HdoubleODeezy
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^ You get brand (Consern-Etizest or Intas-Etilaam) tabs or pressed rc vendor "pellets"?
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Benzos (thienodiazepine) Etizolam Megathread V2
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Rybee
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Bought in a rush so pressed pellets :-/ Though the site did actually come highly recommended.
Looking around for Etilaam now. Prices appear to be near enough the same, surprisingly.
Scrap that, just found them cheaper.
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lolwhatzdrugs
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Why don't you people just get powder and put a gram in 100ml of PEG, 1 mg to .1ml dosed with an 1ml oral syringe. Or 100mg in 10ml for the same mg/ml. Much easier, and cheaper. I bet I got three grams of etizolam for what you would pay for less than 100 tablets.
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cba.
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I understand they're a little differently chemically, so will my etizolam usage (for recreational use) increase my tolerance to diazepam (for therapeutic use of anxiety - px'd by my Psych).
Just didn't know whether there was much crossover? If so, I value my therapeutic use of diazepam as a necessity... the etizolam, just a bit of fun, so I'd have to factor this in, for future use.
Just didn't know whether there was much crossover? If so, I value my therapeutic use of diazepam as a necessity... the etizolam, just a bit of fun, so I'd have to factor this in, for future use.
Slum Survivor
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^ it can raise your tolerance for sure. I learned by experience.
ETakes about 10-15 mins to strt kicking in. Lasts about 5 hours imo/ime. I like it a lot all accept the short duration. Its active metabolites stay active longer than the etizolam alone tho, it got only about 3 hour half life. I like it more than alprazolam in terms of effects/how it feels for sure. For comparison. Its closer to diazepam imo in terms of effects. However imo alprazolam's duration is longer. But sometimes benzos are differnt for everyone.
N e 1 see the big increase in etizest over etilaam in popularity? Screwed me up. I'm still waiting to try my first etilaam its most likely to be here tomorrow tho. So I'll be ble to compare for myself finally
Can MD be taken orally for both brands? I do enough subL with my bupe. Not that I got md's... just curious
ETakes about 10-15 mins to strt kicking in. Lasts about 5 hours imo/ime. I like it a lot all accept the short duration. Its active metabolites stay active longer than the etizolam alone tho, it got only about 3 hour half life. I like it more than alprazolam in terms of effects/how it feels for sure. For comparison. Its closer to diazepam imo in terms of effects. However imo alprazolam's duration is longer. But sometimes benzos are differnt for everyone.
N e 1 see the big increase in etizest over etilaam in popularity? Screwed me up. I'm still waiting to try my first etilaam its most likely to be here tomorrow tho. So I'll be ble to compare for myself finally
Can MD be taken orally for both brands? I do enough subL with my bupe. Not that I got md's... just curious
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lolwhatzdrugs
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You can post all in messages in one reply.
Are we talking about the Commonwealth Broadcasting Association, the The Council for British Archaeology, or the Combined Buying Association? Acronym finder suggests Can't Be Arsed?
I don't even know what the last one means, can't be asked? Don't want to bother? I thought arse=ass in US speak, can't be assed would imply to me that you are unable to be turned into a donkey.
If you don't want to bother I just don't understand, the pressed pills aren't necessarily better controlled for quantity/quality (mg as advertised) as people here seem to agree (some better some worse) and from what I've seen they're not particularly cheap.
I suppose I understand if you have the money, and you have a reliable source. But some people sell the powder pre-measured in PEG, personally I prefer to do it myself due to one time I ordered 10 mg, and the guy thought he was doing me a favor by throwing in 100mg without noting it. Luckily the guy is long gone from the scene probably due to stupid shit like that, and his non-clandestine nature. Who I use now is perfectly reliable but its still cheaper to DIY.
And yes there is cross tolerance between gabagerics, but the amount is not particularly known. Withdrawal from diazepam will be stopped with etizolam and vice versa.
Etizolam is plenty active orally just like the benzos, the only difference is onset/duration which is obviously quicker. I may misunderstand your question and you may mean "does it dissolve like the other/taste ok enough to do it sublingually" that I don't have any clue. Never seen an etiz pill in person, only for sale.
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mmm okay thanks, that's a tad annoying. I'll have to keep that in mind. Appreciate it though
1) I know.
2) I was referring to The Council for British Archaeology, obviously.
lolwhatzdrugs
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mmm okay thanks, that's a tad annoying. I'll have to keep that in mind. Appreciate it though
1) I know.
