What's your pre-work out look like?

^i haven't tried it but see a bunch of bogus ingredients listed. so unless it's spiked (which this company is known for) it's probably not that great.

You think it's spiked with speed!? If so I'm all over that ish lmaooo as long as it gets me wired I'm all for it hahaha
 
i used to use pre-workouts like DMAA stuff and DS Craze before the gym, but really was doing it for the buzz. pre-workouts are not necessary IMO. i mean shit putting a weight up doesn't take that much motivation for me, i'll do my reps regardless of how i feel. (i've known people who go to the gym and don't want to do shit so YMMV.)

Yeah I've taken DMAA.. I actually have some sitting in the cabinet. Just taking a break from that since I grew tolerance to it quick.. and it never really did much for me anyways. I've just always had a tolerance to stimulants. I mean I can have a killer workout without taking anything.. I just thought it would be nice to buy something online that's a little strong stimulant wise but I can't really find much that's legal anyways.
 
TNE and Superdrol...pwo of champions...

Taken Superdrol pwo for a few sessions now, I feel pretty good on it, although I can only take 10mg in one dose or my joints feel like an 80 year old man's... Going to try splitting 2 per day when I start my mid cycle cycle of it and see how that goes though 2 ar once is a no go

Pwo supps are absolute bullshit and tend to be catabolic and appetite suppressive due to their amphetamine like effects.
That dmaa stuff is bullshit, I tried the Jack 3d just Cus and I felt like shit
 
they already got caught spiking shit with speed so i doubt it. it was a meth like research chem, forget the name. product was called slim xtreme.

I know I always miss out on the stuff that's spiked with speed lol not that I care but it would be nice to buy something for fairly cheap when it first comes out that gives your body a kick in the ass. I have a high tolerance to any kind of stimulant and I think it's because of my past with Meth. Been 2 years clean.. I don't intend on ever going back and you obviously can't compare anything to Meth I don't think but I would like to buy legal stimulants online that are legit and I have been having trouble finding any same with pre workouts. I just want something that's a little strong for my wife and I. Nothing with too much caffeine though cuz that hyde preworkout shit is retarded. 400 mgs of caffeine is just going to fuck up my heart but it won't give me any energy. Caffeine has no effect on me.. damn shame! I wish I was like everybody else in this world who drink their morning coffee every day and do their daily tasks and brag about how wired they are lol if only I was stim sensitive!
 
Coffee just gives me the shits. I can drink a single monster and be good for a couple hours though.
 
While my tolerance to caffeine has gone through the roof, even small amounts will irritate the hell out of my guts :( like almost immediate churning. Actually sends my workout intensity backwards sometimes :(
 
Coffee just gives me the shits. I can drink a single monster and be good for a couple hours though.

Hahaha exactly it just gives me the shits that's about it! I even tried that Dexaprine shit.. got me sweating and was shaky but crashed after a half an hour lol not a real come up either.. just felt ancy and irritable. That's the fucked up part.. as much as I love being clean and sober.. it sucks Meth is toxic because the shit is the only thing that gets me feeling calm and confident and ready to bang out whatever tasks I gotta do on a daily basis. Sucks it toxic man because it's got a lot of potential!
 
With high-normal testosterone levels you won't need a pre-workout.....
Before I got on Test I was using a pre-workout drink and it seemed to make a big difference just in my energy level to get through the workout. I still use it maybe more out of habit? Your feedback on why no needed with higher test levels? Do you think that is irrespective of your daily work/stress loads?
 
Good thing I stocked up on DMAA before it was banned.
But I usually just use the basics, creatine, protein, beta-alanine, dextrose.
 
Why do people rely on stims for drive?

They impede your pump.
I take no before I workout. And simple carbs. And lots of water.
 
Why do people desire pump?

Semi-rhetorical question.

When I 1st started fucking with D-Bol I would take 50mg then train, the pump was insane and of course it felt good, but it halves the amount of time you can lift before you're so pumped that you can't go on,

moral of the story: too much pump is bad.
 
Why do people rely on stims for drive?

They impede your pump.
I take no before I workout. And simple carbs. And lots of water.

I don't believe in stimulants, it worries me for heart health reasons, taking a shitload of caffeine or ephedrine may increase your performance but when you're also on gear how much does your heart like it I wonder? ,

after all, I know quite a few big guys around here who take gear and cocaine and they have all took several heart attacks, that alone is enough to make me stay away from any stimulant, within reason.
 
