My brain can't handle psychedelics!

[RobotRipping]

Wow... that's dedication. One (experienced) friend told me he was amazed I was still going after two bad trips. I hope it doesn't take me ten tries.

But if it has to, so be it.

I'm trying to think what I can get and where in the next week. I can get...

MDMA, but it will be laced slightly with speed.
LSD, but that's fairly powerful and long.
San pedro, but that's even longer, and I really don't want to be trapped in a trip like the ones I've been having for an entire day and / or night.
Morning glory seeds, maybe but same problem as above.
Legal high ecstasy substitutes some shops sell around here, though I'm not sure how legit or safe they are.
DXM, of course, though I question how much I stand to gain by going near that stuff again.

well since you really want to use psychedelic... The above choices suck IMO (lsd is great, but sometimes intense, doesn't last THAT long though, like 6-8 hours of solid tripping). MDMA is fine if you have a decent source (or don't mind speed/other possible adulterants). The rest have a huge body load which will likely steer you into more shitty experiences. I really recommend researching 2c-t-2, 4-aco-dmt, 5-meo-mipt; these are some short acting psychedelics that won't scare the shit out of you in low doses. There are plenty of others too. These chems are worth the wait, especially if you want to avoid a bad experience. as well, keep benzos on hand if possible.

 

[TheAppleCore]

You seem hung up on the idea that a neurologist is going to help you.

I don't think a neurologist is going to be of much service unless you have a serious physiological brain abnormality. Not being able to have good trips on psychedelic drugs isn't exactly the first symptom of such a problem.

Your only problem is that you think you have a problem. Really! :D


For the record, I consider myself a fairly resilient psychonaut, but I had a string of bad trips when I started experimenting with psychedelics. I never ended up in a psychosis, though.

 

[Flickering]

well since you really want to use psychedelic... The above choices suck IMO

It's looking more and more like I won't be able to use them anyway.

MDMA is fine if you have a decent source (or don't mind speed/other possible adulterants).

Speed was the first drug I ever took, bright and early at age thirteen. It was highly potent in a couple of cold and flu capsules. I downed them and went to my martial arts academy. Most incredible training session of my life. Found out why when my mum told me the capsules contained pseudoephedrine.

So I don't actually mind that my supplier's pills are a little bit cut. I'll get purer material when I can, but it will do for now, as long as I don't use it too often. I'm consolidating my losses. I may not be able to wrench open my mind with psychedelics, but theraputic MDMA will do for now.

To that end, I have a few more questions for triplies:

What's a very mild candy flip (quarter tab + pill) like? And what's the furthest you've pushed acid without having a psychotic break - half tab or so?

I really recommend researching 2c-t-2, 4-aco-dmt, 5-meo-mipt; these are some short acting psychedelics that won't scare the shit out of you in low doses. There are plenty of others too. These chems are worth the wait, especially if you want to avoid a bad experience. as well, keep benzos on hand if possible.

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll look into Shulgin's products. 5-meo-mipt is a new one to me. If I take it again, it will be at very low doses; I really hope my brain can cope with SOME sort of hallucinogen.

Your only problem is that you think you have a problem. Really!

Yeah dude I keep wanting to believe that, but now someone else has described the same thing. It really looks like we just have hyper-sensitive neurotransmitters and that the more mind-warping material just won't work. And believe me, I really hate to say that.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Or maybe you both share the problem of thinking you have a problem. It's a fairly common thing for people who are having difficulty enjoying psychs. The problem sounds psychological, but no reason not to check with a neurologist so they can allay your fears.

 

[pofacedhoe]

your main problem is your rigid way of thinking. "this must go exactly as i expect otherwise i clearly am not normal and have neurological abnormalities".

what kind of ridiculous attitude is that.

also have you had a trip with someone else while they are with you on the same drug as you (besides cannabis, which i personally find is antisocial unlike 5ht psychedlics)? if not then try not tripping alone as its often harder to control negative headspaces.

i think its your attitude and expectations that are the problem not the drugs themselves specifically

 

[Flickering]

Guys, there's a difference between "this must go exactly as I expect", and getting concerned when almost every psychdelic experience leads to a psychotic episode.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

But what you described doesn't sound like a psychotic episode, it sounds like you're just tripping.

