MDPV Megathread 4 - Egosyntonics R Us

[page04z]

new to the site, found the site looking for more info on mdpv.

my experience with it was a record high for both ends of the buzz/comedown spectrum. i'll keep this post short as i am only here to learn but wanted to post my experience with it.

Cliffnotes
-Half a gram lasted 7 people from midnight to about 10am.
-Roughly same high as cocaine, but we all didn't experience the side effects that come with cocaine. Meaning no stuffed/swollen nose, no burning, no jaw clenching or teeth grinding. We just talked a lot and ended up not even drinking the keg we had
-For me, there was no drive to continuously do more, doses were taken every hour some times more. The effects seemed to last longer than cocaine although I am biased about cocaine due to my past.
-Ultimately, due to 9-10 hours of dosing, the crash was considerably hard. Without a doubt, i had my first "psychosis" crash. Which would have had me freaked out if I was alone, but I had a friend to talk to until I felt normal again. There is a very detailed summary of my crash symptoms and my own analysis of my comedown. It is something I don't want to see anyone else go through, maybe worth reading for new users to MDPV.


Long story short

I'm a (personal opinion) reformed cocaine addict at 22yrs old. I was clean of all drugs save for cannabis about 8 months prior to trying mdpv. Anyway, a friend of mine got mdpv and gave me a gram of it.

He made it absolutely clear that with my history with cocaine, mdpv is nothing like it as far as doses, side effects, and come down. Afraid of accidentally killing me (i think), he spent about 8 hours at my house thursday while we sat around doing small 4-5mg bumps. Surprisingly we only did 3 each. This experience was vital to my survival, as I would have kept bumping the doses up indefinitely like I used to with cocaine if he wasn't there to break out and monitor my doses. Needless to say, thank you friend.

Friday I went to a party, i refrained from using it until right before it, which I got there
around midnight. 6 of my close friends, a few shots, and 2 bumps of mdpv had me right back where I loved to be with cocaine (we will come back to this). In the moment, I was having a blast.

So I tell my friends about mdpv, these are mostly guys who love drinking and downers but I figure since I have more than enough to see if anyone wanted to get up. They all did lol. We eventually found ourselves grilling steak and chicken just to cook it (we all couldn't eat more than a bite), having call of duty MF2 tournaments at 5AM, going offroading, etc.. etc... This may sound a bit exorbitant, but we were all driven to DO SOMETHING, not sit around and drink. This could be a good or bad thing, I'm just glad we all know our alcoholic limits and even then MDPV seemed to push me towards water or soda opposed to something alcoholic.

At about 10am I left with my friend. I went back and weighed what I had left. We had only used about half a gram that night. A bit over, but a lot was still clinging to the bag. I got home feeling great, just a bit retarded. I found my body functions to be moot, i had no coordination. Now the come down.


The come down
Thank God my friend came back to my place with me, he must have known this was going to happen. I'm getting ready for a cocaine crash, but this was something much much more. I am food deprived, sleep deprived, and crashing hard. I can feel my head heating up and my chest pounding. This is nothing like cocaine...

I try to be normal with my friend, it works for about an hour... until my Roommates mother knocks on the front door. This sets in an unbelievable amount of paranoia that sent me into a downward spiral of every imaginable worst cast scenario coming true. I feel like I'm going to have a heart attack or brain aneurysm any minute. My friend tells me I'm not burning up and my heart isn't pounding out of my chest but mentally I'm so unstable I can't tell the difference. Was he lying to calm me down? Probably. It felt so real though.

Without him there telling me he has been through this and that him and I were going to just ride it out I honestly believe that this freak out could have potentially killed me just because of how unbelievably amplified my emotions were during this come down... I was out of control, which was just another thing on my mind causing this emotional rollercoaster.

During the peak of my comedown, I thought of everything in my life, every decision, everything leading me up to this point. Every worst case scenario, every option. I thought about my night with MDPV, the similar effects of cocaine, how disgusted I was with my life the night I cold turkey quit cocaine.

My friend there made talking it out the best thing ever, I feel if he wasn't there I would have turned schizophrenic just for a reason to talk out loud. Last night was a reminder of why I stopped abusing drugs and instead using them in recreation with safety and moderation.

