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Opioids Ultimate Poppy Pod/Seed Tea Mega Merged Thread III

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Ohayou said:
Maybe you should try warm water instead, and use more seeds, if you can get them cheaper that is...
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With seeds cold water is best. Also, a Fast wash, like under 5 minutes of vigorous shaking is very effective while avoiding the unwanted stuff inside the seeds. You'll get much cleaner and neutral tasting liquid to drink.

Warn and especially hot water will leach disgusting tasting oils and proteins out of the seeds and absorb some of the water much quicker. Makes the liquid milky and very hard to drink.
 
enzymex said:
With seeds cold water is best. Also, a Fast wash, like under 5 minutes of vigorous shaking is very effective while avoiding the unwanted stuff inside the seeds. You'll get much cleaner and neutral tasting liquid to drink.

Warn and especially hot water will leach disgusting tasting oils and proteins out of the seeds and absorb some of the water much quicker. Makes the liquid milky and very hard to drink.
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Oh, okay, nevermind then. :p
 
I didnt understand the last part with the latex... but whatever... i rewashed the next day... got a very mild effect, lasted couple hours only... this seems fine, but i think for 1 pound my high should have been better, probably it was prewashed seeds.. ill find better batch next time.
 
The goods are on the outside of the seeds and wash off very easily. It should only take a few minutes max imo, with vigorous shaking.

Using luke warm water helps, but if it gets too hot you'll end up with too much seed oil with your opium water mixture, which doesn't get you high, just nausious and fat.

You don't even have to use warm water, but if you're in a rush it speeds up the process from 3-5 minutes to maybe 2 minutes.

-Not rocket science.
 
i do it with cold (refrigerated) grapefruit juice and two washes of cold tap water through a metal sieve.
takes 3-5 minutes max. and yes, besides some brisk agitation (shake it!) it doesn't need any other help.
the desired alkaloids are water soluble.
 
How can I know if the seeds I'm using are washed or not? And if they are "Washed" How much of the alkaloids gets removed, is it a very large amount or slightly noticable... I'm on my second attempt, local groceries sell only 58g pouches, last time was 2.17$ Each pouch, now i found them for 99c so i got 8 this time... for a whooping 464g I added 500ml Cold tap water + 100ml Lemon Juice (The final product tasted basically only lemon juice, didnt even need to wash out bad taste) And I will rewash in like 30 minutes (just finished gulping it)

Also, what's best, taking grapefruit juice 30 min prior, empty stomach, while eating?

Takes me about 45 min to 1h to start feeling it. And it's definately the feeling of morphine, but seems alot less than with pharms.

I feer asking if the seeds are washed or not will give out the reason i'm using them... I'll try flower shops tomorrow, as they are all closed at this hour a sunday, I'll ask for pods tho for "decoration" :P

I'm so desperate for this feeling id indulge myself my 4th kidney stone, which would be my first of not getting by "natural" causes... Too bad I had no clue that when I could get rx for dilaudid was good time to ask for it :| But on the bright side, I have a med record of a non-abusing medication drug user

How would someone who already had 3 normal kidney stone indulge himself a 4th one?


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Any answer would be appreciated, ugggg, i have one of the worse stomach ache ever... feels like when i have alot of air in my belly and it goes away when i do one huge burp, but this time the burp doesn't come, i dont think its air, it just hurts like hell, if it because too much lemon juice?
 
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Benzopiates said:
How can I know if the seeds I'm using are washed or not? And if they are "Washed" How much of the alkaloids gets removed, is it a very large amount or slightly noticable... I'm on my second attempt, local groceries sell only 58g pouches, last time was 2.17$ Each pouch, now i found them for 99c so i got 8 this time... for a whooping 464g I added 500ml Cold tap water + 100ml Lemon Juice (The final product tasted basically only lemon juice, didnt even need to wash out bad taste) And I will rewash in like 30 minutes (just finished gulping it)

Also, what's best, taking grapefruit juice 30 min prior, empty stomach, while eating?