 

[Flickering]

They were psychotic breaks, especially and without question the mushroom trip. On weed, it was borderline, because it was far lower intensity, and I was able to fight it. But it was the same material as the psilocybin trip. The DXM trip is more arguable, and in fact I went out to find some cough syrup today but it wasn't in stock. But the three consecutive terrible experiences, with their common elements, don't seem like they can be mere coincidence to me, especially when triplies reports the exact same thing on similar substances.

 

[Spacemonkey5000]

I am the same in terms of any psychadelic or dissasociative drug now sends me straight into a psychotic episode. I binged quite heavily on MDMA for a year or so before I got my first taste of some LSD. The LSD trip started ok but ended badly in what I can only describe as me babbeling like a lunatic, extreme paranoia, mind loops, and just like you, when these all started, the hallucinations ceased. Obviously these are all the symptoms of a bad trip and I dismissed them as just that and decided to try LSD again to get a better experience. Exact same thing happened to me and whilst all my friends giggled away, and got engaged in their fucked conversations, I paced around absolutely psychotic unsure of whether i'd taken anything or not and mind in a constant loop wanting it to end. I realised that LSD was just not for me and only ever took it a few times after in low doses (quarter of a tab) to compliment some MDMA or such. I then found shrooms and the exact same thing would happen to me every time I would take them. I put it down to extreme anxiety although it didn't quite explain full blown psychosis everytime I had them. Out of no-where the exact same thing started happening everytime I'd smoke bud. Exactly as you describe it in terms of feeling like my tounge was in my nose, my boody feeling extremely heavy vibrating sensations. To this day i've never been able to explain what it was. It's odd, because I take methamphetamine 6 days a week, i'm on SSRI's, i drink heavily, smoke cigarettes, and none of this ever makes me feel like I do the moment I have 1 puff of bud or take even a gram of shrooms.

I even tried DXM with a few friends and consumed 600mg. They all tripped relatively hard but I was psychoticly FUCKED. I lay on the lounge with a jumper over my face pleading it to end. I've given up on trying anymore of these type of drugs and I find it odd that meth sits so well with me, and i've never gone into a meth psychosis and generally handle being up a few days a lot better than everyone else. I am also from Australia if that makes any difference.

Seriously man??? of course you are gonna freak out doing psychs if you do meth 6days a week...


Psychedelics have a way to tell you that something is wrong and doing meth is very very bad for you so of course it´s gonna comeup when tripping..

 

[adder]

Concerning "light" psychedelics, I think 2c-c is the way to go in my opinion. It's quite controllable. It does work and it's the lightest from all psychedelic phenethylamines you would come across, I guess. 2c-t-2 is a bad idea, really. Here's why I think so.

Anything from the 2c-t-x series will have a massive bodyload and you want to bypass it in a wide curve. If you had had such an unpleasant experience with psilocybin mushrooms, then you should know 2c-t-2 is probably the worst when it comes to bodyloading from all 2c-t-x series. 2c-t-7 is equally good in terms of strong visual part but it's like a better version of 2c-t-2 IMHO. But while they both might give you energy they cause both OEVs and CEVs, and you might just get stuck lying on the bed and the experience might be almost as if you took some dissociative. Other similar ones from this group that have alkylthio aren't rather worth mentioning, they're either similar or they're totally uninteresting. On the other hand a compound with something added on the alkyl chain like 2c-t-21 (it has 2-fluoroethylthio on the para position) is different, it made me totally indolent and there was no heaviness I noticed on 2c-t-2 and 2c-t-7. But I'm guessing it's hard to find anything from this sub-family except 2c-t-2, maybe sometimes 2c-t-7 pops up but 2c-t-21 is probably unseen no matter where you live (where I live none of them are affordable via some RC vendor).

Also, you might try some tryptamines. 4-HO-DMT or 4-AcO-DMT would be my picks, they're rather sociable psychedelics and you can control the power of experience by adjusting the dose right for you.

I believe you've chosen the wrong drugs to start your adventure with psychedelics/hallucinogens/dissociatives. If you really have wanted to try some dissociative, then there are many arylcyclohexanamines that don't feel so dirty as DXM. The first choice would be ketamine but you could also try some 4-MeO-PCP or 4-HO-PCP, these are not as strong as 3-methoxy or 3-hydroxy PCP and its derivatives and they have some small opioid component, they aren't so wild as PCP or PCE, sometimes they're even really mellow and sedating, cf. methoxetamine experiences (another one you could try; though it's a 3-methoxy derivative of PCE so one would think it's strong on a weight basis, it also has a cabonyl group on position 2 in the cyclohexane ring and many 2-ones and 4-ones are known as acting on opioid systems which makes them much tranquil, mellow etc.).