I don't believe in stimulants, it worries me for heart health reasons, taking a shitload of caffeine or ephedrine may increase your performance but when you're also on gear how much does your heart like it I wonder? ,

after all, I know quite a few big guys around here who take gear and cocaine and they have all took several heart attacks, that alone is enough to make me stay away from any stimulant, within reason.

I'm not taking gear though.. I wish I was but my wife doesn't like the thought of me using gear.. so I have to compromise. We've discussed it for a long time and the answer is still no.. and it's not like I could divorce her for that shit.. I mean I could.. and I could have my own life but that's retarded! I just have to compromise. I don't feel stimulants are a need but they sure as hell do help. I was using Crystal Meth mixed with prohormones 3-4 years ago and I gotta tell you both those things combined got me jacked as fuck! But I was also busting my ass in the gym 5-6 days a week for 3 hours sometimes more because I had the energy that Meth gave me. Is that healthy for you? Fuck no! I'm sure it fucked up my heart but I could tell you while I was using Meth I didn't feel my heart hurting or anything.. it was a mood stabilizer for me. I never got anxiety from using Meth and the only thing I hated was that I would break out once in a while and I don't usually get acne. And sometimes my teeth would feel sensitive but I have pearly whites. I took care of myself while I was using.. but yes I know certain stimulants have negative impacts on your health but so does everything else! Stimulants do help though! Some of us hate being tired.. I personally fucking hate it! It's like a cancer to me! I love having energy all the time you know what I mean? I've been clean off Meth for 2 fucking years but I still think about it every now and then because I loved getting shit done and having tremendous amounts of energy. If I could feel that way naturally I'd be the happiest son of a bitch to walk God's green earth! If only man if only!
 
I'm not taking gear though.. I wish I was but my wife doesn't like the thought of me using gear.. so I have to compromise. We've discussed it for a long time and the answer is still no.. and it's not like I could divorce her for that shit.. I mean I could.. and I could have my own life but that's retarded! I just have to compromise. I don't feel stimulants are a need but they sure as hell do help. I was using Crystal Meth mixed with prohormones 3-4 years ago and I gotta tell you both those things combined got me jacked as fuck! But I was also busting my ass in the gym 5-6 days a week for 3 hours sometimes more because I had the energy that Meth gave me. Is that healthy for you? Fuck no! I'm sure it fucked up my heart but I could tell you while I was using Meth I didn't feel my heart hurting or anything.. it was a mood stabilizer for me. I never got anxiety from using Meth and the only thing I hated was that I would break out once in a while and I don't usually get acne. And sometimes my teeth would feel sensitive but I have pearly whites. I took care of myself while I was using.. but yes I know certain stimulants have negative impacts on your health but so does everything else! Stimulants do help though! Some of us hate being tired.. I personally fucking hate it! It's like a cancer to me! I love having energy all the time you know what I mean? I've been clean off Meth for 2 fucking years but I still think about it every now and then because I loved getting shit done and having tremendous amounts of energy. If I could feel that way naturally I'd be the happiest son of a bitch to walk God's green earth! If only man if only!

I believe we've discussed this before... In your case you are technically not considering taking gear in the sense that most people on here do for maximal strength and growth..
You need low dose TRT for normal healthy living as you don't produce enough naturally.... It shouldn't be your wife's decision on whether you have the right to live like every other healthy male on this planet.... I wish she would see this...
 
There was no question about me taking roids with my Mrs, she doesn't like some (most lol) of the things I do,

but I do what I want, I am a man, and consider myself intelligent enough to take these things responsibly especially with the help of people on here and other boards who are more knowledgeable and experienced

I can understand your wife maybe being concerned for your health if that's the case, because I get concerned for my girls health, it's natural if you love someone depending on what type of person you are I suppose

But a decent amount of Testosterone is needed in a male for a million reasons regardless of who you are.

Also: DRAVEN26, I do understand what you mean about feeling that way naturally, because with me it's benzos, people I talk to on here know that is part of me despite being a bodybuilder / weight-lifter, like GF said, TRT would probably give you that boost you're looking for.
 
Why do people rely on stims for drive?

They impede your pump.
I take no before I workout. And simple carbs. And lots of water.

In the case of some stims that work via epinephrine or norepinephrine, they can cause vasoconstriction, when combined with a high red blood cell count due to AAS use: inducing thickening blood this can lead to excessively high blood pressure... Not good overall for your long term heart health...
 
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