2) I was referring to The Council for British Archaeology, obviously.
1. I was joking, obviously. You used an acronym not only apparently super common for other meanings, but one distinct to your region. I wouldn't have had a clue what the hell you meant if I didn't look for a few minutes, and you didn't have your location listed as UK.
HdoubleODeezy
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I used to get the pure powder phenazepam and make solutions, but the only powder etizolam I have found isn't much cheaper mg for mg than the brand pills. I'll keep looking but am planning on getting off this soon.
On another note:
The brand pills work fine for me. I'm not one of the people saying they're "better" than vendor pressed pills 100% of the time.. but IMO they do have a higher chance to contain what mg is noted than a vendor that can put 1mg into a pill and call it a 2mg pill.
Would someone who has only tried vendor 1mg pressed or someone completely new to the substance really be able to honestly tell the difference between 1 and 2 mg though?
And even if there is said mg in the pressed vendor pill, who's to say the purity of it?
If you get brand pills from a pharmaceutical company you expect close to 99% purity of their substance.
Who knows how many corners some vendors cut to make extra money.. I mean, making money is the reason they became RC vendors to begin with right?
(^ only my opinion on the subject, not trying to argue)
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On another note:
The brand pills work fine for me. I'm not one of the people saying they're "better" than vendor pressed pills 100% of the time.. but IMO they do have a higher chance to contain what mg is noted than a vendor that can put 1mg into a pill and call it a 2mg pill.
Would someone who has only tried vendor 1mg pressed or someone completely new to the substance really be able to honestly tell the difference between 1 and 2 mg though?
And even if there is said mg in the pressed vendor pill, who's to say the purity of it?
If you get brand pills from a pharmaceutical company you expect close to 99% purity of their substance.
Who knows how many corners some vendors cut to make extra money.. I mean, making money is the reason they became RC vendors to begin with right?
(^ only my opinion on the subject, not trying to argue)
-HOOD
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Just an update, I've taken 5x1mg of the cheaper pellet Etizolams tonight which is supposedly 50mg of Diazepam, which would have me feeling nice. Would literally have no idea I'd taken any if I didn't already know.
Just shows that a lot of the bad reviews for Etizolam is down to poor sourcing. Will stick to the others from now on.
I really want to say the name of the vendor so others don't get ripped off, but it's obviously against forum rules. Just taken 10mg of genuine Diazepam... much better.
Just shows that a lot of the bad reviews for Etizolam is down to poor sourcing. Will stick to the others from now on.
I really want to say the name of the vendor so others don't get ripped off, but it's obviously against forum rules. Just taken 10mg of genuine Diazepam... much better.
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sorry ebola, i idn't realize it was sourcing as i wasn't asking for a specific website - was joshing around for discounts.
my apologies!
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So my etizolam arrived today, weighed out 18mg, dissolved into 6ml of 40% proof vodka (a process which took a while, there were floatingpieces of crystalline powder for 5 or 10 minutes).
I have a moderate - high benzo tolerance at the moment (30 - 40 of valium to get comfortable, though I can double that and still be functional).
Started with 0.5ml (which should be 1.5mg of etizolam, equipotent to 15mg of diazepam) of the solution, added to a small quantity of fruit juice and taken on an empty stomach. Waited 50 minutes and felt nothing. So I repeated the process with 1ml. Again, nothing after 30 minutes or so. At this point in time I decided to try sublingual administration. I started with 0.3ml (1mg). When I felt nothing after 15 minutes I added another 0.3ml, along with 2.5mg of diazepam because I was starting to feel a little edgy. Waited 10 minutes, washed it down. Sat and waited to try and feel something, but nothing that couldn't be accounted for by the half a valium I added in the mix.
At this stage I decided to sublingual a whole 1ml (3mg - or ostensibly). 20 minutes or so later and as I type this I feel slightly calmer than usual, but that could easily be placebo. I definitely don't feel like I took a drug which is supposed to be the equivalent to 90mg of diazepam.
Worth noting that I took 20mg of diazepam this morning (about 5 hours before the first etizolam dose). Is there any interaction between the two that might account for the ineffectiveness of the chemical? I obtained it from a source which I've only purchased from once before, but there seemed to be nothing wrong with that first purchase (although I suspect it had residual impurities, as I consumed it by vaporization and it left a ton of residue in the pipe, not something that happened with another batch of the same chemical I sampled). They even provide an alleged third party analysis, but I'm not sure I can post it here without crossing the line into linking to a source, and it's gibberish to me.