Then mushrooms - you never really know how much psilocin and psilocybin you're ingesting when you're eating mushrooms and there's plenty of tryptamines that can be measured roughly and you won't have a bad trip if you're in the right mood for taking a psychedelic and the other things are intact like atmosphere, surrounding etc.

 

[undisclosed]

They were psychotic breaks, especially and without question the mushroom trip. On weed, it was borderline, because it was far lower intensity, and I was able to fight it.

This is your problem. DON'T fight it, even when it gets freaky. Let it wash over you, reeeellllaaaaaaaax..... I know it's hard but practising meditation may help you with this.

The more you post, the more convinced I am you DO NOT have a neurological disorder. Your urge or instinct to repress things when they get weird is perfectly natural, it's a defence mechanism. You've surely heard of "fight or flight"? Your brain will automatically go into this response state when it encounters something which appears to be a threat to your survival. It can't initiate the "flight" response because you know it's in your head and you can't run away from that too easily.

So the "fight" response kicks in and you get a seemingly irresistable urge to cling to reality because you fear that if you don't, you'll never wake up, you'll be locked in this nightmare forever. If not physically dead, at best you'll be insane and holed up in a mental institution for the rest of your days, the shame of your family, ruined your potential and your mind by messing around with drugs. A stark warning to others not to ever take psychedelics, this is how they fuck you up and the reason they're illegal.

So, don't attempt to fly and don't attempt to fight. Even when it gets scary as hell and your convinced you've killed yourself. Don't even attempt to turn the trip round into something "nice" because even that qualifies as fighting it. Let it all just happen, no matter how bad, I'll bet a dollar to a dime you DO wake up and you DO come down. Once you've overcome that hurdle, you'll have very little real fear left in you both in psychedelic exploration and in sober life.

For this reason, go with an experienced sitter for now, if you don't have one, find one. This may take time, building trust with someone requires a lot of faith on both parties. You to trust them to look after you and them to be comfortable with such a big responsibilty.

Another suggestion I would make is Ketamine. Personally I'm bored with it, I feel it has very little left to teach me. However, my first death/rebirth experience was obtained in an (accidental) K-Hole and I learned so much from it. The good thing about a K-Hole is that there is pretty much no chance of you "acting out" your experience and potentially causing harm to yourself or others. You are spark out asleep basically, not like you see on many Salvia trips and the like where people can behave in a quite disturbing way. Definitely don't do this without a sitter tho, they can make an occasional check you're still breathing and important shit like that. The whole thing generally a pretty easy ride for someone sitting for a K-Holer, they wouldn't need to even consider talking you down, you'll be so deep in la la land they can just watch TV or read or whatever while they wait for you to wake up.

 

[FluoTox]

Guys, there's a difference between "this must go exactly as I expect", and getting concerned when almost every psychdelic experience leads to a psychotic episode.

I started with psychedelics 4 years ago. Out of my first 20 trips (mostly LSD) I had maybe 1-2 Trips which you would consider "good". Everytime I had a psychosis after the Trip for a few weeks. I am very sensible to drugs. Even 0,1g of Shrooms and I feel little effects.

It took me a whole lot of hard work, to get through my "psychological" Problems. On time i had an Full-On psychosis triggered through just weed. It took me half a year to recover from that. Then took LSD again and had the first great breakthrough expierence in my live. But even that brought me a "positive" psychosis where it took me almost a year to recover from.
After that Year I tried LSD again at a party. It was the most Brainfuck trip I ever had. But in the end, it was the most helpful out of all. I learnd so much from it. I could work through so much personal problems, I wasn't even "aware" before that (Keep in mind i have tripped dozen of times before)

Since this trip, I have no problems at all with tripping. Sure there are some rough rides. But no psychosis like before.

At first it looked like my Brain couldn't handle it. But it was me (ego) who told myself, that it must be the brain. In fact it was just my ego which couldn't handled the truth.

But If you don't want to get through your "dark side", then you are right... psychedelics are not for you. But it's not the fault of your brain.

