powder" is precipitated drug. Seen this happen with K and MXE

 

[Mu-ham-mad]

This kind of makes me think that N-ethylnorketamine is actually more potent than K but people have cut it with fucking silica or something. Invisible to GC/HPLC, irritating to nasal mucosa, doesn't dissolve.

I love how drug myths start!

Did you get the batch cut with silica?
No - just the one cut with strychnine!

(I can see your logic - though it's a bit like reading Philip K. Dick!)

 

[twelvesevndi]

I love how drug myths start!

Did you get the batch cut with silica?
No - just the one cut with strychnine!

(I can see your logic - though it's a bit like reading Philip K. Dick!)

you're right there's no difference between stating a hypothesis and stating a fact.

 

[nanoshot]

One gram in 100ml of water? What the heck is that gonna do besides waste it. DO you mean 1 gram in 10ml, like regular K is made?

 

[DickTate]

One gram in 100ml of water? What the heck is that gonna do besides waste it.

The N-Ethyl-Norketamine will dissolve so you can dose it properly...
Why would this be a waste? The substance is still existent.
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So I gathered that this one is not that nose friendly as the original. Other preferred ROAs without the risk of bleedings and tissue damage?

 

[PhyllipThylamine]

I'll be moving up to, I dunno, maybe 75mg, possibly 100mg next time but it'll be a week or so as I want my screen all cleaned up before I try again. Combining this wth low dose mxe (my favourite dosing for mxe) will also be considered.

Well, after this trial I tried 75mg followed by 25mg within about half any hour. Again I diluted it in a few drops of tap water & snorted it off a mirror. This time I spent longer grinding the powder, & despite the larger dose I suffered less pain & irritation. I did still suffer an unpleasantly blocked nose, throught the night & into the next day.

The high sadly was nothing to get excited about. This is like Ket without any recreational value. There's little if any psychedelia, just a light headspace typical of this class of compounds but exceptionally short-lived & strangely hollow, pointless. My sample has run out & I see no reason to restock.

Shame, but worth a spin, I guess.

 

[Help?!?!]

^Damn Adders post makes it seem so nice. I wonder how 150/100mgs IM'd would feel? I guess I should find out soon enough! If it truly is that bland well goodbye EK then....

 

[knock]

Well, after this trial I tried 75mg followed by 25mg within about half any hour. Again I diluted it in a few drops of tap water & snorted it off a mirror. This time I spent longer grinding the powder, & despite the larger dose I suffered less pain & irritation. I did still suffer an unpleasantly blocked nose, throught the night & into the next day.

The high sadly was nothing to get excited about. This is like Ket without any recreational value. There's little if any psychedelia, just a light headspace typical of this class of compounds but exceptionally short-lived & strangely hollow, pointless. My sample has run out & I see no reason to restock.

Shame, but worth a spin, I guess.

Yep, I got through a fucking gram in a short space last night and had identical results - like a sub-psychedelic dose of ketamine.

 

[ungelesene_bettlek]

One gram in 100ml of water? What the heck is that gonna do besides waste it. DO you mean 1 gram in 10ml, like regular K is made?

I wanted to test sekios hypothesis of ethylketamine being cut with something not solvable in water. I did it in a quick&dirty way without measuring. after I saw that my material was completely water-solvable, I just boiled the water off and had my ethylketamine back.

 

[Blake7]

What concentration were you aiming for?

About 40mg/ml IIRC, certainly no more than 45mg/ml. Ketamine appears to have a solubility around 200mg/ml so if NEK has similar solubility then it appears that I had very impure product. All gone now so can't test and won't be reordering as it's not really my thing.

 

[nanoshot]

I wanted to test sekios hypothesis of ethylketamine being cut with something not solvable in water. I did it in a quick&dirty way without measuring. after I saw that my material was completely water-solvable, I just boiled the water off and had my ethylketamine back.

I was thinking that it was made for IM injection, hence 1 gram per 10ml. I wonder if it would stay in suspension at 1gram per 10ml. MXE and Ket do.

 

[missimoo]

despite the majority of people having bad/non experiences coupled with nose bleeds I'm amazed at everyones persistence to KEEP on trying this despite the mounting evidence that its a BAD DRUG. (I too had the worst nose bleeds and blocked nose for days, maybe best part of a week and no effect on trying this...this is the first dissociative I have ever brought and managed to NOT TAKE IT ALL and leave it).....

Albert Einstein "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

(I'm also amazed that there are drug users that don't know how to chop up lines. As said above, It should be taught in schools and I too will write to my MP)

 

[knock]

despite the majority of people having bad/non experiences coupled with nose bleeds I'm amazed at everyones persistence to KEEP on trying this despite the mounting evidence that its a BAD DRUG. (I too had the worst nose bleeds and blocked nose for days, maybe best part of a week and no effect on trying this...this is the first dissociative I have ever brought and managed to NOT TAKE IT ALL and leave it).....

Albert Einstein "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

How do you know people are doing the same thing over and over again? I wasn't, I took steadily increasing doses, I first used it as a "spray" in solution, I then sniffed it "dry" onto a well moistened nasal cavity. I was doing one different thing after another, and was expecting (and got) pretty much the same result Apparently it's a different story when combined with MXE though...

PS I avoided a nosebleed until my final test, which was about half a gram powder sniffed after lining my nose with water. Felt fine at the time, then the next day my nose was blocked - felt all swollen inside. Then the day after that, the blockage cleared, and I got a very small nosebleed.

I almost never get nosebleeds, but on the other hand I almost never sniff 500mg of drugs.

 

[missimoo]

11 pages of people saying "I took more and more and nothing happened, I got a nose bleed though" compared to, say for example, the MXE mega threads of delusional ranting by people who are trashed off their faces.

re my above post, I continued to try different more extreme and desperate sounding ROA's.

in the end i found that by drilling a hole in the top of my head and pouring in the whole baggy and using a finger (or two, hell next time I will just fist my brain) I experienced a slight lift in mood with some minor visual disturbances.

(Seriously, It occurred to me to add to my post that in the interest of harm reduction, if people are taking a drug that seems to be causing a lot of nose bleeds, DO NOT share straws/snorters... its a slim chance, but much the same as dirty needles, if your sticking a note or a straw up your bloody nose, then passing a to and from a friend during a session, who may have done the same to someone else who has done it with someone else....etc etc that Hep and HIV etc could be spread...just if its causing nose bleeds anything like i experienced I had blood coming out with chunks and snot for days...something I wouldnt really want to pass on to someone else)

 

[justinsayno]

^ the MXE thread was mostly full of people talking shit. People on decent K find better things to do than type..

its worth remembering that not all drug users use bluelight, one of the major vendors has sold out once already, so somebody must like it.
Personally i am reserving judgement for a couple of weeks, apparently this has been made in china, but there is a batch being prepared in the EU....i'll probably wait for that. Nothing against china, just possible the nose bleeds are due to a bad batch.