Opioids Ultimate Poppy Pod/Seed Tea Mega Merged Thread III

[QuasiStoned]

Yeh I hate tapering I always get hot flashes no matter how slow I go it seems. I get hot flashes when I don't taper lol. Usually right before my next dose it sucks.
I use between 50-70gms a day, prob around 10-14 pods I think.
Its 4am as I write this.
But I tried once by tapering got to day 7 and failed. Tried again with tramadol plus tapering and wound up taking too many tramadol. I got to day 3 and got no where. Third time I made it one day lol. I gave up on my strategy I think. Fourth time I'm gonna try subs and 2 weeks dihydro after the subs taper (shorter half life for sub wds and I heard dihydro wds are a joke). We'll see how it goes! And me and you are exactly alike its scary lol, def got to get clean together at some point I hate pods low dose or highdose they kill my motivation to have a life.

Yeah, it's really all about self control and it seems that us addicts tend to have very little of this particular trait Sometimes I get hot flashes when I'm tapering but it's usually my skin flushing after I take my dose (histamine release, perhaps?). For me, my problem is constant cold sensations - goosebumps, shivering, etc. I'm a thin built man and it's winter here in PA so I would be susceptible to the cold regardless of opiate withdrawal, but WD definitely makes it suck 10x worse When I do a careful taper, it really eliminates the worst of the symptoms though. I usually spend about half of my day in a very light stage of opiate withdrawal - just yawning and stretching, little else. The other half of the day is spent comfortable.

Anyway, I got high last night and didn't fall asleep until 7:30 AM!! The rest of the night was spent intermittently nodding off in a chair, not really sleeping. Poppy tea definitely can seem to push down your sleep cycle.

 

[chitowndown]

pods are fun, what do yall use to ease the taste?

 

[P0TH3AD]

I add Kool aide single serving packets per every 10 fl oz of tea. They are intended for 16 fl oz of water but the kool aide needs to be strong to mask it but it damn sure covers up the flavor really good with a slight bitter flavor in the background. The faster you drink it the less bad it is.

BTW, Does anybody know the average weight in grams that mammoth pods typically weigh.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^I also find lots of those bottled water flavor packets are good... I usually used the propel or gatorade ones or the energy drink ones. When I made tea I always used about 2oz of water per pod and generally only used 2-3 pods.

Eventually I started consuming the pods whole to cut time (and quickly realized how much more efficient it is) and with that my preferred method is chocolate milk. The thickness helps mask the texture (helps, its still sandy) and the chocolate really helps mask the taste. I find the ground pods do not *taste* nearly as strong or bitter as the tea however the texture can be bad. Its REALLY nasty consuming the pod grounds in straight water or lightly flavored beverages but as long as you get it down quickly (which with only a couple pods is easy) its not too bad.

 

[Bojangles69]

I love the taste are you kidding!
When I look at the dark reddish brown liquid all I'm thinking really is "mmm.. morphine", its only slightly pungent and bitter, doesn't taste to far from normal teas really imo.

Just remember your drinking morphine its not meant to taste great, its an acquired flavor.

 

[QuasiStoned]

I love the taste are you kidding!
When I look at the dark reddish brown liquid all I'm thinking really is "mmm.. morphine", its only slightly pungent and bitter, doesn't taste to far from normal teas really imo.

lol, it can be an acquired taste for sure. I don't know to say that I really *like* it, but it doesn't phase me anymore, that's for sure. When you HAVE to drink it every day or face hellish withdrawals it makes drinking some bitter tea seem quite easy.

I have a tendency to add a lot of sugar to mine. You can pinch your nose and take big gulps if you really find it gross. Also, breathing through your mouth helps (breathing through your nose can make you more aware of the flavor).

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^I agree... after drinking the tea for some time I didn't LIKE the taste, but could down it with no problem. My problem, as mentioned above, consuming them whole is the texture. In yogurt/pudding its not too bad, but in liquids it makes me gag.

 

[Where Wolf?]

I've been using pods once-twice a week, over the past few months, to soothe a broken heart. As far as I can tell, lemon juice makes no difference whatsoever, and the few times I've used calcium carbonate, likewise, it's done nothing.

I've also stopped using diphenhydramine to potentiate - though I do like the nods it brings, I find it adds too much sedation the next day. Must get around to trying DXM as a potentiator, though it's hard to get in unadulterated form in the UK.

