In my opinion, MDMA has a lot medical value and I hear methylone also has some. However, you hardly ever hear of "kid takes pure mdma and freaks out!" Even when it was in its heyday in terms of being legal, as far as my knowledge goes, I think that bath salt stimulants have a far worse reputation. A mod recently told me about a british official saying that taking mdma is less dangerous than riding a horse.
A main point-why take MPDV when there are much better substitutes available? I mean, what's the point in that besides the legal aspect? You hear a lot of stories about people acting very, very strangely under their influence. I just think that if the illegal counterparts were readily available/pure, there would be a lot less demand for the synthetics.
We don't really get many (as far as I know) threads on here talking about someone who freaked out on pure MDMA and acted all crazy and hurt someone or themselves or had ER visits and of course tachyardia/paranoia. The same can't really be said about the bath salts.
Of course, MDMA isn't a walk in the park when abused either, I will admit that.
@LadyCodone, out of curiosity, why was that guy tazed?