Overall, I really like MDPV's feeling, no burning nose or stuffy nose the next day, no drips of pain or blowing your nose the next day... nothing except a very very severe comedown if abused. If I do it again I will do it with much more responsibility. To anyone out there trying it for the first time, it could have just been MY EXPERIENCE, but refrain from abusing this like me. I have an addictive personality and pride overflowing... last night was a reminder that I am only human, and what I read about on the internet and the stories I hear... those can happen to me. I could have been just another obituary in the newspaper last night if I wasn't with my friend.

 

[malaparte]

I indeed expierenced a drop in quality,especially I miss the northern europe
vendors.There is something coming out of spain,which is still pretty good,greyish- white.
Rearranging my flat,I found a baggie,which has been slipped under the furniture.
It is about 100 mg of the tan stuff,from the unfortunatly deceased vendor.
About 1 and a half year old,kind of air thight packed(double baggies),I found
insufflated no loss in potency.
How I wish this would be available again.

 

[page04z]

With PV I only feel those useful properties on the first day of use, then even if I don't binge but stick to small oral doses and get food and sleep every night on the next day I won't get any help with doing work, but just get stimulated and bored, my procrastination actually gets worse.

I tend to agree with you. When I did it friday i felt compelled to be productive or at least do something, saturday i didnt do any, but today I woke up tired even after a full nights rest and have felt like this all day. I did maybe 5-6 small bumps about the same as I was doing the first night but had no euphoria or motive to move, just an increase in sweating and a bit light headed. I was actually a bit more cumbersome too, just mundane things like walking up and down the steps seemed more like a chore, when the first night i would have skipped 2 steps running up the stairs.

 

[leiphos]

I have back pain from muscle issues, and when I took 10mg MDPV intranasally today, I ended up with much worse pain than usual. it happens from time to time, but I'm wondering if the stimulant effects are causing my muscles to tense or spasm. anyone else experience this?

 

[voxmystic]

^ yep.

my throat doesn't seem to be healing, either. it's been at least a couple of weeks since i vaped the stuff, and my throat is still a train wreck. doesn't hurt, but looks a horror. no visible improvement. i've plugged a bit, but a fraction of what i was smoking, and far less frequently. is the intermittent dehydration keeping my throat from healing? i've also had a hit or two of canna from the vaporizer most days. is that a factor, d'ya think? i REALLY don't want to visit a doctor about this shit. i'd probably lie to him/her, anyway...............

 

[General alcazar]

mdpv is simply put the devil. The addictive drive is en par with crack cocaine with none of the payoff. Thank god I have not suffered the side effects so many here have (even after vaporizing at total of almost 4 grams in a 10 day period). Back pain I did experience one night but it went away quickly - I was worried it was kidney pain.
Anyways, my main problem is that my sleep schedule is completely messed up - at first I could not sleep, and now I sleep 14 hours in a stretch. I have decided that this stuff has no redeeming qualities. For a good utilitarian stimulant, there are many other options - ethylcathinone, buphedrone, even a low dose of a beta ketone are all superior (20-50 mg of bkMBDB comes to mind). This stuff sneaks up on you and once it grabs hold it drags you into the dirt.
Anyways, hope all feel better and learn to not use this stuff any more.

 

[I NUK3D U]

What I do know is that peevee is an incredibly strong stimulant, and yes, any muscle / tension problems are going to be affected adversly.

Throat problems also - I managed to speak about an octave higher for about 3 weeks following a nasal session; unable to swallow food for about the same period. I went cold turkey on everything for a couple of weeks, and gargled some dissolved aspirin twice a day; all fine then. Hot drinks like cofee (decaf) / tea can help also.

 

[General alcazar]

The throat thing is odd to me and makes me wonder if there is some adulterant, impurity or something that causes it. I had a little bit of laryngitis while smoking (also loss of higher octaves) but it was back to normal after I stopped. Eventually it stopped happening at all. No ulcers or sores ever, and very little muscle tension. The thing about it is, it is a strong stimulant, but causes an equally strong tolerance after continued use. If you can weather the initial tachycardia, then you can binge non-stop for days. This is what makes it so insidious. With enough MDPV and time, one could theoretically use forever.