Recently, to cut down on the volume of noxious fluid, I've been using the following procedure with Hen & chicks:

Grind pods in blender.
Steep in cold water in a French press for 20mins.
Add 2 cups warm water.
Steep for 20 minutes.
Transfer tea to a roasting tin, and place on top shelf of a hot oven, with the door OPEN and a fan blowing across, to prevent boiling/loss of alkaloids. Leave pod grinds in press, add cold water and steep for 12-24 hours before a second brew.

After 2 hours in the oven, there's about half a cup of fluid to gulp, which greatly reduces nausea and upchucking. One of these days I might just get around to trying my hand at making pod putty - if I can plan far enough ahead.

To anyone trying Hen & Chicks for the first time - proceed with caution. Little fuckers are POTENT - I got impatient when I first tried them, made a second brew too quickly and borderline OD'd. If you don't respect the poppy, one way or another, she'll beat the shit out of you.

 

[i are spectre]

haha yes, respect the poppy, and dont be a slave like i was for months. the best method to make tea was this:

crush up pods and remove seeds (i think they taste bitter and dont like them)
place them in a coffee/spice grinder and grind the shit out of it to dust
add to small a amount of water in a pot on the stove
bring to boil and -immediately- remove from heat and -cover- for 20-30min
drink and enjoy

dont be a slave, its no fun breaking free
-spectre

 

[Pegasus]

Do you guys find that steeping for long periods of time helps substantially? I pretty much just mix mine with steaming water and cover for like 10 minutes, stirring once or twice. I take the grounds and do a second wash, but the liquid is much more clear this time. It seems to work pretty well for me, but I haven't really tried anything more complex so I'm looking for comments, comparisons, etc.

 

[Where Wolf?]

Do you guys find that steeping for long periods of time helps substantially? I pretty much just mix mine with steaming water and cover for like 10 minutes, stirring once or twice. I take the grounds and do a second wash, but the liquid is much more clear this time. It seems to work pretty well for me, but I haven't really tried anything more complex so I'm looking for comments, comparisons, etc.

I find that steeping the pod grinds in cold water before adding any hot generally gets a better yield. In terms of second wash, it seems to be most efficient to let the grinds sit in cold water for a LONG time before making a second brew: up to 24 hours. You get a much darker 2nd brew that time.

Today's brew, made from Hen & Chicks, came out almost black.

Mixed results from the putty - think I lost some overall alkaloid content, but damn it was easy to swallow. There's some effect from 'smoking' it in a vaporiser pipe, though it's slow going.

Time for a ten-day break, methinks, to lower that tolerance.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

Do you guys find that steeping for long periods of time helps substantially? I pretty much just mix mine with steaming water and cover for like 10 minutes, stirring once or twice. I take the grounds and do a second wash, but the liquid is much more clear this time. It seems to work pretty well for me, but I haven't really tried anything more complex so I'm looking for comments, comparisons, etc.

I have tried a number of different methods and when I make tea I do essentially the same thing you do... I never found enough benefit to justify these long, involved processes.

Maybe I'm just lazy though? Normally I don't bother with the tea and just consume the grounds because it cuts the prep time in half and is more efficient.

 

[Pegasus]

^I'm thinking about consuming some in the near future. I guess it's about time to get a coffee grinder!

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^Coffee grinders are so important to speed and efficacy of the process. My grinder broke and I'm using a blender and it takes longer, is more difficult to clean up and doesn't grind as fine so its very annoying. I haven't been using poppies regularly for about 6 months (which followed about 18 months of daily use) so I didn't bother to get another grinder, but I do highly recommend them.

 

[QuasiStoned]

^^^
I always used a blender, I've never even used a coffee grinder before. My 1st blender was a cheap Walmart one (the cheapest available actually, lol) and it lasted me over a year of grinding up pods before it broke down. When that one broke I upgraded to a slightly stronger blender and it can turn 12 medium - large pods into a powder in 15 - 20 seconds :D

Do you guys find that steeping for long periods of time helps substantially? I pretty much just mix mine with steaming water and cover for like 10 minutes, stirring once or twice. I take the grounds and do a second wash, but the liquid is much more clear this time. It seems to work pretty well for me, but I haven't really tried anything more complex so I'm looking for comments, comparisons, etc.