Takes me about 45 min to 1h to start feeling it. And it's definately the feeling of morphine, but seems alot less than with pharms.

I feer asking if the seeds are washed or not will give out the reason i'm using them... I'll try flower shops tomorrow, as they are all closed at this hour a sunday, I'll ask for pods tho for "decoration" :P

I'm so desperate for this feeling id indulge myself my 4th kidney stone, which would be my first of not getting by "natural" causes... Too bad I had no clue that when I could get rx for dilaudid was good time to ask for it :| But on the bright side, I have a med record of a non-abusing medication drug user

How would someone who already had 3 normal kidney stone indulge himself a 4th one?


EDIT :

Any answer would be appreciated, ugggg, i have one of the worse stomach ache ever... feels like when i have alot of air in my belly and it goes away when i do one huge burp, but this time the burp doesn't come, i dont think its air, it just hurts like hell, if it because too much lemon juice?
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Usually gray-blue clean looking seeds are well washed. What you want is the dark and dirty looking ones. Navy blue or very dark gray - almost black. Good sign if the seeds clump little bit together when you slowly roll the can/bag in your hand. Strong smell is another good telltale sign of opium content on the seeds.

Trying to find a bulk source would be best option for price and potency. Place that sells them by a kilo.
 
Do they wash the seeds specially to remove alkaloids or its just for them to be "clean" ?

Also, when they do wash, how much of the coating alkaloids gets removed, would you still have an effect on washed seeds or it would be so low you wouldn't feel it.

Cuz I'm definately feeling something out of 464g but it's not as strong as id recall 10mg morphine to be.... altho I might be wrong cuz with pharms you get the rush, i can DEFINATELY tell its morphine sensation, my favorite !

I Hope pods feel the same but stronger, i'll try them soon
 
Poppy seed tea - Color vs Strenght

Ok so, just to lay the table on this thread, I have to say that I am used to snorting and IVing opiates, specially morphine/dilaudid, so I know what kind of feeling you get from the morphine high.

I recently tried making poppy seed tea bough from my supermarket, and I was skeptical about the effectiveness of it, It DID feel like morphine a bit, but I wasn't sure if it was a strong placebo effect or if it was the real thing. As I was preparing my 3rd tea, I took some snapshots to post here and show you guys the color of the seeds I'm buying and ask you more common to poppy seeds if the color seems good or not.

So here is the images from the 3rd time I bough seeds.

Overview
Closer overview
Pouch Information (Poppy seeds 58g)
Closer look on one of the bag
Closer look #2 on same bag

They seemed pretty much the same to me, I saw there was SOME of the seeds that where pale blue but not all of them, alot of them were dark blue or black. Since I haven't seen any other batch to compare them to, do you guys think it's a rinced batch or you think it's a good one (unrinced)

I used this method to make the tea

Pour 464g of seeds in an empty 2L Coke bottle; (8*58g)
Mix with 450ml of cold tap water;
Shake vigourously for 2 minutes;
Let the solution rest for 1 minute;
Shake vigourously for 1 minute;
Filter using a clean white sock;
Add some lemon juice and drink.

And I had drank 1L of grapefruit juice about 30-45 min prior to drinking the tea.

I barely felt anything at all, and from the same supermarket, I had done on my second attempt 7*58g and I felt it alot stronger than this.
For some weird reason, I felt a bit euphoric and had the sense that I was living a small morphine high 6 hours after drinking it... and it didnt last long. Usually the tea high lasts for 6+ hours.

So do you think those seeds seems good?
And if they are rinced, how much of the alkaloids do I lose, is it still enough to get high or it's a waste?
 
Poppy pods - Is there many kinds; how do I know if this pod is good?

Recently I used google maps to locate every flower sellers in my range and phoned them all to ask if they had dried poppy pods to sell, I found one flower seller near me who was selling it, but unfortunately, she was selling mostly for flower arrangements and most of them were painted but I really wanted to try it so I said fuck it and I bough all she had. Around 20 pods of different size, 16 of them being painted in pink and 4 of them unpainted.

