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Bluelighter
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Nutmeg grinder....seems like it would be cheap and grind the pill up for you...
You guys need to catch on!! The topix forum on OP 80's has already solved our problems.
This just worked 100% last night.
1. I grinded up my OP 80 with a hose clamp (it was very hard and hurt my fingers so try to use something better)
2. Spread it out evenly on a ceramic plate
3. Microwave and watch very carefully until the powder is a yellow or gold (mine was about 2:30 and make sure you dont burn it!!!)
4. Let the plate cool for a sec then put it in the freezer for about 10 minutes
5. Scrape that shit up maybe crush it up a little more and snort the shit out of it!!!!!
It does burn a bit more than the old ones, but it worked perfectly for me no bs.
so what do the old ones go for now? 80? more? or are they just gone entirely?
you mix the epson salt with the water and stir it its like a liquid ketchup consistantcy. 3 mins for the soak time is what we did, id soak for 5 mins or more you can soak for 10-15 mins even the pills dont gell in the mix that fast cause of the epson salt so your fine the most important part is the bake but the epson helps heaps for making the pills not so gummy when snorting or iv preppin....remember250 degrees and for about 15 minutes warm or hot it doesnt matter really, ya you can down scale it and it will work
now that i think about it a longer soak would bring out the polymers more and the epson will dry em out and even more so when you oven em @250 im gonna soak longer but it worked at 3 mins.....i recc. soaking longer though to penetrate the polymers and during the bake the epson salt will attach to the polymers and dry them out of the pills completly....IT WORKS
I just found another interesting link....this time from a very anti-oxycontin website that further suggests heating as an effective way to eliminate the new time-release. Here it is...
http://www.prescriptionaddictionradio.com/blog/post/2010/04/After-the-44-Show---Hell-Awaits-the-FDA-and-Purdues-OxyContin.aspx
I'm curious about the inclusion of an epsom salt soak to aid in the heating process...it seems to be a logical addition to defeating the time release as inorganic salts do dramatically affect the solubility of polyox(in fact Sodium Carbonate is used to clean up polyox spills, causing it to precipitate at room temperature). But is it entirely necessary or is heating alone enough? I'm hoping that dntcheckthtbxdoc can answer this for me. Have you tried it both ways? Also, is it necessary to remove the coating or can that step be bypassed?
Sorry this is so longwinded, but i think very important info for annyone, especially those who suffer terrible pain, my personal experience with chronic pain and permanent injury/recovery/meds/abuse-rec and pain inspired/return to life, and im offereing my experience to help ANYONE who may need assistance. thanks for you time. (also read on, best relief from OP's without dangerous chemicals and chemistry experiments)8)%)
well, being a chronic pain patient, waiting on a new knee, at 30, ive been on meds for years (11 years since bus collision), after fighting forever to get time release (medicaid) ive finally been approved (3 yrs ago). i was on the old 60s for a long time, and lowered my meds (everything i was on- a TON of things..mostly not opiates, i wanted to just clear my head) in prep for my upcoming surgery to avoid extreme post op pain. (last surgery i went into on 6 30mg roxys a day cuz couldnt get approved for ER meds, it took 4 hours to get me stabilized immediately post op, just outside OR, and i have to admit i did enjoy the 27 various syringe shots( i dont shoot up, so that wasnt it)-obviously done by OR staff- of dilaud/morph/fent in said time .maybe more, just had a image in my mind of those beautiful syringes piled up on tray ( i know bad, rem. i dont shoot up, and dont care for needles really, it was the contents, and the state i was in...lol, but ive been in severe pain for 10 years and enjoy opiates cuz they have allowed me to reurn to life..so forgive me for my thoghts..but more importantly, after being stabilized somewhat, and ending on morph pump/ dilaudid shots i felt like i was being hit with a presure wave, like think atomic explosion at which point i was going unconscioius from these waves of pain, happened about a dozen times in the hour or so after being stabilized....so this severe HORRIbLE