My method has always been to get the water to just under a boil, add the pod grounds and stir it for a minute or two. Then I let it sit for maybe another 10 minutes (sometimes a bit longer) on med-low heat. Come back and strain out the grounds and then do a second rewash just letting the grounds soak on the stove in hot water for maybe another 10 minutes.

When you get some of those high quality pods that we were talking about you will probably find that your 2nd rewash still comes out pretty dark. My first wash is black like coffee and my 2nd is usually a dark shade of brown.

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

Do you guys find that steeping for long periods of time helps substantially? I pretty much just mix mine with steaming water and cover for like 10 minutes, stirring once or twice. I take the grounds and do a second wash, but the liquid is much more clear this time. It seems to work pretty well for me, but I haven't really tried anything more complex so I'm looking for comments, comparisons, etc.

Yup. I'd do hotter than steaming water though, more boil the water, throw the grounds in, turn down heat to 3-5 (low medium-medium) let sit for as you say, 110 minutes or a bit longer. Depending on the quantity, straining it in smaller amounts is easier to squeeze the hell out of it, and may result in a better extraction. Obviously this applies more to larger quantities.

Something like this would be awesome for pods, and any other 'creative' things you could think of.

(if you don't know you throw a intert magnetic stick in the pyrex glass and it stirs it for you, constantly, while heating it. You could also set it right below the temperature in which morphine is likely to become unstable)

http://www.amazon.com/VWR®-Dyla-DualTM-Hot-Plate-Stirrer/dp/B001BLQQ6Y


Large 16.5 cm (61/2") Diameter Cast Aluminum Top Plate Stirs from 100 to 1600 rpm Heats up to 400°C (752°F) 1500 mL Capacity 120V, 50/60Hz, 10A, 575W The economical and durable Dyla-Dual hot plate stirrer is ideal for general heating and stirring. A large cast aluminum top plate provides an even heating surface. Electronic speed control and bimetallic thermostat deliver reliable and repeatable results. Powerful heater reaches maximum temperature in minutes. Large magnet provides strong magnetic coupling to the spin bar. Indicator lights illuminate when unit is on.

 

[Where Wolf?]

Hypothetically speaking, if one were to prepare pod tea, then evap off most of the water, making puuty - and mid-process, a white sediment forms atop the solution, is that M-base? Think I read somewhere it might be...

 

[soundsystem00]

How potent is Poppy Pod Tea? In comparison to say, "Hydrocodone" or is it more like "Heroin".

If you are a junky would poppy pod tea give you any kind of nod? If so, is it a lot more expensive than heroin to get the same effect?

I was telling a friend about it and how it was legal and everything (for now) and he didn't beleive me.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^ First off, it is not technically legal right now, its just easily accessible. The pods contain scheduled drugs that are illegal to possess however these laws have not been enforced for the most part (so its de jure illegal and de facto legal).

Next, the alkaloid that is most abundant and accounts for the vast majority of the effects of poppy pod tea is morphine so tea is as potent as morphine is. The alkaloid content of pods and preparation techniques can vary quite a bit so making exact comparisons is difficult.

When I started using pods, I was getting ~6'' pods (think between the size of a golf ball and tennis ball) and making tea from 2 of the pods FOR ME was pretty close to taking about 30mg of hydrocodone and then 30mg again 4 hours later... it was like the potency of 30mg of hydrocodone (ROUGHLY, its hard to guage) but lasted more than twice as long.

I was only using 2 large pods at this time so obviously much larger doses can be used. I have heard from many current and former heroin or other IV opiate users that large doses certainly can produce a nod. The thing is that 1.) with large doses you'd have to consume a lot of nasty tea or nasty grounds and 2.) since its used orally it won't produce the instant rush that IV/snorting/smoking other opiates will.

lastly, we can't exactly discuss prices outside of the price thread. Without going into specifics, when I was regularly using poppy tea and I ran out and went and picked up heroin, I snorted the heroin and it cost me SUBSTANTIALLY more for the same effect.

 

[poppyflower]

Gaining weight?

Was wondering if anyone out there that drinking PST awhile had noticed themselves gaining weight? I've been doing PST about 1 year and have gained about 15 lbs! I looked up fat in poppy seeds and it says 14 g. of fat in 3 tablespoons of seeds. Holy shit!! If I'm taking in all that fat, no wonder I'm gaining. I'm thinking it from the oil in the seeds. So when making PST, does that fat transfer into the liquid??? I did search forums for this, but nothing about calories came up.