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tv: The Ashlee Simpson Show

I disagree its hurting "legitimacy" of music. Sorry.

There is plenty of great music out there if you want to find it. Just because it all doesnt get played on Mtv doesnt mean its not there. THIS is the type of music that is marketed to make the big money. Sorry..but thats how the pop industry works. Ashlee isnt personally hurting anyone, shes just a kid whos naturally running with whats been given to her, just as most people would who were born into those circumstances. I am not IGNORING anyones point, I understand why everyone feels the way they do, I just disagree and no one seems to be able to accept that. :\

This debate will never end, we will just have to agree to disagree...
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
And I think both Jessica and Ashlee seem like ditzes..I dont care thats why I think they are funny...PEOPLE PLEASE..this shit IS FAKE..its ALL entertainment. ENTERTAINMENT..whoever said it was like pro wrestling is kinda right..whats so wrong with that is what I dont get. No one is saying this stuff is fine art.

well at least you recognize the superficiality...but the problem here is that most of ashlee's "fans" probably accept her as real and genuine, when that is obviously not the case. I don't care what her TV shows tells people to believe, but at the same time I don't like having to see a random quip once in a while about Ashlee Simpson just because she's in the mainstream when she should've been banished for her mistakes.

The difference between this and pro wrestling is practically all of pro wrestling fans know it's fake...but they appreciate the athletic skills and the amount of heart and passion those folks pour into their craft. For fans of the Ashlee marketing machine, they'll gladly excuse the truth for a distorted and ignorant view of what is supposed to be a musician. What passion and heart does a fake pop star exude? What kind of role model is she for young girls? Why are people so easy to excuse pathetic displays because they find her comical? Once you cross that road you no longer consider her a musician...but rather a TV comedian who uses pop music as her background...which would put her maybe just a notch above the old TV show "California Dreams". ;)
 
^You loved that show. :p;)

Originally posted by MynameisnotDeja
I disagree its hurting "legitimacy" of music. Sorry.

There is plenty of great music out there if you want to find it. Just because it all doesnt get played on Mtv doesnt mean its not there. THIS is the type of music that is marketed to make the big money. Sorry..but thats how the pop industry works. Ashlee isnt personally hurting anyone, shes just a kid whos naturally running with whats been given to her, just as most people would who were born into those circumstances. I am not IGNORING anyones point, I understand why everyone feels the way they do, I just disagree and no one seems to be able to accept that. :\

This debate will never end, we will just have to agree to disagree...


Maybe that is how the pop industry works, but that doesn't mean it should be that way! Do you think it's ok that that MTV and radio pander to the lowest common denominator? Do think it's ok that because Clear Channel communications owns the majority of radio stations in this country they all play the same shit every day? Do you think it's ok that radio stations give the illusion of a DJ pouring through records to bring you the hot shit, when in reality they're just playing what they are getting paid to play via payola?

Maybe Ashlee isn't hurting anyone, but she's just as bad as all the rest for not having enough personal integrity to realize that she has absolutely no business being involved in singing anywhere. This is hurting the legitimacy of music despite whatever you may think. Why should a great band be required to play by a label's rules just to get their material heard? How many bands on the radio or MTV or VH1 or whatever are memorable enough to be around for the next ten years? I'd say the ratio is severely lopsided. Do you think anyone will know or even give a fuck who Ashlee is in ten years? Fuck no.

You're right, there is a ton of good music out today, you just have to look for it. That shouldn't be the case, however. If everyone would stop gobbling up every new flavor of the month that comes down the pike things would be a lot different. Thank fucking god that P2P is going to deal the death blow to the record labels unless they change the way they operate. I can only look forward to a future without Ashlee Simpson or anyone like her.
 
Actually, it does, because in this case, you are hurting the people that deserve it! Don't give them a penny for this stuff!

Any quality band can use P2P to their advantage.
 
I encourage you deja to copy her cd as many times as you can and give away free copies (or charge your own fee) to anyone who is interested in torturing themselves.
 
On the kitchen on the floor!

Go MynameisnotDeja! Go Go

You're a mod now!

Go Go Go!!

:D %)
 
^ Speak for yourself...

Why wouldn't I drive around acting like a complete git?