 

[skillet]

I think you'd be wasting your time going to a neurologist, the only thing an MRI will show is gross anatomical brain abnormalities, which I'd bet you don't have. The only way to look at neurotransmitter systems is with PET/SPECT, but the nature of this makes it highly specific for a particular receptor - you'd need, like, a hundred PET scans to cover all the receptors of all the neurotransmitter systems, and you'd probably die very soon after of brain cancer from all the radiation and still not really find anything. And there's FDG-PET and fMRI, which can show blood flow, and therefore activation of different brain regions. You might get some interesting results comparing your tripping brain to someone having a 'good' trip, or somebody with psychosis say, but that's never going to happen, and on it's own, again, it's pretty much useless.

MDMA should be a good one to start with, depending on how much speed is in it 8( It's pretty hard to have a bad experience if your set/setting is good, though my first time the intensity caught me a bit off-guard and there was a moment of panic, but it didn't last long. Mescaline would be great to follow on with, IMO, it has some qualities of MDMA but with pretty gentle psychedelic effects at reasonable doses. Mescaline type compounds have a unique feel compared to the 2C's, IME, and they're easier somehow, for me at least, to trip on. But I've never tried 2C-C.

If you're going to try mescaline it might help to extract a fairly large amount, even if it's just to a tar, then you can weigh it out and gradually increase the dose, without having to deal with natural variability of alkaloid concentrations.

I pretty much agree with what everyone else has said, some good posts in here

 

[Flickering]

You've surely heard of "fight or flight"? Your brain will automatically go into this response state when it encounters something which appears to be a threat to your survival. It can't initiate the "flight" response because you know it's in your head and you can't run away from that too easily.

Ah now here's where it gets interesting, and strange.

In all honesty, my reaction when the bad effects started kicking in? Pretty minimal. Intellectual. Detached, as always. I'm dissociated from real life to the point where I've had my life threatened, or learnt that a loved one is in hospital, and I just... haven't reacted. It's been like that my whole life, but it only got really strong a year or two ago. So when those insane thought patterns started accompanying the insane physical / emotional sensations, all I had was the intellectual thought: "I need to hold on to my sense of self, or this is going to get a whole lot worse."

How did I fight it? I simply kept second-guessing myself. Every time I followed a crazy train of thought, I'd give myself a mental slap and say, "You are not 'a dream'. You are not 'the night sky'. You are _____ and you're a human and you took a drug." Then the rest of my addled mind would reply "Are you sure? Because it really seems like I'm blkeijihthkahetc." And it was like falling asleep; every time I thought about my new marijuana reality, I'd slip back into it, and then I'd pull myself back out.

But my point is, there was no urge to fight, there was no panic, there was just me knowing that I hated this and I didn't want it to get any stronger. The way through was to not believe the tricks my mind was playing on me. The weed was weak enough, and I was familiar enough with the psychosis, to not 'fall for it'. But that severe detachment, from myself and others? That's half the reason why I'm so determined to do psychedelics, because I believe there just might be a way to address it and conquer it.

Concerning "light" psychedelics, I think 2c-c is the way to go in my opinion. It's quite controllable. It does work and it's the lightest from all psychedelic phenethylamines you would come across, I guess. 2c-t-2 is a bad idea, really. Here's why I think so.

Okay - how about 2c-b? But I will look for things from the 2c-x series in general.

I'm actually in no hurry to try dissociatives, considering how detached I am already while sober. Also, PCP... yeah... I consider it a seriously dangerous and addictive drug, the furthest I'd take it as far as that goes is ketamine.

Thank you for your recommendations and feedback... and FluTox, I'm going to PM you.

 

[undisclosed]

I think you'd be wasting your time going to a neurologist....

And money.

 

[Flickering]

I think you'd be wasting your time going to a neurologist, the only thing an MRI will show is gross anatomical brain abnormalities, which I'd bet you don't have. The only way to look at neurotransmitter systems is with PET/SPECT, but the nature of this makes it highly specific for a particular receptor - you'd need, like, a hundred PET scans to cover all the receptors of all the neurotransmitter systems, and you'd probably die very soon after of brain cancer from all the radiation and still not really find anything. And there's FDG-PET and fMRI, which can show blood flow, and therefore activation of different brain regions. You might get some interesting results comparing your tripping brain to someone having a 'good' trip, or somebody with psychosis say, but that's never going to happen, and on it's own, again, it's pretty much useless.

