What's your favorite 2C-X?

[egor]

Mgs, the 2c-t-4 experience was never very pleasant. We came to think of it as 2c-e's retarded half brother (title of my soon to be submitted to erowid report with alot of info, especially on combinations),lol. I did have a good time on it with 4-ho-dipt at a Flogging Molly concert, but I think that was more a product of the environment than the drug itsself. I agree that it was far more similar in nature to disassociatives than phens. The biggest problem with it was the MASSIVE time dilation, It was impossible to stay entertained or comfortable while on it. The visual aspect was very mild on its own, but really comes out when combined with iprocin. The other major issue was that it kept me awake for a very long time, even after returning to baseline, and any sedative use just resulted in delerium. The insomnia was so severe, I gave away my remaining supply and gave up on it entirely.

As far as the 2c-tfm goes, it was obtained comercially from Japan, so I can not vouch for its purity. I am very familiar with 2c-i, and foung the 2c-tfm to have a very different character. The doses we sampled were low (mainly 6-12mg) due to the fact we only procured 100mgs of it. It was far more similar to 2c-t-21 than any other phen I have sampled, but that is not very surprising given the similar structure. 2c-tfm seemed to be more of a recreational, fun type of substance than a true psychedelic like 2c-c and 2c-e. The body buzz was very light and pleasant. It was well suited to social gatherings (I dont find 2c-i to be good for this aplictaion at all). It is honestly more of a stoning drug than a trip.
If you have any other questions about it, feel free to post them or pm me

 

[ambush]

I've only done 2C-E, looking to do some 2C-B.

2C-E for me was a visual/musical/physical bliss.
But for my friends, it really wasn't.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

2c-t-4 experience was never very pleasant...I agree that it was far more similar in nature to disassociatives than phens. The biggest problem with it was the MASSIVE time dilation...The visual aspect was very mild on its own...The other major issue was that it kept me awake for a very long time, even after returning to baseline, and any sedative use just resulted in delerium. The insomnia was so severe, I gave away my remaining supply and gave up on it entirely.

I too noted the extreme time dialation, specifically mentioned it in my report. At 18mg the visual effect was minimum, but I was defintetly at a full +3 and very gone. Something about it is interesting though, and I do want to try it at 10mg-12mg.

Thankfully I was spared the long-action. I was mostly down by the 8th hour and had no problem sleeping. I was pretty taken by that, having read it was a long trip.

2c-tfm seemed to be more of a recreational, fun type of substance than a true psychedelic like 2c-c and 2c-e.

It is hard to imagine lighter than 2C-C. 30mg would give me a +3 at the peak (with pot) but it was a light, gentle psychedelic. Can't imagine lighter than that! I wouldn't call quite call 2C-C recreational, but if I were to use a psychedelic for shits and giggles, 2C-C would probably be one of the first to come to mind. I've still not tried the 2C-T-21 yet.

What year (and time of year) was this? It really is too bad that bad batch made it to market. Lost oppertunity for reliable data. Curse those who put profit before quality and don't bother to actually verify the synth.

 

[egor]

MGS, the 2c-tfm was in december of 2005.

I did not find anything really good about the 2c-t-4 on its own in doses from 6 to about 18mg, and the character of the trip is esentially the same, the only real difference is the intensity of said space, if that makes sense. The time dilation is uneffected at anywhere between about 10 and 18mg, and is still noted, though not quite as extreme with from 6- 9 mg.
At 20mg+, the visual apsect never really mainfested. The trails were pronounced, but there was nothing really more than that. Patterning, but no more intense than would come from the cannabis we smoked with it.

I do really class 2c-c as a much more gentle phen, but it still has some of the introspective quality I love in 2c-e. Same lessons, friendly (though less effective in them remaining learned for as long after learning) teacher.

 

[bloodliketheatlantic]

I voted for 2ct7.

I've tried all those listed except 2c-d,n,p and whatever that 2c-tfm listed is. (It's been awhile since I've kept up with the whole psychedelic thing.) I can say that I'm not a big fan of 2c's in general. And although I've tried very few phens outside of the 2c's, I'm pretty confident I am not much of a fan of phens in general and greatly prefer trypts.

All of the 2c's IMO feel very similar to each other. (Psychedlics all create a pretty similar experience anyway.) It's been a LONG time but I remember 2ct7 created the most powerful and fun experience. I only tried it once outside of this 2ct2/2ct7 mixture that was "created" accidently. I took a half/half combo of those 2 drugs about 5 times and considered it decent enough to take. I used 2c-e more than any of them and can say that I always did enjoy that. I tried 2c-b about 5 times and it also was always a pretty good one. I have taken 2c-c (I believe) twice and enjoyed both of those trips, although they were pretty mild.

Some of the 2c's I took years after I had already grown tired of tripping and simply didn't have a very good time on any of them so I may not be *that* qualified to answer. Those include 2c-i, 2ct4, and 2ct21 and found all of them to be pretty dull.

So I'd rate them in this order:
2ct7
2ce
2cb
2cc
the rest

Even after saying all that about not really liking phens or even tripping, really, I would still take 2c-d,n,p if given the chance.

I also noticed 2c-g wasn't up there. I got ahold of that one a long time ago and never did take it. While there was a time when I would have taken it without looking back, the thought of tripping 30 hours actually scares the hell out of me at this point in my life.

Anyway, give me LSD, 4-ace-dipt, or DiPT anyday. Or the really ridiculous ones like DMT or DPT. There is something about the fast onset that only tryptamines give. Those are the only 5 I think I would actively try to find anymore, exluding any psychedelic I haven't done. I should also note that I prefer (and always have) dissociatives over psychedelics.