experience was directly related to being on such high doses of IR meds, having major surgery and trying to be medicated post op successfully/UNSUCCESSFULLY ..it was one of worst experiences of my life.! please take note )well last month i got the op 40s and without trying any crazy extractions cuz i take as regularly as possible, i found they work 60-75% at best compared to OC. i just got uped to the 60s again, and had my fingers crossed id get ocs...but NO deals. After (i do like to abuse from time to time) i found the best method was to split with a pill crusher(3 piece, with slicing blade on top, or some other pill slicer, after that you can split fairly easy into smaller pieces with nails) into 8 slivers...and then pinch between teeth, (i foudn this to work better than going for a million slivers, the larger ones you can pulverize in between teeth, much more surface area)crushes ok...suck on em for a bit, which diminishes the time release a bit (more surface area) and then eat with some fatty foot, fritos, fruit snacks etc (fatty food allows better absorbtion of the oxy) ..just enough food to keep from clumpin up all together again in your stomach and defeating the entire breaking up surface area deal. of couurse some get stuck in your teeth and they seem to disolve very quickly, assumin this is a decent release, and its sublinqual so also good bioavailability. dunno best tampering i can do for sever pain...usually i just split in four and swallow with intermittent food to avoid a mass clump again. they do seem to last much longer than OC, but like i said at reduced strenght, thus the experimentation with surface area. good luck to all, and if your in pain, toy with em, but there is no reason for crazy extractions with toxic chems (ALSO: they whole microwave until brown, and various other methods involving heat, be SO CAREFUL, oxycodon apparentlly is very easy to burn away if heated to much from my understanding, ive also never smoked a pill offa tin foil, gotta be crazy, jus think of all that VALUABLE smoke going up, valuable at 60 (old price) a pill and as needed meds for pain/life and (remember bioavailabilty is for stomach/sublingual good too!) if your want abuse/iv/snort go for roxys. or if on low doses go for oxy IR 5mg capsules. i think all they make (aside from IR roxycodone-they added some strength but then did away with again..should be 5,15,30...maybe some 10/20's left around but i dont think they are still in production, break capsule and our powder in desired orafice. lol! any other questions for pain management, especially alternative therapy please respond. ive been through it head on collison with school bus covered up by district no benefits, then spectacular ariel collision, destroying everything but my head/left leg..lol..ive been through it...way PRO massage therapy/accupunction/phys therapy/CHIROPRACTIC, etc, etc...feel free for insight...good luck to all, sorry for longwinded ness and any powers that be this is my first post.....so dont yell at me for breaking protocol if thats the case...thanks ~Jeru.
PS. apparently perdue will continue to make a very small amount of original OC recipe, not sure validity of this statement, but for people who have problems with new formula, allergies to fillers, etc. not sure what kind of hoops needed to levitate through in order to get/$$ etc...
also: at present, ethex has a contract with perdue to allow them to sell "generic" oxycontin, ALTHOUGH THIS IS APPARENTLY ONLY TEMPORARILY/IVE ALSO HEARD IT IS GONNA CONTINUE/TEMP ASPECT MAY JUST BE TO WORD GETTING OUT AND ALL THE HARDCORE ABUSERS GOING AFTER THEM LIIKE CRAZY/PHARMS NOT TOTALLY DISCLOSING THE TRUTH ABOUT THEM BEING AROUND DUE TO RISK/ROBBERY ETC. BUT THESE ETHEX TABS, ONLY AVAILABLE IN MAIN ORIG STRENGTHS 10?/20/40/80 ARE THE EXACT SAME AS OC '10/20/40/80, EVEN STAMPED WITH THE STENGTH AND "OC" ON OTHER SIDE...(so if searching be very non chalant (sp)..maybe something along the lines of having a patient who is sensitive to nwe formulation and after discussing with perdue they advised you to this info-for sake of getting pharmacy to not see you as threat) ASSUME UNDER THE GENERIC LAWSUIT, THE 15/30/60 OC ARE NOW ONLY OP...ONCE AGAIN SORRY FOR LONGWINDEDNESS, JUST HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING THE NEW MEDS IM ON AND FELT THE NEED TO SHARE, AND HELP AS MANY AS POSSIBLE, I WAS A BARTENDER, NOW I TRY AND USE MY EXPERIENCES TO HELP OTHERS HEAL PHYSICALLY/MENTALLY, SO PLEASE CONTACT ME AS NEEDED ~Jeru.