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The Official Tramadol Discussion Thread

OK, not that I'm complaining but why is this drug not scheduled? Doctors seem so easy to give it out, cause it isn't a narcotic. Did the drug companies not test the abuseability enough or it is just because not EVERYONE has the enzymes necessary to get high off of it? Has there been any talk about scheduling it? It just seems so strange to me.
 
PT, when it was first released, the makers claimed it to be nonaddictive and the reps that visited the drs. Sang its praises as a great nonopiod nonaddictive pain med. Now docs are beginning to wise up to the fact that this shit IS addictive. The fact sheet that comes with the med now states tramadol can cause addiction of the morphine type.
 
Also some states have passed laws making tramadol a controlled med for that state. Online pharmacies make this known when selling it. I am sure that at some point it will become a scheluded drug, and then the tram car will come to a dead STOP.
 
I'll chime in again. I'm really starting to like this medication(Tramadol) more and more each day. It is actually losing the unwanted speedy effects which is a blessing for me.
 
Trams much better than codiene, im suprised its unscheduled. Also at my doctors practice they would rather hand you codiene than tramadol.

I still get good effects from tram but NOWAY as good as a few years ago when 3 would have me in bliss, and yes I've tried a variety of opiates:p

Just a bitch that it interacts with every fun drug. Does anybody know if baclofen increases the high of tram? I've heard it before but cant make my mind up.

Also how long would one have to abstain from 400mgs daily to get the full effects from MDMA? I normally take a day or two off but the magics just not totally there.:(
 
I have found that ibuprofen helps with tram. Not sure about benedryl, but I just took 100mg of benedryl with my starting dose of 600mg of tram about 30 minutes ago so we will see.
 
edgewise1 said:
Bnb, the duration for me is probably around 6 hours. When I first started this the duration was twice that. Dreamchaser, I have used kratom before to come off of tramadol and it worked really good. The only problem with kratom is that it is not standardized as far as doses are concerned. Will your doctor not put you on stronger meds and also on extended release meds. If the tram works there are extended versions of it available. Sorry I can't tell you more, but just keep checking both places you posted and I am sure you will get some intelligent answers.
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Also, and not sure if everyone has these effects from kratom or just me , but kratom is slightly psychedelic. Ive had strong hallucinations on kratom when i closed my eyes. I'm not sure it would be safe to mix with tramadol. I am not sure if kratom has snri or ssri properties but i do not think it is safe to take tramadol with psychedelics.

pillthrill said:
OK, not that I'm complaining but why is this drug not scheduled? Doctors seem so easy to give it out, cause it isn't a narcotic. Did the drug companies not test the abuseability enough or it is just because not EVERYONE has the enzymes necessary to get high off of it? Has there been any talk about scheduling it? It just seems so strange to me.
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it is because when it first came out it was labeled as a low abuse potential because it is only a partial mu antagonist. I think they underestimated its affinity for action on the opioid receptors. t was also believed to be non-addictive, in fact many health care "professionals" still refer to it as nonaddictive. Also there is a good chance that as you stated the test subjects did not have the enzymes needed to get high on it, or they did not test it long enough for the stimulant effects to lessen and the opioid effects to increase. I believe that the DEA is moving towards scheduling. It is now on a drug of concern list and will likely be scheduled soon. If i were you guys i would stock up on it now.

poppyplanet said:
I'll chime in again. I'm really starting to like this medication(Tramadol) more and more each day. It is actually losing the unwanted speedy effects which is a blessing for me.
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yes as i stated above the more you use it the more you become adjusted to the snri effects and it ceases to be as speedy and becomes more relaxing with strong opiate qualities. I suspect this is what aided tot eh "low potential for abuse" in that when used briefly it has a lot of side effects with out achieving strong opiate qualities for most users. Its only after the beginning stages of use that it takes on a strong opiate quality. I thin if more users of tramadol rode it out for longer in the beginning they would find it a pleasurable drug and not label it as "useless".
 
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Benadryl works if it has a habit of making you sleepy. I had to take high doses of it for YEARS when I was a kid due to severe allergies so it doesn't have much of an effect on me.
 
Pillthrill said:
Benadryl works if it has a habit of making you sleepy. I had to take high doses of it for YEARS when I was a kid due to severe allergies so it doesn't have much of an effect on me.
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benedryl makes me hallucinate. Like intense closed eye visuals. I will be half asleep sorta in a nod and seeing crazy shit. If i happen to fall asleep in it i have very vivid very intensely real psychedelic dreams. I cant take benedryl, i much prefer promethazine over benedryl.
 
its been 10-11 hours since i took tramadol, ive been on bupe ever since it wore off, just wondering is it safe to pop some nytol/benadry (DPH) to potentiate this opiate now, just i read on wikipedia that nytol has something to do with serontonin?

cheers.
 
I just had the most amazing experience on tramadol. I had been drinking beer last night, and was feeling a little depressed and shaky. So I took 200 mg of ER tramadol, and a shitload of benzos: 20 mg diazepam, 4-5 mg of xanax, 7.5 mg dormicum. I also took 700 mg of Soma. This was spread throughout the day - I did not take it all at once, I took it gradually to stop the hangover. All of a sudden I was laying on my couch and just nodding like crazy!

I know this is a harm reduction site, but this experience has taught me a couple of things: Extended release tramadol rocks, and benzos and Soma are a must to fully experience the tramadol experience. Plus some sedating antihistamine, btw. I was laying on my couch, after feeling hungover most of the day, and all of a sudden I was in heaven.

This experience was one of the best drug experiences I have ever had. And it was on only 200 mg of extended releases tramadol!