 

[jsspong]

smell, taste, and just general nasty

ok - first of all, I love mdpv - after 2 quite unpleasant (understatement) experiences the first with a mucho big hit off the pipe in combination with M1 (never the 2 again, as it was an andrenergic disasterous couple of hours), and the second with just a bit too much from a hit sans combination, I have become a regular user, with daily sleep, and for the most part, have learned via experience and a milligram scale to titrate my doses for maximum effectiveness - yes, I do 'smoke' it, not vape it. MDPV vapor is probably the grossest thing I've ever tried to inhale, as I have an instant and powerful nauseous revulsion immediately. I smoke it the ghetto way, with a little pile of cig ashes over a fine screen mesh, and a dab ov PV on top. little dab - 10mg usually, and I'm sure some of that is lost to pyrolysis and incomplete bioavailabilty. oh well - it's a waste of product, but I prefer the method.
I recently had 10g delivered. Smelled fine when it arrived - normal spermish PV smell, not overpowering, but definitive. I usually measure out 100mg or so into an empty prescription bottle and use that for my daily dosing. I noticed that within a day or so in the prescription bottle, it starts to smell really bad. Like - stick my snoz over it to get a whif, and it's almost gagging.
So - I thought maybe some impurities/solvents might be reacting to the plastic, as it had begun to stick to said bottle as well, unlike the bag. I gave it a good acetone bath, ran it through a filter, and let the acetone evaporate from it under dry heat (no flames there kiddies). It pilled up a bit - little balls. 5 mg maybe. Most of the smell vanished. Put some of the washed PV into another medicine bottle - same result - gagging stink within a couple of days.
For a month or so I was able to smoke in said way quite pleasantly - no off-tastes, warm pleasant smoke that did not irritate my mouth or lungs in any appreciable way.
Not so any more. I have to carefully plan my tokes (every 2-3 hours during the day) - so that I have some candy both in my mouth - chewed and distributed around, and a couple of pieces close by to pop in my mouth immediately upon exhale. Pez works well.
I've noticed this as well with PV straight from the bag it came in, although it doesn't smell bad ambiently before smoking.
Does this sound like I've developed a psychological aversion to it? Same vendor, same packaging. Is the production turnover of this stuff such that it has a short shelf-life - doesnt appear so from related posts. I can't really describe how absolutely grotesque the taste/smell is now upon smoking. I will never vape it again. Shot it once - felt good, but I'm not much of a needle guy.

 

[GZero]

As some of you know a bag I thought was full of poison (ripped off I thought), was sold to sold to me as Methylone of all things, before the cath ban.

Took a few bumps, which was actually, pretty fucking good (not like I expected, but hey, new substance) and having not sampled the Methylone before I noticed some similarities apart from... what can only be described as at higher doses (and we're talking BIG fucking lines

Never been a fan of such stims, when I was trying to work out what the fuck this was, I must have eaten in the region or 20-60mg thinking it was mephedrone, because when I was sniffing it, it seemed to plausible at least, had only had dodgy batches until then so I didn't know. Anyway I enjoyed it, but realized halfway that people were getting very confused, now I was fine but it made some people quite ill.

Oh it's not like crack, it's much much much worse. But it's just so no not what that commant suggests..


Now now, but this shit is out as far as I'm concerned

 

[General alcazar]

It does have a unique, nasty taste. I found an old pipe that I used for it and the smell in the pipe was that MDPV smell x100, so I think that it gets worse with contact with air Though MDPV has not shown any propensity to spoil, at least the samples i had, some of it may be that it comes into contact with moisture which is known to cause it to degrade. Maybe that smell is a degredation product. Anyways, watch out- that carefully timed smoking schedule can quickly become a continuous pursuit. This stuff sneaks up on you and can become a compulsion rather quickly...

 

[LysergicEpiphany]

Hit the nail on the head.

MDPV is great if you respect it, if you don't it'll bend you over and mistreat you.