 

[egor]

I voted for 2ct7.

I've tried all those listed except 2c-d,n,p and whatever that 2c-tfm listed is. (It's been awhile since I've kept up with the whole psychedelic thing.) I can say that I'm not a big fan of 2c's in general. And although I've tried very few phens outside of the 2c's, I'm pretty confident I am not much of a fan of phens in general and greatly prefer trypts.

All of the 2c's IMO feel very similar to each other. (Psychedlics all create a pretty similar experience anyway.) It's been a LONG time but I remember 2ct7 created the most powerful and fun experience. I only tried it once outside of this 2ct2/2ct7 mixture that was "created" accidently. I took a half/half combo of those 2 drugs about 5 times and considered it decent enough to take. I used 2c-e more than any of them and can say that I always did enjoy that. I tried 2c-b about 5 times and it also was always a pretty good one. I have taken 2c-c (I believe) twice and enjoyed both of those trips, although they were pretty mild.

Some of the 2c's I took years after I had already grown tired of tripping and simply didn't have a very good time on any of them so I may not be *that* qualified to answer. Those include 2c-i, 2ct4, and 2ct21 and found all of them to be pretty dull.

So I'd rate them in this order:
2ct7
2ce
2cb
2cc
the rest

Even after saying all that about not really liking phens or even tripping, really, I would still take 2c-d,n,p if given the chance.

I also noticed 2c-g wasn't up there. I got ahold of that one a long time ago and never did take it. While there was a time when I would have taken it without looking back, the thought of tripping 30 hours actually scares the hell out of me at this point in my life.

Anyway, give me LSD, 4-ace-dipt, or DiPT anyday. Or the really ridiculous ones like DMT or DPT. There is something about the fast onset that only tryptamines give. Those are the only 5 I think I would actively try to find anymore, exluding any psychedelic I haven't done. I should also note that I prefer (and always have) dissociatives over psychedelics.

I enjoyed 2c-i in moderate doses and 2c-t-21 all the way.

Neither can compare to 2c-e though. 2c-t-4 was more like a disassociative in nature, than like a phen. Did you have trouble sleeping for extended peroids for hours after returning to baseline??

 

[e1evene1even]

I voted for 2C-T-2, not because its is the best in the list, but the best I have tried so far, it reminds me a lot of mescaline, although not as good. It was also the first Phen (other than MDA/MDMA) I ever tried. The only other 2C-I have tried so far is 2C-I.

Throughout last winter when those were the only two psychedelics I had available I used 2C-T-2 about 2-3 times per month for perhaps 5 months. I found it a great tool. I never went much above 15mg, but I feel there is much more potential depth at higher doses. I never had any of the side effects others have described, perhaps a little sedation, nausea, slight body load, but it never got in the way. If I had went up to 25-30mg I could see the potential for a very powerful trip, but with more physical discomfort.

2C-I on the other hand I mostly found to be an inferior version of 2C-T-2. At low doses (10-15mg) it was pretty bland, and lacked the visuals of 2C-T2 at the same dose. I also got headaches on the descent. Since then I have found 2C-I starts to shine around 20mg. It leaves your ego fully in tact and seems easy to control. It would be a good introduction to psychedelics for the timid (I would think 2C-B would be even better). Someone I know had recklessly high (in my opinion) dose of 2C-I and said it was extremely powerful, long lasting and she had HPPD for quite a while afterwards. I have no idea of the dose and neither does she, but it was a full capsule so I would say at least 100mg, likely more.

If I were to try all the 2C's I would very likely choose 2C-E and 2C-B as my favorites.

 

[Xorkoth]

The only other 2C-I have tried so far is 2C-I

That's shocking!!



Anyway, I also found great depth and a really wonderful and powerful psychotherapeutic tool in 2C-T-2. In fact, I consider it largely responsible for removing my 3-year depression a while back, simply because it allowed me to view my mental loops and patterns from an objective, removed standpoint, which allowed me to see how to escape my neuroses and depression.

However, I got such a nasty body load on it that I stopped taking it after 4 tries and never used it again. Nowadays my body loads are insignificant or completely absent, though, so I may try again sometime, as I found the mental effects very useful and beautiful.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

2C-G isn't up there, but it is not really a "2C" except in name. With having 5 things attached to the benzene instead of the usual 4, it warrents being its own new family.

 

[egor]

2C-G isn't up there, but it is not really a "2C" except in name. With having 5 things attached to the benzene instead of the usual 4, it warrents being its own new family.

Let us know if you ever get around to sampling that one. I have been intrigued by it for a long time, but the duration is just too extreme for me.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

I doubt I ever will to be honest of you. Any psychedelic that is longer than 8-12 hours gets a back seat. Of those that do last that long...DOM, DOC, a-MT, and 2C-P will take precedence. After those, maybe I'll get to it but 30 hours is just a little long for me also.

 

[Xorkoth]

If I had some I would certainly sample it. Unfortunately, at no point was I aware of it being available.

But I am definitely more excited about DOM, DOB, and 2C-P. I'm pretty afraid of 2C-P, though.

 

[egor]

^^ 2c-p has my interest, but it is not worth the cost of a custom synth.

 

[nofx1422]

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[egor]

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[Helios.]

2C-(CCl3) ?

 

[hugo24]

That will destroy the rest of your brain helios...

 

[Helios.]

touche, mon frere

DDT is non-toxic.

 

[hugo24]

DDT has the Trichloromethyl on an alkyl,not on the aromat.

 

[Helios.]

2c-pecan.