Yeah real mdma make you hot and sweaty like crazy. Meh makes you cold and shivery.
I'm not so sure its one or the other, IMO it might be more accurate to say good MDMA just further increases how sensitive you become to temperature differences. The M that made me too hot inside the club is the same M that I felt like was freezing to death waiting for a cab home afterwards. Generally, it seems during the come-up and peak is when feeling too hot is common in myself and others, or maybe simply the temperature sensitivity either way is most intense at that point.
Getting hot on the comeup is one of the most stressful parts of rolling lol, makes you think you are going to become a statistic. I usually have to stand outside the crowd until my body temperature feels comfortable enough to actually rejoin my friends dancing.
Even with perfectly good MDMA, waiting for the cab in the winter/rain after a rave in sweaty n' skimpy rave attire, I've felt like I'm actually going to freeze to death in just those couple minutes
I’m not sure comedowns really can be used to gauge how magical the experience is..
When I was younger I’d get nasty comedowns too, emotionally and physically, but it’s not that my rolls were any better.
Back then I ate like shit, (we all did it seems) didn’t hydrate well, often drank with it, didn’t take antioxidants...
These days my rolls are WAY harder but I take all the necessary precautions to make sure once I comedown that it goes well. I often do use other substances like DMT in the day or two following to further negate any serotonin dip.
So I wonder if reduced comedowns are also the result of the health kick much of western society has been on in recent years compared to late 90’s/early 00’s.
Edit- Come to think of it the last time I was unable to follow a lot of my rolling rules, I got sick as hell right on comeup and spent the whole night feeling like I was freezing but really actually overheating under a blanket. I felt that comedown for months afterwards, I also felt that significantly more MDMa had been metabolized into MDA that trip cuz I was getting visuals like I’d never had on any MDxx before. (This was a batch I was VERY familiar with.)
-GC
Agreed, for the last 10 years any MDMA I've taken that tested clean of any adulterants, Meh or not has a similar "comedown" for me, or lack of one.
Opinion must be expressed by someone who was dealing with magic mdma and mehmdma. People under the age of 25 have no idea how real mdma works, so they describe mehmdma in their reports thinking that it works well
I agree you need experience with both to get any sort of perspective, but please enough with this

Either people take it enough to start realizing a difference or they don't, I'm still not entirely convinced this issue has much to do with who-had-what-when
if you say they're too young to know, they're just gonna say you're too old to remember, and we're back in that stalemate