I took snapshots of one pod that was unpainted with my cellphone. Here is what it looked like :

Picture #1
Picture #2
Picture #3

Then I used a scissor to cut the pod in half and removed the seeds from inside, it looked like this :

Picture #1
Picture #2
Picture #3

So... what do you guys think. Does this pod seems like it's a good one from the papver somniferium or its some bad shit?

Also, if some of the pods were painted in pink, do you think it makes them unedible, or we can still make tea from it?

I'll post the method I used to make the tea (2 batches) Tomorrow cuz it's pretty late here. (With images)
 
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yep, they're the ones.
i wouldn't advise you eat the painted ones (could cause all kinds of harm) but maybe if you can get all of the paint off.
the 4 unpainted ones could constitute a dose, but unless you can sandpaper the whole top layer off of the painted ones, i'd say they're probably useless.
 
in regard to your question at the end, the only way to find out is to try it.
we can't tell you how much is lost by rinsing the seeds, and there is no verifiable way to tell.
the rule of thumb (from my point of view) is that the more reliable seeds are consistently coloured, and the lighter grey they are - or the more variation in seed colour - the weaker they are likely to be.
the best seeds are usually grey to dark grey (almost black). sometimes you find sticky looking seeds that clump together - when i find these, i buy 'em.
 
Well, my first batch I used the 4 unpainted ones, and I even used the seeds from inside them. Barely felt anything at all, and the pods are said to be reliable. Hence why I was wondering if thoses were the good ones. One florist told me there was many kinds of poppy pods, and some don't have any alkaloids in them. Is it possible that this pod was one of them?
 
The seeds look fine to me, but there is no way to actually tell if the seeds are good just by looking at a picture. It's a good sign if the seeds have a strong 'scent' and clump together slightly when you roll them around in the bag. Other than that you are on your own as far as that is concerned.

You also don't need to ruin a sock to filter the liquid. The 2 liter bottle you are using to shake them in comes with a cap which you can unscrew slightly (very slowly) until you can squeeze the bottle and liquid starts to pour out. No socks or filters required, just drain into your cup and then drink it.

Anyway I'm going to merge both of your threads together and then merge them into the poppy seed megathread where they belong.

Please post any new questions regarding seeds or pods there instead of making a new thread, thanks!
 
yeah, i get two big plastic bowls and a metal mesh strainer.
i chuck the seeds in one bowl, pour grapefruit juice on them, and stir like crazy for 30 seconds.
i then tip the seeds into the strainer, and catch the juice in the second bowl beneath. i then pour cold water on the seeds, stir again and strain again. i do it one more time with the water, then drink.

same principles apply - but seriously, the faster and more vigorously you make PST the better. the seeds soak up the tea otherwise, and you lose a bunch and it tastes way worse. letting it sit really fucks it up. you only want to extract the substances stuck on the very outside of the seeds, not the bad tasting oils that get released if you let them hydrate.

for poppy pod tea is a little different. the alkaloids are INSIDE the pod material.
if you have access to a blender or a food processor, the best thing to do is to grind up the pods into a powder. then make tea out of it, or like i do - wash down the pod grinds with grapefruit juice. that way you lose nothing in extraction.

as for grapefruit juice - i've read that it's better to take it a while before dosing with opiates for potentiation, but i use it for taste as much as anything else, maybe a slight aim to potentiate it too.

good luck, be safe and respect the power of the poppy.
 
spacejunk said:
same principles apply - but seriously, the faster and more vigorously you make PST the better. the seeds soak up the tea otherwise, and you lose a bunch and it tastes way worse. letting it sit really fucks it up. you only want to extract the substances stuck on the very outside of the seeds, not the bad tasting oils that get released if you let them hydrate.
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^This! Seriously. This is important and very good advice. You want to quickly wash the seeds. The more you shake it the better but it is critical not to let the seeds sit. The clock starts ticking as soon as you put the water on the seeds. If you're going to do more than one wash you need to do them back to back for best results. What I usually do is drain the resulting liquid from the two washes into the same glass and drink it like that.
 
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