PS) Keep in mind that I am a somewhat big guy (1.90 cm, 90k kgs), so keep it safe, and know your limits with the downers.
 
Wings of wax said:
I just had the most amazing experience on tramadol. I had been drinking beer last night, and was feeling a little depressed and shaky. So I took 200 mg of ER tramadol, and a shitload of benzos: 20 mg diazepam, 4-5 mg of xanax, 7.5 mg dormicum. I also took 700 mg of Soma. This was spread throughout the day - I did not take it all at once, I took it gradually to stop the hangover. All of a sudden I was laying on my couch and just nodding like crazy!

I know this is a harm reduction site, but this experience has taught me a couple of things: Extended release tramadol rocks, and benzos and Soma are a must to fully experience the tramadol experience. Plus some sedating antihistamine, btw. I was laying on my couch, after feeling hungover most of the day, and all of a sudden I was in heaven.

This experience was one of the best drug experiences I have ever had. And it was on only 200 mg of extended releases tramadol!

PS) Keep in mind that I am a somewhat big guy (1.90 cm, 90k kgs), so keep it safe, and know your limits with the downers.
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Was it opiate nodding though, or were you passing out from the antihistamine and all those benzos? I always see people posting about catching a nod after a ton of downers and always wonder if it was just that they are passing out from the sedation.
 
I don't really get any euphoria from benzos. The euphoria definitely was synergistic, and yes, the nodding was not just passing out, it was very, very enjoyable.

ps) the high left me a little shaky again, kinda like how I felt the hangover.
 
I would often have mdma-like peaks on two 50mg tramadols if i took caffeine with them. I was able to get those effects for about 3 months before it passed. In a way it was better than MDMA. I have never been able to take MDMA more then 2 days in a row and get pleasurable effects let alone 3 months in a row
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Wow. You must get some weird rolls, lol. If the way I feel on tramadol was even close to the way I feel rolling in terms of euphoria and empathy, I'd be very happy with a bottle of tramadol, what it does is give me a "serotonin nod", then again anytime I take it, its on top of buprenorphine... still I remember how it felt otherwise and it wasnt too different. Tramadol is a strange substance... not actually even an opiate in itself if im not mistaken? (I remember reading that it converts to an opiate about the potency of morphine called M1)

Anyway, it seems to have extremely variable effects from person to person. Sometimes, I don't even find it pleasant. Sometimes, it can be very nice
 
Ok guys, what are some signs that I might need to cut back on my Tramadol use?
The 2 of us go through 30 pills in less than a month. I just got bumped up to 90. My tolerance is 300mg and his 200mg. I have spent the last 2 nights on Tramadol and marijuana, high out of my head, having sex and getting nothing done. At what point do I become concerned with my use?
I just know right now I am getting ROYALLY fucked and kinda wonder if this could turn out to be bad for me?
 
Pillthrill said:
Ok guys, what are some signs that I might need to cut back on my Tramadol use?
The 2 of us go through 30 pills in less than a month. I just got bumped up to 90. My tolerance is 300mg and his 200mg. I have spent the last 2 nights on Tramadol and marijuana, high out of my head, having sex and getting nothing done. At what point do I become concerned with my use?
I just know right now I am getting ROYALLY fucked and kinda wonder if this could turn out to be bad for me?
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To me the tone of your post indicates your already concerned. Do you use this substance for a medical reason or is it to get high? Also 30 pills a month is not bad. When My addition was at its worse i used 8-12 pills a day everyday. I dunno it sounds like yours is still under control. That being said I think if you are resorting to asking BL if you should be concerned it is a sign that you already are. You can quit tramadol, or at least reduce your dose. Even if it is not permanent it will give you a break and that is good because it will lower your tolerance.
 
You'll probably get a lot of different answers, but personally I limit getting high to once a week. Keeps my tolerance in check and gives me something to look forward to throughout the week and it's always a good time. Best of luck.
 
Yeah 30 a month is not bad at all, even 90 a month would not be bad. I use over 800 a month, but am actually cutting back so that number will drop, but it will be slow drop. Didn't you say before that when you run out you do not experience any wd's? I would think that you need to worry when the tramadol begins to keep you from being able to perform daily tasks, or when you begin to get wd's upon stopping it's use. As far as two days of tram, smoke, and sex goes.....just enjoy it!
 
lazygit said:
Trams much better than codiene, im suprised its unscheduled. Also at my doctors practice they would rather hand you codiene than tramadol.

I still get good effects from tram but NOWAY as good as a few years ago when 3 would have me in bliss, and yes I've tried a variety of opiates:p

Just a bitch that it interacts with every fun drug. Does anybody know if baclofen increases the high of tram? I've heard it before but cant make my mind up.

Also how long would one have to abstain from 400mgs daily to get the full effects from MDMA? I normally take a day or two off but the magics just not totally there.:(
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I would imagine that as it is a seratonin releasing agent, not just an 5HT receptor agonist that you might have to wait some time. I don't get the feeling that it depletes my seratonin as much as MDMA (less comedown), but probably give it 5 days at least.

When you say it's a bitch that it interacts with every other fun drug, what do you mean - cross tollerance? For everything bar MDMA and perhaps ephedrine, you should be fine after a day or two.

In therms of interactions, I have been interested in trying some combos - I was thinking mushrooms and tramadol (increased seratononin might be nice), or perhaps MDMA and a dose of tramadol as the MDMA is wearing off (might bring back the high a bit - don't know about droping at the same time, not to fond of seratonin syndrome). I've tried tramadol on the tail end of some mushrooms but didn't really do much - all those receptors must have been cowering from the pscylocibin.

Has anyone else had any experiences of combos with this drug.
 
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