is it only possible to be open-minded if one agrees with you?
it's not possible to have an open mind and come to a different conclusion?
alasdair
it most certainly is. That was kinda my point even. Im very tired right now, I dont have the energy to repeat my first post but with different words.. it can very well be my fault, not making myself understood I mean. Like I said. all Ive read from people here that criticize the Tates (there's 18 pages I havent read all of them) are basically copy-paste opinions. It's easy af to tell 95% (if not all) of these people never took time to look into the Tates and more importantly the situation they are in right now. I am struggling to not go of and write a 6 page essay about this situation and a phenomena so many people seem to be blind to. Seems that as soon as you start speaking "the truth" about how society is being run and controlled, you immediately get "cancelled". They start labeling you racist, rapist, pedophile, "toxic" and apparently some kind of HUGE danger to society, because in this case, Tate inspired some kids / young men to get their shit together, be healthy, aim for success and god forbid work out a little so you mentally and physically, eventually will be able to (at least try your absolute best to) defend your future family etc...
ah no, fuck no I dont have the energy and time for this. Im to tired and theres is simply to much to cover and explain and frankly, english is not my first language and my brain is about to explode from trying to make any sense here..
I would simply LOVE to sit down with some of the people parroting for ex CNN's propaganda, and the people parroting the people that are parroting the propaganda and just watch some interviews, podcasts or long format, UNCUT content that clearly show or "prove" if u will that EVERYTHING they use to paint him as the devil are just clips taken WAAY out of context. And then go over claim by claim, lie by lie and then have a discussion about how dangerous "group think" can be. THEN see how many people still hate him.
The worst you can say about him is that he made some "edgy" jokes and rants that I personally CLEARLY understand is an attempt to be funny, an act to get attention he so frikkin clearly got.
I will leave with this. I am not a Tate fanboy. I find all of these 13-20 year olds yelling "TOP-G!" to be incredibly cringe. However I will admit I think the man is very funny at times and when he is serious I often get this kind of "finally, someone is brave enough to talk about these things" feeling, and is not afraid to speak his opinion, that is not afraid of the cancel mob.
If yall do these things I mentioned, do some own, real research that does not come from a tiktok clip or vice article. And still hold the same exact opinion about the man you had before. I cant do anything else than 100% respect your opinion but at the same time feel a little frustrated. And honestly feel kinda (well, extra) worried about the future, regarding how immune some people are to facts. Im not talking about the allegations and court stuff that has not yet been proven total bullshit OR whatever sentence they might get, just the facts/truths/proven lies that are widely available on youtube if u just decide to watch long form content.
But to answer your questions again, Yes. IF u do real research and come to YOUR OWN conclusion, whatever it might be. I respect it and lol, of course u can be open minded while not agreeing with me. that is literally a part of being open minded. If u blindly agree with me you are slave/puppet minded. going of the posts i read here; majority of these people sound like the opposite of open minded.
PS. when the whole Tekashi69 snitching/racketeering court stuff was happening I took a DEEP DIVE into everything regarding THAT case as well. That does not mean I am a super-fan of sixnine (he made some banger gym/sit at home doing speed with 5 other dudes going crazy - songs tho, lets be real)
Oh, BTW ( all these different forums, with different rules ) .. am I allowed to post youtube links?