I'm gonna just call a neurologist tomorrow and see, but I bet you're right. At least if I can get a 'yes' or 'no' over the phone, it might save me the $160 for the initial consultation.

MDMA should be a good one to start with, depending on how much speed is in it 8( It's pretty hard to have a bad experience if your set/setting is good, though my first time the intensity caught me a bit off-guard and there was a moment of panic, but it didn't last long.

The supplier says he took it and didn't notice the speed at all. I wish people would just leave the product pure, though. I'll take a small theraputic dose to begin with. And maybe follow it with a quarter tab of acid?

Mescaline would be great to follow on with, IMO, it has some qualities of MDMA but with pretty gentle psychedelic effects at reasonable doses. Mescaline type compounds have a unique feel compared to the 2C's, IME, and they're easier somehow, for me at least, to trip on. But I've never tried 2C-C.

I can't get pure mescaline and I don't trust myself to extract it from the cactus, so there's no telling how potent the san pedro I can get is. I could be in for a fifteen-hour full-on psycho episode. But I would love to be able to try mescaline with some assurance that it won't drive me over the edge. In fact, the day before I smoked weed last weekend, I ate a bowl of cut-up cactus, from a 10 by 3 inch branch. It had no effect. Probably a good thing, in retrospect.

 

[RobotRipping]

2c-b may work, just keep the dose low; I can't even get 2c-b as it's illegal here and not circulated on the 'streets'. 2c-c, 2c-d, are suitable as they are not too intense or heavy. I mentioned 2c-t-2 only because it's short acting and on a low dose it won't kick your ass too hard, high doses however are like a massive blast of 2c-e, so you can work your way up. 2c-i is also nice and light and sociable, a bit speedy but not that bad. The 2c-x's are pretty stimulating for me, which may cause anxiety, or may not, depends on the person. It'd probably be fine at a low dose (~10mg), probably the same with 2c-b if you can find it.

Mescaline is nice and smooth as well, but probably a bit long lasting for your tastes and the nausea is kind of terrible if you aren't ready for it. Eating San Pedro cactus is disgusting and would probably ruin the trip for you, unless you enjoy eating/drinking cactus, then there's still the nausea from mescaline as well as having all that cactus in your body.

I don't think you had an actual psychotic break, for example, after extended 2c-x abuse and psychedelic abuse, I started to feel like I had multiple personalities and that my consciousness would change between them. Then it started happening when I wasn't using drugs and I felt like I was tripping hard all the time. This was followed by a few weeks of worsening symptoms that ranged from 'thought broadcasting' to finding hidden messages in my junk mail, through tv and films. I thought everything was connected and that I could reason each connection which allowed me to jump to some very delusional ideas. I thought I was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, also thought the CIA was looking to recruit me for my psychic abilities and that cops were following me, but just barely missing me thanks to my 'psychic powers' which helped me avoid them somehow. I also thought my phone was tapped and that I could hear it being recorded. That sounds fucking crazy now doesn't it? lol I stopped using any drugs for a while, used the power of reason to deny my nonsensical beliefs and it eventually went away.

Despite that crazy episode, I've been using psychedelics for years since without any issues, I highly doubt I have any neurological problems or any damage from the experience. It was a good lesson for me as I now know the warning signs for true psychosis. If you experience something like I did, that persists for a week or more, then you can consider it a psychotic break. There's a big difference between having a bad trip and a psychotic break, one you have some control over the other you don't even realize you are that crazy until afterwards. Not trying to belittle your bad experiences but you're not delusional, at least from what you describe, so don't worry so much and enjoy tripping if that's what you decide to do.

 

[Flickering]

2c-b may work, just keep the dose low; I can't even get 2c-b as it's illegal here and not circulated on the 'streets'. 2c-c, 2c-d, are suitable as they are not too intense or heavy.

I can probably get some 2c-b, though my source is one of the guys who was with me on the unexpected pot trip, so that will be funny. "You're STILL going? How much is it gonna take to make you quit?" As for 2c-c and 2c-d, I suspect they're illegal here in Australia, but they might be available as grey-market research chemicals. I'll look it up... If they are, though, they'll probably get mixed up with bromo dragonfly in the lab, knowing my luck.

Acid is also readily available, quite potent blotters, I may take a quarter or a half.