InFUCKINGtegrity...

So feel free to dehumanise yourself and the rest of the MTV generation and pigeon hole you and them as mindless fuckheads.

But make sure your blanket statement doesn't cover all of us. Because some of us like to think...

I am not fucking like you.

It annoys the hell out of me when people go around saying that everyone has a price. And that if we were in their shoes we would be just like them.

It's not true. Maybe it is true for the people who like to say this because they realise they are just as stupid as the celebrities they adore, just as willing to sell their (metaphorical) souls. So if it makes you feel better to imagine that we are all as shallow and intellectually useless as you, go ahead and think it...

But you're wrong.

whoa cowboy! no need to get so defense.. I was just stating my opinion like everyone else.. never acused you personally of being like that.. so need to be a big meany.

And if that's how you feel then good, I'm glad that you are a better person than I, but your not rich and famous. So, how do you know how you would act?!

Why wouldn't I drive around acting like a complete git?

*scratches head*
 
frostyangel said:
whoa cowboy! no need to get so defense.. I was just stating my opinion like everyone else.. never acused you personally of being like that.. so need to be a big meany.

And if that's how you feel then good, I'm glad that you are a better person than I, but your not rich and famous. So, how do you know how you would act?!



*scratches head*

I agree with you on the whole there's no need for judgement of people based on what they listen to... but I know I wouldn't do what she does to be rich and famous. I can understand how people in situations where their life is in danger wouldn't know what they'd do but when it's conscious, clear choices.. I know I wouldn't belittle myself like Ashlee.

Sorry for the off-topic... just felt compelled to say it.
 
To me shes just having fun..with her daddy making so much money off jessica I think shes rich anyways. And yes..dont hate on people for what they listen to. Its nonsense!
 
Are you serious?

Yay for making money off the ignorance of others! 8(
 
Finder said:
Are you serious?

Yay for making money off the ignorance of others! 8(

No. Yay for making money..for doing something fun.

All I object to in this is when you guys act THIS WAY about it. LOOK- YOU JUST BASICALLY called me ignorant for liking her. Thats not cool....
 
well...it's not the most uncommon response from passionate musicians when someone says they'd love to be a fake pop star.

I don't think he was saying you're ignorant for liking her. The point is more about why you'd want to do what she does, when she's been proven to be a fraud? Doing something fun with your life is great, but not accepting the potential for scrutiny when what you say you'd like to be doing easily puts you in danger of it is a little ignorant, wouldn't you say? If you want to be a pop star, you surely could handle the anti-fans better than that. ;)
 
LapDawg said:
well...it's not the most uncommon response from passionate musicians when someone says they'd love to be a fake pop star.

I don't think he was saying you're ignorant for liking her. The point is more about why you'd want to do what she does, when she's been proven to be a fraud? Doing something fun with your life is great, but not accepting the potential for scrutiny when what you say you'd like to be doing easily puts you in danger of it is a little ignorant, wouldn't you say? If you want to be a pop star, you surely could handle the anti-fans better than that. ;)

Because shes not a fraud in my eyes. NOthing you guys say can change that. She is what she is and I like it. This debate will never end because no one seems to be able to accept my difference in opinion without trying to change it. Im no longer trying to convice you guys to think she is cool. And i never said I wanted to be a pop star. I said if I was in Ashlees shoes I would do what she does, because, WHY the HELL not? I have no desire to be famous or rich, but I wasnt born into a pop star family either.

And LOL @ captainballs.

P.S. Me and my friend laughed our asses off at the seriousness of this thread last night. And he wanted to tell you guys that he is a black metal musician, his band is his passion, hes aware he will never get signed to some big label or be on mtv, and he still likes Ashlee. :D
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
Because shes not a fraud in my eyes. NOthing you guys say can change that. She is what she is and I like it. This debate will never end because no one seems to be able to accept my difference in opinion without trying to change it. Im no longer trying to convice you guys to think she is cool. And i never said I wanted to be a pop star. I said if I was in Ashlees shoes I would do what she does, because, WHY the HELL not? I have no desire to be famous or rich, but I wasnt born into a pop star family either.

And LOL @ captainballs.

People are still arguing because being a fraud is not an opinion!
 
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