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The Big & Dandy N-Ethyl-Norketamine Thread

sekio said:
Has there been anyone who has actually got some physical characteristics for this supposed ethyl-norketamine? Shit like m.p. of the salt, top limit of solubility in water etc, perhaps optical activity?

In short: has there been any convincing evidence to suggest this is really ENK? Or has it been the usual bioassays-only?
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I'll happily try and find the solubility limit, but it won't be that accurate as the cops took my lab scales.

EDIT: Do you know what it should be, Sekio?


EDIT 2: Plugged 150mg, for completeness sake, to finish my 500mg. Oops! all gone in 3 hours. I did an allergy dose yesterday so keep your smart-ass comments to yourselves.

So any physical analysis will have to wait I'm afraid!


I did feel that plugged dose but it was just mild, and probably wasteful. Spraying up the nose seems good.

I will need to start off with a solid 200-300mg dose next time. My dissociative tolerance does not help.
 
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Woke up this morning with no pain or injury despite putting ~350mg up my nose.

So those of you experiencing damaged noses, I don't think it's a chemical effect you're experiencing, it would seem to be mechanical damage. Try spraying a solution, or lining your nose with water first.
 
Did 1g in a period of 2 days with the biggest dosage around 200mg orally.
Just got a pleasant buzz with no real dissociation.
I wouldn't call this economically viable.
 
its been 5 days since i snorted this stuff and ive still got blood coming out my nose. definitely try the spray technique if youre gonna take it.
 
yup.my nose has been blowing out chunks of blood and all sorts after this one. its one of the heaviest things ive ever put up my nose. i didnt get much effect from it either. have no plans to repeat the experience (or lack of)
 
Yeah, I am unable to say if it's weak or not due to my tolerance. But I didn't get that much off it. I suspect my tolerance is a big part of it.

People, line your noses with water. Snort some water before snorting the N-E(N)K. As far as I can tell, and I've snorted about 300mg, this drug, or at least the batch I have a sample of, is not chemically corrosive, it's just the crystalline structure that's fucking with your membranes. It would be useful for someone without dissociative tolerance to take this advice and report.

Perhaps some fool might IM it. Maybe that fool will be me when I get some more.
 
N-ethyl-Ketamine - just ordered 500mg + share you experiences with me, is this good?

Some say its bad, some say its better than mxe (which I find impossible to believe because mxe will always be my favorite drug)..

Whats your take on it?, did I just waste my money buying this, whats the dosage to K hole??
 
Don't think it's your tolerance^

I have NO tolerance at all, and a line of 150mg + some lines an hour earlier of about 50mg each, didn't gave me that much.
 
I have NO tolerance at all, and a line of 150mg + some lines an hour earlier of about 50mg each, didn't gave me that much.
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This is very concerning, given that 150mg of methyl-norketamine ("ketamine") will blast most people into space, and ethyl substitution is meant to increase potency.
Someone needs to have this shit analysed pronto, by a 3rd party
 
Can anyone make a guess at the metabolism of n-ethyl-norketamine? CYP2B6 seems to be the main enzyme responsible for demethylation - would it also de-ethylate n-ethyl-norketamine?

I'm just wondering why there are a few reports of oral ROA being successful floating around...
 
Mine is arriving tommorow, I had an mxe tolerance, but i havnt touched it since the ban. Most likely ill be doing around 100mg/120mg
 
foolsgold said:
can i just ask these reports of inactive/high doses need are uk based ? if so i think it easy to guess as to why this is happening with one quick internet search
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uk based... and equally unimpressed with this chemical after my (admittedly) limited experimentation. Can you give a clue as to what search terms are required? sorry to be an idiot :-)

PM me if its not for public distribution, but Im sure other similarly idiotic UK people here would like to know.
 
^ actually foolsgold could perhaps just tell us why, as long as vendors aren't mentioned it should be ok I think? I failed to turn up anything with a google search...
 
knockando said:
As far as I can tell, and I've snorted about 300mg, this drug, or at least the batch I have a sample of, is not chemically corrosive, it's just the crystalline structure that's fucking with your membranes.
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this is also my viewpoint, and that is why I also did not experience pain when snorting ethylketamine after grinding it up into a fine powder. actually, this is what one should do with any powder that one plans to ingest nasally - something that seems so self-evident to me that I cannot understand how one could snort anything without doing so.
 
justinsayno said:
i think fools gold is on about this -http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/643300-What-s-the-deal-with-N-ethyl-Norketamine-%28NEK%29
not sure if that link works...google n-ethyl-norketamine
you're looking for a bluelight thread "whats the deal with N-ethyl-norketamine"
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thanks. certainly very enlightening...

Having just done 150mg oral (gelcap) and finally getting some sort of response (after trying sub lingual and insufflation without much joy... but a lot of pain with the latter!) I can say I finally got some sort of dissociative experience... but it was very short and sharp... 30 mins at most? and far short of what Ive experienced on MXE and Ket.
 
ungelesene_bettlek said:
this is also my viewpoint, and that is why I also did not experience pain when snorting ethylketamine after grinding it up into a fine powder. actually, this is what one should do with any powder that one plans to ingest nasally - something that seems so self-evident to me that I cannot understand how one could snort anything without doing so.
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any pointers towards effective grinding methods? (no rude jokes please). I've chopped up this particular substance as fine as I can with a blade but it still felt like I had a single chunk of kryptonite burning its way through my septum... .so either I did something wrong, or there's something Ive yet to learn? :-)

should I be using a pestle and mortar?
 
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