All in all I've gone through 2/3 of the solution in 3 hours, what should have been 12mg of etizolam (equipotent to 120mg of diazepam) and I'm barely feeling a thing. Not at all in line with the descriptions I've read.
Not sure what I've got on my hands here. A rip off, or just an impure product? Any thoughts on what I may have done wrong, assuming that I haven't been ripped off. Maybe I fucked up dissolving the etizolam somehow and ended up with a weak solution?
I'm also on 24mg of suboxone/day and 40mg of propranolol/day, if that's at all relevant.
I'll try dosing the powder directly next, in a few hours just to be safe.
I have a moderate - high benzo tolerance at the moment (30 - 40 of valium to get comfortable, though I can double that and still be functional).
Started with 0.5ml (which should be 1.5mg of etizolam, equipotent to 15mg of diazepam) of the solution, added to a small quantity of fruit juice and taken on an empty stomach. Waited 50 minutes and felt nothing. So I repeated the process with 1ml. Again, nothing after 30 minutes or so. At this point in time I decided to try sublingual administration. I started with 0.3ml (1mg). When I felt nothing after 15 minutes I added another 0.3ml, along with 2.5mg of diazepam because I was starting to feel a little edgy. Waited 10 minutes, washed it down. Sat and waited to try and feel something, but nothing that couldn't be accounted for by the half a valium I added in the mix.
At this stage I decided to sublingual a whole 1ml (3mg - or ostensibly). 20 minutes or so later and as I type this I feel slightly calmer than usual, but that could easily be placebo. I definitely don't feel like I took a drug which is supposed to be the equivalent to 90mg of diazepam.
Worth noting that I took 20mg of diazepam this morning (about 5 hours before the first etizolam dose). Is there any interaction between the two that might account for the ineffectiveness of the chemical? I obtained it from a source which I've only purchased from once before, but there seemed to be nothing wrong with that first purchase (although I suspect it had residual impurities, as I consumed it by vaporization and it left a ton of residue in the pipe, not something that happened with another batch of the same chemical I sampled). They even provide an alleged third party analysis, but I'm not sure I can post it here without crossing the line into linking to a source, and it's gibberish to me.
All in all I've gone through 2/3 of the solution in 3 hours, what should have been 12mg of etizolam (equipotent to 120mg of diazepam) and I'm barely feeling a thing. Not at all in line with the descriptions I've read.
Not sure what I've got on my hands here. A rip off, or just an impure product? Any thoughts on what I may have done wrong, assuming that I haven't been ripped off. Maybe I fucked up dissolving the etizolam somehow and ended up with a weak solution?
I'm also on 24mg of suboxone/day and 40mg of propranolol/day, if that's at all relevant.
I'll try dosing the powder directly next, in a few hours just to be safe.
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foolsgold
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fucked up big time on the 2mg ones lost thursday to today mixing 3g of mxp really didn't starting to feel like shit ive heard it said it hurts worse than scag can thank god ive 50mg to easy it but ive eaten 30 all ready today and i am skint for 2 weeks now will the doctors help me or just class me as seeking ?
guess i could just go to the e.r. and tell them i fractured my arm like i think i have falling up the stairs
guess i could just go to the e.r. and tell them i fractured my arm like i think i have falling up the stairs
lolwhatzdrugs
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You ate 60mg today? Your typing is pretty freaking jumbled, are you sure you're not slurring your words fucked up? If you're functional on those doses you could be in mortal danger ceasing them acutely. A doctor rejecting you as a drug seeker of benzos and not writing a diazepam script would be in malpractice territory. Opioid withdrawals are one thing, you're in no danger. Benzodiazepine withdrawals can be acutely lethal. If you run out and start feeling full on benzodiazipine cessation syndrome and climbing, go to the hospital.
Slum Survivor
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I'm sorry crankinit. That sux. Let us know how the other roa(s) turn out. If its good then maybe using a different solvent than vodka would be better. I would have used everclear for your experiment. Vodka may not be high enough to do this. Maybe u have to get some of that peg stuff. I'm always kinda skiddish about the true potency and all of etiz powder. Not that I've had any, don't know where to safely go oviously.
Either way thxfor. Letting us know how it went.
Either way thxfor. Letting us know how it went.