I'm on it right now, again, did a bit this morning at around 10 to motivate me to send a few job applications, then made the mistake of putting some porn on, had my last dab at four thirty, managed to have dinner and a few beers, might be able to sleep at some point in the night.

When I stick to a single oral dose I have absolutely no nasty side effects, sleep is easy, I mean a couple of beers and I'm fine, however if you do get compulsive then you'll probably end up missing on sleep and food for a while.

I also always stick to taking it orally, smoking and snorting are just way too compulsive.

Oh and to answer Jesusgreen questions, good coke for me is way more enjoyable than MDPV and so is mephedrone, only thing is that I feel MDPV to be quite a benign stimulant, I mean mephedrone might be euphoric and enjoyable, but I also feel it's toxic and is doing no good to my body, MDPV is very subtle, on low oral doses you don't even feel like you're on something.

MDPV for me is the ultimate ADD self-medication, a little dab, and bang I've got all the motivation and concentration in the world.

Good post, I agree with all of the above stated information Peace.

 

[stimutant]

^thats beofre tolerance comes into the game

 

[Mental Kenny]

^thats beofre tolerance comes into the game

That post of mine that was quoted before usually refers to the first couple of days after I get my parcel through the mail, after that I always get back to smoking silly amounts, that's why I ended up flushing my last bag.

 

[voxmystic]

I always get back to smoking silly amounts

no shit, huh? i've never been so driven to do something that didn't even feel all that great. throat and (hopefully) lungs are FINALLY starting to heal after maybe 3 weeks of not smoking. fuck me, that was scary!

 

[GZero]

right the below is the result of discovering that the fair bit of Methylone I had purchased had turned out to be an extremely potent unknown chemicals.

6 Months later it turns out to be MDPV. I'm sorry, but fuck it the post stays until a mode removes it. Please put it somewhere safe, I will read this one day and realize this is where all the trouble started, it sounds deeply humbling.


THIS STARTED OUT SERIOUS AND ANGRY, BUT I FOUND IT PROGRESSED FANTASTICALLY. PRESENTED IN REVERSE ORDER.

IT DOESN'T BELONG HERE, BUT I THINK IF YOU WERE TO SCRAWL PARTS OF ANY FLAT SURFACE I RECKON YOU'D BE WRAPPED IN BLANKETS AND OFF TO THE FUNNY FARM ONCE AGAIN

It occurs now, I began work on this prose pre 6am this morning, and times move so fast...

Something amazing just happened.

Johovas witnesses came to my door, a perfrectly astute sounding women and her mother. I'm fucked off my nut and I HAVE NEVER HAD THIS HAPPENED BEFORE, These people are legenday, Years ago, I vowed to do the unthinkable and be the person, the first and probably only person to EVER, invite them to discuss it.

Now, I was bored (working) and I have always found people rather fascinating things, the leader was clearly a perfectly bright and reasonably attractive person, and I've always wondered how people who deep down must be able to see that what they purport to believe is quite clearly a farcicle, contradictory, insult to us as a species.

Once upon a time I was very keen on working out just what the fuck all this *points around* was and what it hell it all meant (I settled on Nihilism, wonderfully freeing concept). So I have a pretty good understanding of the bible and several other religious texts, I was a bit of a dreamer and geek as a kid and had fuck all growin up in the stix aprt from hacking, reflection and homemade explosives.

Basically, I mindfucked them, but this wasn't some, pawltry, run of the mill half hearted offhand mindfuck, suddenly the lack of sleep and vapourized research chemicals aligned. It was one of those moments when the drugs took over and I shone.

I had them tied in knots, I also flirted atriously with the her daughter while simultaniously changing her world view forever, at some points they simply fell silent, the old woman looked was beginning to look rather ill, but was still able to remind me that the the daughter, who by was now completely captivated by my deeply incicive and at times personal rhetoric.

The old bag made em leave, and a 45+ woman gave me her telephone number in case I wanted to continue the discussion/triumph

NOW MORE TEXT FROM SOME WHERE

THE ENERGY TO DO EVERYTHING COUPLE THE CONCENTRATION TO ACHIEVE NOTHING

OK, This I think is quite literally me throwing a tantrum, guys MDPV isn't the way forward, I've fallen in and out of love with it extremely quickly.
6 hours sleep since Friday and I feel fine. No even that high, just working away quite happily. This scares me.