Short-acting is good for now. I actually prefer the idea of longer trips, overall, but I'd rather wait until they're less volatile (if indeed that ever happens). My psychonautical dream is to one day take a big hit of ibogaine, assuming my irregular heartbeat wouldn't make that a very bad idea. One hit of ibogaine can last 24 hours or more.

Despite that crazy episode, I've been using psychedelics for years since without any issues, I highly doubt I have any neurological problems or any damage from the experience. It was a good lesson for me as I now know the warning signs for true psychosis. If you experience something like I did, that persists for a week or more, then you can consider it a psychotic break. There's a big difference between having a bad trip and a psychotic break, one you have some control over the other you don't even realize you are that crazy until afterwards. Not trying to belittle your bad experiences but you're not delusional, at least from what you describe, so don't worry so much and enjoy tripping if that's what you decide to do.

It's true that I had some control.

On shrooms, when it really peaked, I was looking around the room thinking, "I have no idea what any of this is... I have no idea what I am... no idea." But there was a vague notion that in a little while, I would remember. I then went through a rapidly oscillating whirlwind of thoughts where I kept trying to grasp the most basic things about reality, but I couldn't, and the mental chatter and dysphoria was unbearable. I'd lost all contact with reality - a truly bizarre experience. Then my thoughts devolved into something less coherent, with random images and sounds in my head, mundane things like chalkboards, garbage trucks, barking dogs, but it was all so confusing. Someone mentioned before they pissed themself while in a similar state. So did I. I only realised this the next morning. I recall clutching my soaked trousers murmuring "I'll do it right next time... I'll do it this thing that's again when I try it..." and swaying on the spot.

When I started coming down, my head was still full of delusions. I was in a mental asylum. I was God. Nothing outside this room existed. The room itself was a figment of my imagination. If I left the room, I would be able to transcend whatever was happening to me and move on to a different incarnation, but I wasn't ready to leave. My entire life had been an illusion, made up in my head. I was trapped here forever. I had permanent brain damage and I would never recover. That sort of thing. Fortunately, the experience only lasted as long as it was supposed to, and I was fine, if badly depressed, in the morning. So yes, I'll count my blessings that I was at least partially aware that things weren't as they should be, and that it didn't last for weeks. I want to keep tripping, but I also definitely want to avoid those two things... proceed with caution, I guess...

 

[skillet]

The supplier says he took it and didn't notice the speed at all. I wish people would just leave the product pure, though. I'll take a small theraputic dose to begin with. And maybe follow it with a quarter tab of acid?

I'd leave the acid, the strength is unpredictable and it synergises strongly with MDMA. Why not just take a low dose of MDMA to get a feel for it, wait a couple of weeks and take a higher dose? MDMA does sound useful as a 'launchpad' for proper psychedelics (I'm sure there was something about using it before 2C-B in pihkal, but I can't see it now under either entry) but I think you'd be better off getting used to it on its own first.

I can't get pure mescaline and I don't trust myself to extract it from the cactus, so there's no telling how potent the san pedro I can get is. I could be in for a fifteen-hour full-on psycho episode. But I would love to be able to try mescaline with some assurance that it won't drive me over the edge. In fact, the day before I smoked weed last weekend, I ate a bowl of cut-up cactus, from a 10 by 3 inch branch. It had no effect. Probably a good thing, in retrospect.

The extraction sounds pretty easy, though I understand there could be many reasons for not wanting to do it. Thinking about it though, it's probably not necessary, aside from probably reducing the nausea. You could just take a relatively large amount of cactus and grind it to a powder. The powder should be pretty homogeneous so by weighing it you should be able to adjust the dose pretty accurately.

That's a good point about the duration, but lower doses don't last nearly as long as a full dose. I've taken I think it was about 200mg before and it only lasted 6-7h. A threshold dose lasts maybe 4-5h, though that is with pure mescaline... I still think it's a good choice to start with, but of course build up slowly.

 

[Flickering]

I have some spare cacti cuttings from the cactus in my backyard, which was very low potency. I can try to extract from them. There's about five feet worth of the stuff, so I'm bound to get something out of it. All I need is a day to myself at home. A low dose of about six hours would be a nice way to start, especially since bad trips on mescaline are very infrequent...

I have not been able to find clear information on whether 2c-c is legal in Australia. If it isn't, I probably won't be able to find any. If anyone has any idea, please let me know.