I kind of take offence at that as one of the early samplees, it implies that I somehow exaggerated the experiences or made it up.

There are plenty of reports now on the various threads from members old and new, including mods, that confirm the experience I (and gzero) posted about on the 6th May, - ie. lots of intense euphoria, mdma-esq with mildly trippy visuals and very long duration off a single ~100mg dose.

Of course everyone is different, and sometimes you get a lot more out of a drug the 2nd or 3rd time you take it. But to imply that anyone who has posted about a very postive experience with 6-APB is dishonest, is insulting.

This is self-contradictory, as the above report was also from someone who was given a sample.

Mate I must admit there's a certain fringe element on this board who from DAY ONE of this 6-APB thing have been, frankly, insulting. Some of the PMs I recieved in the early days (fewer now) have often boiled down to little more than poorly constructive abuse.

I've really taken to this site and (unless I'm drunk) I don't act a prick to people. When I do, I apologise and thats that, but a some sorts round here are clearly either bored, lonely warped or all three. I just don't understand why, we've got a fucking amazing new substance here and rather than having the patience to wait and see how it turns out, no need for the hate guys.

*snip*

See this is why I like this forum, I've met some genuinely cool people on here, *snip* (Yeah, Skyline!) was one of the first, A another BLer, Kobie (A guy who taught himself, from what I can tell was the equivalent of fucking Degree level Pharmacology, by himself, from scratch, in his spare time, because he was fascinated by it, and I hope he comes back soon) introduced me to Skyline and a few other guys and we really hit it off, so naturally I introduced them to my online mates and Andy was just one of them. Despite circumstances and long distances for some, I'm always pushing to meet up! *snip*

We don't do vendor discussion on here (and a good thing too) but I'll goes as far as to say that unless really you've thought about this market (certain people have realized quite how big a business this is, mephedrone in my opinon was horribley handled but the playfields has shifted, IMO the labs have more "power" than you think.

I'll even come and and say, that while I'd not want it personally, the pills ARE actually a sensible way to go from a purely business perspective. My mans been kind enough to give me a taste of the second and latest batch to arrive in the UK, might whiter, much cleaner, definitly stronger. We have had two TINY samples imported into the UK,

Still, one thing I've realized, it's not worth getting worked up over, take a large enough cross section of any group, you'll get your fair share of dickheads. And bluelight seems to have it's own slightly weird subculture of

Isn't that exactly the irrelevant chit-chat that we are trying to keep out of this thread? ^^^

You're right, mate.

I took some drugs and admittedly was having a quite a nice time, but I you know, I see do your point now, I crossed a line. This is a forum about harm reduction, and there's simplely no excuse for my trying to have a little fun while I, along with the few others who actually cared enough to make the effort, have

what are extremely rare TRs of this stuff.

Me and
have been getting pretty regular insulted by certain PMs I've recieved from people who tbh sounded like they spend most of their time in the "The Dark Side" forums.

Sarcasm really is the lowest form of wit.

I could easy get at you lot for CONSISTANLY calling it benzo fury and waffling on about fake vendors.













SORRY GUYS, Just save this somewhere, It's a measure of how high, is enought.

 

[I NUK3D U]

go to bed ed. We'll speak tomorrow.


___Your drug concellor___

 

[GZero]

I deliberatly broke my pipe and now am thinking that tinfoil somehow appropritate.


Thank fuck I stashed the rest FAAAR away. Never let me be near this shit again.

 

[I NUK3D U]

^ I kid you not, you will be fried for days if you don't stop this second.

Get drop the benzo's mate and don't try and move until tomorrow lol

 

[General alcazar]

At least I'm not the only one here possessed by the MDPV beast !
It does take over, and succinctly put,
'i've never been so driven to do something that didn't even feel all that great. '
That sums up MDPV. All the compulsion of smoked cocaine freebase without the orgasmic high - just the overwhelming compulsion to redose and mega-tolerance acquired in a matter of minutes.
Fascinating until it has your soul in it's grubby, clawed grip...